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  1.  

    Alicia

    You’re good at copying and pasting responses, I’ll give you that. You’re not good at answering questions or critical thinking, though. Once again, you reply with a comment that doesn’t actually answer the question that was asked.

  2.  

    jcwconsult

    Engineering in busy cities is a compromise between optimum safety for every road user under every possible condition — versus the practicalities of moving large amounts of vehicles and goods in and out of the cities for commerce. Jobs, housing of choice, and economic activity are required for society

    I accept that compromise, and most engineers also accept that compromise. Good ones focus the bulk of the traffic flow on a set of main arterials and collectors – to also protect the smaller, more residential, less capable side streets from higher flows and speeds.

    I understand that compromise, but some people don’t.

    James C. Walker, National Motorists Association

  3.  

    Joe R.

    The reason for aiming for zero is very simple. If you aim for the stars you might end up on Mars or Jupiter. If you aim for low Earth orbit you’ll probably end up in the toilet. Our times are sadly marked by a large segment of the population aiming for at best mediocre goals, and often not even hitting those. It’s time we aimed higher, not just against traffic violence but in many other facets of life.

    I also personally think near zero is achievable but it’ll take more than slogans, speed cameras, or even more aggressive prosecuting of reckless driving. If we can succeed in getting rid of all but essential vehicles in NYC we might have a shot at getting close to zero. Private automobiles largely operated by amateurs especially have to go.

  4.  

    Jonathan R

    Emergency vehicles in NYS are required to use “Due regard” standard when going lights-and-sirens; you can go through reds but must yield to traffic with the green.

  5.  

    Jonathan R

    The lost lane on West 170th St was covered here on Streetsblog. The editors used my picture.

  6.  

    van_vlissingen

    Maybe Manhattan activists could organize something like that? Take over the entire lane of traffic for some miles. My understanding however, is these closures come with no warning.

  7.  

    teresa montano1111

    Creative writing . For what it’s worth , others require a CA CR-181 , my business partner discovered a fillable document here https://goo.gl/UMKCBP.

  8.  

    Alicia

    Again, you reference the anonymous “many engineers.” Which engineers are you thinking of? What research have they done into implementing safe and convenient pedestrian and bicycle access?

  9.  

    Alicia

    2015 may have been low in New York, but compare it against national statistics, which have been seeing higher numbers of crashes, injuries, and deaths, and you realize that NYC is probably doing something right.

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    All Clear

    Point noted. Thanks. I find this reduction, from a previous historic low, to be nothing short of amazing. Even if Mr. Meyer believes it won’t get us to where we want to be, I’ll take the glass half-full side any day of the week: a constant double digit reduction in deaths, year over year. That would be a dream come true in 2024- a 57% reduction in deaths from where we are now (.9 ^ 8 = .43). Even if some people aren’t happy that it isn’t zero.

  11.  

    Vooch

    Ben – Headline should be injuries up 17%. :)

  12.  

    AnoNYC

    Streetsblog should do a report on bike lanes and pedestrian safety infrastructure that either disappeared or was never implemented as part of the plan.

    An example of bicycle infrastructure that has disappeared was the parking protected lanes on W 170th St in Highbridge. The FDNY complained without actually fact checking the problem or looking into alternative solutions.

    https://goo.gl/maps/5vSuJT7hokB2

    An example of a pedestrian safety improvement that was never implemented was the reconfiguration of the intersection at Close Ave and Westchester Ave in the Bronx. Close Ave was supposed to terminate into Bronx River Ave prior to Westchester Ave with a new pedestrian island to simplify the crossing and shorten the distance.

    https://goo.gl/maps/5Pt1SeK2WNH2

  13.  

    Sheriff Lobo

    If it wasn’t for Streetsblog continuing the push and putting the constant pressure on, we’d never get to even close to Vision Zero. So stop donating. Progress will halt if everyone did the same.

  14.  

    AnoNYC

    There’s a few little lots scattered throughout and plenty illegal locations (e.g. no standing/hydrants/etc). Everyone I know from the area and has access to a private auto admits that the situation is a nightmare. I personally avoid driving into Inwood. It has taken me an hour to get a spot in the past.

    It’s getting even worse now too (parking/traffic) with increased density and the conversion of the last remaining lots, parking garages, low density structures and gas stations. Even if most new people are not getting cars, any increase strains the neighborhood.

    https://goo.gl/maps/Gb4ax3nhyJ22

    Gas station/parking lot

    https://goo.gl/maps/oGE2bJydryn

    https://goo.gl/maps/vFDB8PFGBYE2

  15.  

    Ben Fried

    “but this should be the headline”

    … the hedline of the post is that traffic deaths are down.

  16.  

    JK

    Be helpful to have a ten year trend line. Year to year is too variable. If memory serves, 2015 was already a very low year for fatalities, so 2016 is probably historically low. Also, useful would be fatalities and injuries per 100k people. NYC pop has been growing, and this would really emphasize incredible progress. Is a bit baffling that City Hall isn’t bragging about this — they should be. Also, surprising that VZ website is not updating since VZ is key de Blasio priority. Take some credit for saving lives would you?

  17.  

    All Clear

    I donated to Streetsblog years ago, but stopped over the recent years.
    It appears that any positive improvement is viewed by Streetsblog and its writers/viewers as still an overall negative,
    such as “traffic deaths are down 11 percent, but since we won’t hit zero
    within eight years, that isn’t enough…..”

    This isn’t exclusive to Streetsblog, and applies to many other advocacy groups that in my view, are never satisfied with what is extreme progress, and won’t be satisfied unless an unreachable goal is hit.

    Plazas have been put up all over, including in areas where Community Boards have voted against it. Speed limits have been reduced, including in areas where the majority drive, and didn’t want the decrease. I approve of all of this, but this should be the headline, not that there is outrage due to an increase in speed cameras of only 400% in the last couple of years, and that we don’t have a speed camera on every block. Cameras are being increased every couple of years, and this is great news, and what should be focused on. Just because every block doesn’t have one, isn’t a reason to attack legislators- progress is moving in that direction, but obtaining it right now was never realistic, and isn’t something to be outraged about.

    This article was the kicker in my head. From the safest year in history, we are now down another 11% of traffic deaths. Amazing! A tribute to all this administration has done, right? Wrong- the author is still angry, since a bar that was never realistic, won’t be hit. As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that while zero deaths is a great goal, it will never be hit. Deal with it. David Meyer (the author) will be disappointed every year, even as fatalities continue to drop, with more amazing progress being implemented by our elected officials, which I am thankful for, but is so rarely the focus of an article here. I find that to be very sad.

  18.  

    com63

    Articles say the bus driver had a green. Firetruck was probably running the red and either didn’t see the bus or assumed the bus was going to stop. I don’t know who is at fault here. Presumably the bus driver could hear the sirens, but didn’t stop.

  19.  

    Vooch

    If Innuries are up and killing are down, this would suggest that the 25MPH limit is having a positive effect. Same number of crashes but at slowly speeds ( maybe )

  20.  

    Ben Fried

    Thank you Jonathan for fighting for a safer Dyckman Street. Shudder to think what NYC streets would be like if not for you and others willing to sacrifice their time to win these improvements, one imperfect project at a time.

  21.  

    Mike

    Sure, but it still could be the bus driver’s fault for running a red right in front of the fire truck.

  22.  

    BBnet3000

    Not as far as I know of. The minimum width is typically said to be for the purposes of street sweeping and plowing, though there are some that are too narrow to do that with a conventional vehicle (Sands St, Allen St, Fort Hamilton Parkway), which would also be too narrow for an emergency vehicle.

  23.  

    Vooch

    yes – “If you see a car in the bike lane, stop in front of it. For it to back up to the end of the block and get back in the car lanes. Video the encounter on your cellphone camera.”

  24.  

    HamTech87

    Weren’t these made this wide for emergency vehicles?

  25.  

    Vooch

    good for you – If the Hudson PBL closed ,then own 12th Ave

    If thousands own the Lane on 12th, then perhaps someone Might realize …

  26.  

    Elizabeth F

    If you see a car in the bike lane, stop in front of it. For it to back up to the end of the block and get back in the car lanes. Video the encounter on your cellphone camera.

  27.  

    Driver

    Look at the series of pictures on the NYPost link. The firetruck obviously struck the bus, despite both papers incorrectly reporting the opposite.

  28.  

    JudenChino

    Oh, anyone else enjoy that 40 block or so closure of the Hudson River Greenway on Sunday? I sure wasn’t full of pride as I dodged cars on the Westside Highway.

  29.  

    JudenChino

    I don’t understand why they’re giving the Ferry business to Hornblower. Just nuts. What a fucking waste of money. I wish someone would do some FOIAs to try to find the “real reason” because on its face it’s ridiculous.

  30.  

    BBnet3000

    Protected bike lanes and cyclepaths where motor vehicle intrusion is a known problem should probably get bollards. It’s quite clear at this point that the NYPD will not enforce bike facilities. The bollards don’t need to have ridiculous truck ramming k-ratings, they could be basic ones that could be removed once a week for street sweeping. Follow the Dutch standards for spacing, don’t make them awkward for cycling like the ones on the Manhattan Bridge.

    Could these be done using operating funds?

  31.  

    fdtutf

    Of course it is. That’s a quantitative analysis. I don’t see Mr. Walker doing that at all; instead, what we have are loose claims that “commerce” cannot be allowed to suffer, so motorists must be allowed to speed, so pedestrians must die.

  32.  

    fdtutf

    I’m certainly not repeating myself. But fine. It’s good to know where you stand (or, more accurately, sink into the mud).

  33.  

    Bikin Ain't Easy

    Great answer. Thanks.

  34.  

    Andrew

    Or implement SBS and move fare collection off-board to speed the bus. Which is exactly what’s happening to the Q70 in September.

    There are many bus lines that carry a large share of passengers who transfer to or from the subway – and that carry far more everyday riders than the Q70. The issue isn’t unique to the Q70, even if the Riders Alliance isn’t aware of the others.

  35.  

    Richard

    They’re right. Their kids are important and we should rely on more than a child’s underdeveloped sense of restraint to keep them safe. If that means closing the street then so be it.

  36.  

    Vooch

    bungee cords fore & aft

    or

    for really awkward loads ( furniture, storage Boxes stacked 3 high ) some line and a couple of trucker’s hitches

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trucker%27s_hitch

  37.  

    ahwr

    What keeps the luggage from falling back if you start biking uphill? Or falling into you when you go downhill or have to stop suddenly?

    7% of LGA flyers don’t start their trip within a five mile ride of the airport.

  38.  

    Vooch

    teenager wussed Out on cycling with me carrying his Luggage on my Bike

    took the Train

  39.  

    Joe R.

    Have a safe and enjoyable trip! I think I’m the only other one around here who might be crazy enough to try something like that, assuming I had the desire and ability to travel. Nevertheless, it’s great to show people with enough determination you don’t need a motor vehicle. I used to do that with the 40 mile round trip bike errands I did with my younger brother back when I was in college. I’d probably still be riding along with him if he still did bike errands.

  40.  

    Vooch

    Maybe niche cubes Is accurate :)

  41.  

    Jonathan R

    Dr. V, I have to confess I always appreciate the spirit of “can-do” and joy in bicycling that infuses your comments on Streetsblog.

    It’s Sunday and I am happy to exult in your expertise. Happy trails!

  42.  

    Vooch

    the question was asked regarding loading a carry on on a Bike – the photos show this to be posdible and more.

    LGA Is a easy cycling trip from Much of the city. With a modest network of PBLs …

  43.  

    qrt145

    Congratulations, but if you think 7% of passengers will do that you are deluding yourself. You are a minority of a minority of a minority. First, people cycling for transportation are already a minority. And then you are at the tiny intersection of people willing to balance huge loads with those who think that cycling for a rare trip to the airport is worth the trouble.

    I say that as someone who has cycled to train trips, going on moderately loaded shopping trips on a bike, and gone on camping trips on a bike, which I gets puts me in minority squared, but not minority cubed…

  44.  

    jcwconsult

    Thanks for a good exchange, but now we are just repeating ourselves.

    James C. Walker, National Motorists Association

  45.  

    Jonathan R

    Where are you drawing your observations about painted lanes from? The East 167th St lane between Clay and Morris in the Bronx was milled and paved in October of 2014 and the lane was painted back with the rest of the striping.

    I will interpret your request for me to denounce the plan at the CB as sarcasm, since being described as a delusional stooge by a soi-disant fellow advocate is pretty demotivating.

  46.  

    Vooch

    Bike loaded up with baggage ready for ride to LGA !

    1 Big carry on
    1 massive Sports bag

    everything but the Kitchen sink ( teenager going away to Camp for 3 weeks )

  47.  

    Vooch

    it Is a false Argument that commerce requires private cars. Every City that prioritizes Pedestrians Over private cars sees increased commerce, higher property values, and more happiness.

    Easy Example is Time Square. Since the modest pedestrian zones were created; Theater attendence has skyrocketed, property values explored, and merchants are estactic.

    Rid the City of Parking craters, Superhighways, motor sewers and observe increased commerce

  48.  

    ahwr

    Coming up with a statistical value of life for cost benefit analysis is pretty common. Is that any different?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/17/business/economy/17regulation.html

    http://www.nber.org/papers/w9487.pdf

  49.  

    HelenGretel6790

    Nice piece , BTW , you are requiring a WI 00-2011 , my business saw a blank document here http://goo.gl/wEA0P3

  50.  

    fdtutf

    And there it is: Commerce trumps human life.

    The only word I can think of for that is depraved.