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    The catch is that the parking minimums are only being eliminated in a tiny swath of the rezoned area. The community -driven vision plan actually called for eliminating parking minimums in the entire rezoned area.


    Simon Phearson

    I’m not particularly knowledgeable of game theory, but this would suggest that the policy solution would need to be to reduce the expected value of the “defect” option, correct? So, basically, simply directing people not to “block the box” will never be enough – the incentives run contrary to the instruction – so what we need is real, material enforcement.

    But also – wouldn’t it be relevant, in game-theoretical terms, that this is a kind of iterated game? Or would the non-identity between players of successive iterations mean that we couldn’t analyze the game as an iterated game? Or would we allow that at least some learning can take place as between games?



    “a ton of drivers don’t understand that you shouldn’t pull into an intersection until it’s clear”

    Blocking the box is “contagious”. Let’s say A is the first one to block the box, perhaps even unintentionally (it looked like traffic was going to keep moving, and A misjudged the space…). This prevents X from getting through when X has the green. Eventually, A gets out of the way, but now X, perhaps angry but also quite rationally figures that the only way to get anywhere is to block the box himself at the first opportunity. Now B, having been blocked by X, follows the same strategy and the cycle repeats itself.

    This can be modeled in game theoretical terms as a prisoner’s dilemma. If everyone cooperates, everyone wins, but as soon as someone defects, it is only rational to defect too. Unfortunately, when everyone defects, everyone loses. Some players may choose to defect preemptively anticipating a similar move by the other player.



    In fairness to de Blasio it does seem as if he’s come to understand that affordability of rents is directly related to parking spots and that poor people, at least, don’t need and shouldn’t have them. Compare his proposals to build project housing on existing project house parking lots.

    Just a guess based on media reports but I bet he realized that while he can’t control NIMBY sentiment he can reduce anti-gentrification concerns by allotting more numerous and deeply-discounted below-market-rate units. I have no idea if 50% of units is feasible like MMV wants but it’s definitely impossible with mandatory parking.

    Also I’ll say this: though he often comes off like a pompous buffoon in media he is a very good speaker and seems intelligent in person. I think the bad reactions his meetings have had in the past, having been to one, says more about the kind of people who attend these than it does him.



    It’s really set up like a highway. Cars see that big opening ahead and just want to fly.



    I don’t understand why there’s no enforcement of cars blocking the box on Tillary Street as they cross Jay Street. I’ve told drivers with their windows down as I’ve tried to bike through there and they’ve just looked at me like I’m crazy. I think a ton of drivers don’t understand that you shouldn’t pull into an intersection until it’s clear. NYPD could sit there and ticket drivers with every signal change, but given that they don’t seem to want to hassle drivers, simply putting up “Don’t Block the Box” signs there would likely help a bit.

    Striping narrow little unprotected, unenforced bike lanes onto the poorly-functioning traffic sewers of the urban renewal era in Downtown Brooklyn is not really working. Tillary is still designed to be a street-level highway, so drivers bristle at interaction with bikes and peds. The whole circulation network leading to the bridges, BQE, and surface streets needs to be reworked for all users. The current situation doesn’t work well for anyone.



    I’m assuming it’s close to 0% “solved” for the property damage only. Have you tried getting a cop to show up and write a police report (as demanded by insurance companies)? I have. I ultimately gave up after 15 hours — and cancelled the request via 911. They basically refused to come… without actually refusing to come.

    Never mind the police report for my property that I had to pay for out of pocket, it also means one less case in the crime stats.



    Hmm, did de Blasio propose something right? Most weeks he’s Bloomberg- or even Giuliani-level daft. What’s the catch here?

    Re the TL piece, $450M is high for what we’re getting. $100M/mile ought to be more reasonable, maybe with some premium. That said, the AirTrain project is much more tolerable if future planners are capable integrating into the existing JFK AirTrain or into the subway. Are they consciously precluding that, or just ignoring future contingencies? Or could it actually integrate into one of those systems?



    Could a less central location have been chosen?



    Regarding the Harlem crash, I was at that very intersection at 5:40 pm, about an hour after the time cited by DNA info. But the scene I saw seemed the aftermath of a crash involving a dirt bike and a black car (which remained at the scene, not sure about the driver), and was really on St. Nicholas, not on 119th St. By the time I was there, there were no ambulances around, only police, and the dirt bike was surrounded with sand, presumably to cover/absorb some fluid (blood? gas? no idea).

    I wonder if it’s two different crashes happening within one hour almost at the same location, or DNA just being very confused…



    “I also feel like I have to speak out to champion… our parks,” said Bracken. “And the idea that we’re just going to redesign the park so that cyclists can speed through the park whenever they want…”

    “Well, that’s not what I’m saying,” Henry interjected.

    “But you kind of are,” said Bracken. “Not getting off ever?”



    “…Motorist Strikes Man Walking in Harlem, Victim Hospitalized (DNA)…”

    how does a car get hospitalized ?



    Trottenberg Will Ride New Sixth Avenue Bikeway Today to Mark Women’s Bike Month (AMNY)

    If this were more than just a photo op, she’d ride from Park Slope to 6th avenue. I’d honestly ride with her too!



    Yesterday: NYPD writing red light tickets for running a T-intersection (Flushing Ave and Clermont in Brooklyn) with no pedestrians present that will soon be turned into a yield anyway. Unfortunately as always they’ve failed to notice what’s got people cycling so stressed in the first place.


    Brad Aaron

    The copy was correct (per source), the map was wrong.




    solution: reallocate one lane of Henry Hudson Parkway during summer months for cyclists. The high speed cyclists will merrily use the new HH bikeway and 99% of conflicts along river will vanish.

    motor traffic on the HH drops from Labor Day to Memorial Day,



    Are you talking about the through route that connects the two park paths, or about the actual circular part of the road that also includes the highway offramps and onramps?

    The through pavement is fine, sure, but I’ve had some troubles with traffic on the circular segment. Cars aimed for the HHP southbound doing quick passes and cutting me off, when my goal is to exit the park and head east on W79th street, basically. It’s happened twice so far.

    Also, the pavement on the circular segment is beyond awful, and I don’t think it’d be trivial to repave it. It’s the roof of the boat basin cafe and the garages and whatnot; can’t just pour more asphalt on top.


    Miles Bader

    Isn’t this the sort of thing you’d appoint a special prosecutor for, to investigate corruption and dereliction of duty within the NYPD and its supporting legal apparatus (especially prosecutors)? Obviously the normal NYC justice and political system isn’t capable of handling the problem (unsurprisingly, really, as they’re all … close).

    So who’d do this? State? Feds?



    Presumed liability works for insurance but what you’re talking about is a complete repudiation of the basis of our criminal law system.



    I’m seeing this comment a few years later– wanted to add that this is a very wide intersection where drivers used to make wide turns and a big public elementary school is right here. If you hit a bollard in such a wide intersection, you are either making the turn too wide or too fast.



    I saw this at St Nicholas Ave and 119th St today around 5:40 pm. Anyone here knows anything? It looks like a crash between a dirt bike rider and the black car in the background, which had its windshield smashed, although it’s not very clear from my very poor picture…


    walks bikes drives

    There is a solid hill just north of the light house, under the bridge. Then you go over the railroad bridge, then a quick short ramp that removes all of your speed, before you go under the overpass and continue to THE hill. That first lip is similar to the lip at the rotunda going south. As you go up THE hill, it is a he’ll of a climb and most people get off their bikes. Then, as you are about to hit the bollard, the grade gets steep real fast for a very short few feet. This lip is also similar to the grade at the rotunda.


    Elizabeth F

    I’ve been trying it out all summer. Never had a problem. Now I look at the maps and I see yes, this is a highway interchange. But it’s just not a big deal. And as others have said… a little reconfiguration work could make it better.


    Elizabeth F

    Except for the part behind the softball fields, you can try this out yourself today.


    Elizabeth F

    Where do I read that?


    Ferdinand Cesarano

    It’s a shame that trials such as this are even necessary. We need sweeping legislative reform that enshrines in law the reality that every collision between a car and a pedestrian on a city street is the fault of the driver. If a driver cannot stop at the sudden appearance of a pedestrian, then that driver was going too fast or was not paying sufficient attention or both. The driver was thus negligent by definition.



    read: CB 7 Parks Committee Votes to Install New Ticket Trap for Cyclists


    Elizabeth F

    Can we get some CB7 board members and Parks Dept people out to the Rotunda on Citibikes? I’d like to see the look on their faces as they try to navigate the current hills (especially the one coming down from the Rotunda to the north). This isn’t an insurmountable problem, but it will required some re-grading.


    Elizabeth F

    It will be seasonal by default. Anyone will be able to bike anywhere they like between Dec-Feb, and also on any rainy day all year. Believe me, I know…


    Elizabeth F

    Is that what they said? Where is a dismount zone proposed in this plan?


    Chris Henry

    For what it’s worth, I think the inland route is a fine idea, even if it will come with predictable challenges with enforcement and compliance. At least try it, because the status quo is a mess. I stand by my comment that Parks, CB7, et. al., must continue to give very careful consideration to greenway design and function because, like it or not, it is a major arterial for cyclists and part of the city’s transportation network.

    I was dismissed somewhat by Bracken and the CB7 committee chair (who later revealed great ignorance on transportation policy when discussing the Amsterdam Ave bike lane) but I felt it was important to make the point regarding the park’s transportation function. The current condition in Riverside is unsustainable and I do appreciate Parks’ careful consideration of this alternative- and any other that affords better separation of pedestrians and cyclists in busy, constrained corridors.


    Ferdinand Cesarano

    Wow. Given that, it’s better to use car2go for $15 per hour.


    Joe R.

    I was about to say the same thing. Shared paths work fine when you have relatively few cyclists and relatively few pedestrians. With a lot of one or the other they start to become unpleasant for everyone. With a lot of both, which is what we have here, they’re a clusterf*ck.



    that is a rational and intelligent counterpoint, thank you!



    It’s not a behavior issue, its a volume issue. This is why CROW has thresholds above which cycling and walking should be separated, and this path is way past that point during the summer months at least.

    CROW doesn’t have this because of the “omafiets mafia”, but because of an inherent conflict created by high volumes in a shared design.



    This right here. This city gets the cycling community that it deserves.



    Glad they’re looking at cleaner carts. There’s no reason to use generators in a city with a working electrical system.


    Simon Phearson

    Yeah, I think we have to admit at some point that, where infrastructure creates conflicts, infrastructure provides the solution. If the traffic here is too dense, and the geography such that widening the path isn’t an option, then separated paths would seem to be the solution. It stinks that there’s a big hill in the middle of it, and that everyone wants to proceed with the detour before addressing that issue, but a separated path during high-traffic months seems like the smartest solution.



    By self policing I mean cyclists need to slow themselves down on that stretch and use common sense. It’s a shared space with kids and strollers and pets. A handful of bad apples give the rest of us a bad rap and lead to these edicts. Personally I only ride this way in the AM when it’s quiet and take St. Nick in the evening to avoid the crowds.



    The steep ramp at 79th will be challenging for some. An equally big issue is isolation and potential crime on the diversion during dark, cold season. The diversion doesn’t just segregate pedestrians and cyclists, it puts them out of sight of each other. If Parks had any sense they would do trial periods and see how the diversion works during warm/light season and cold/dark. Also, who are these people from Parks? Is NYC really a world city when these are the planners making decisions about one of the busiest bike paths in North America. They seem stunningly obtuse and ignorant. Does Bracken have any training in bike/ped planning or best practices? Multi-use path design? Where to start — of course you have seasonal changes in usage and activity in Parks — sometimes daily changes. HRPT closes the waterfront esplanades after dark during Winter — every day.



    Bike balancing is a perennial issue with bike share. It’s very difficult, and expensive, to manage empty stations in one area, and full stations in another, when there is a massive movement of bikes in one direction, as during rush hour. They also have to balance the number of bikes vs. the number of docks. Too many bikes in the system can cause problems as much as too few. Too many bikes, and it becomes harder to find parking.


    Simon Phearson

    I don’t understand why Bracken thinks a seasonal condition wouldn’t work. Drivers deal with on/off conditions on streets throughout the city without there being any apparent issues. Heck, the DOT’s preparing to install on/off parking/bike lanes on a couple of its new projects. Bracken’s either ignorant of how transportation works in this city, or she doesn’t care and will just do it her own way. Classic NYC bureaucracy in action…

    Put a barrel with a sign during the high-volume months to divert cyclists to the upper path; take it down for the low-volume months. It would solve so many of the existing problems and avoid so many of the ones created by the proposed detour.



    How is self-policing done when bicycling has gotten so popular?
    fwiw, I’ve occasionally seen a motorist try to ‘self-police’, and it gets scary and ugly with threats of violence.



    You should check this; the graphic isn’t consistent with the written description. The text says the vehicle was traveling eastbound, but the graphic shows a westbound movement.



    So true. My friend texted me a pic of the empty dock near him in Cobble Hill at lunchtime on a weekday afternoon.



    Simple. The free market dictates unfettered use of the streets for cars. Any attempt to reallocate space is Big Government intervention and interference with the free market.



    demand is concentrated on weekends


    Kevin Love

    Where is the data? How many pearls have been clutched at the horrific sight of a cyclist?



    Yep, the lip is more what I’m thinking of, not the first bit of incline _immediately_ north of the lighthouse.



    Well, people on foot are still gonna have to *cross* the bike route to get to the popular riverside.

    Certain parts of the path could be designated as bikes only, except to cross. (Not the parts that lead from the stairs/ramp at 73rd Street, but some other parts.) But if you think for a moment that there’d be any sort of enforcement to keep pedestrians from misusing what should be a dedicated bike route, you clearly aren’t riding on the same greenway that I am.