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  1.  

    Maggie

    As part of the PABT improvements, I’d love to see 41st Street be pedestrianised between 8th Ave and 6th Ave at Bryant Park. It could be such an amazing gateway to NYC.

  2.  

    J

    Why is it unfair? The more people that take transit, the fewer cars are congesting the roads for people who need to drive, the less polluted the air we all breath, the less health care everyone subsidizes through taxes, etc.

    Basic economics teaches us that we should tax the behaviors that we want to discourage and we subsidize the behaviors we want to encourage. Since taking transit has enormous positive externalities (reduced congestion, reduced pollution, better health, higher land values, etc.) it makes absolute sense to subsidize it. Since driving has all sorts of negative externalities (congestion, pollution, negative health impacts, etc) it makes absolute sense to tax it. Given that the two are substitutes for each other, it makes sense for a tax on the negative behavior to subsidize the positive behavior. It sucks that some people have jobs that they must drive to, but those commuters directly benefit from more people taking transit and fewer other people driving, and their driving has a direct negative impact on other people. I don’t think this is unfair at all.

  3.  

    Joe R.

    Suppose then the punishment is limited to simply permanently revoking the person’s license? No fines, no jail time unless a higher burden of proof is met. That should be constitutional since driving is a privilege, not a right. Privileges granted by the state may be revoked by the state for any reason whatsoever.

  4.  

    AnoNYC

    Most of the stops son’t even have a small island, you just stand on the street between traffic.

  5.  

    Ian Turner

    Yes, I nearly got hit by a cab here this weekend. The intersection needs a flashing red arrow to make cars stop before turning.

  6.  

    AnoNYC

    Curbs should be extended to the supports along the entire length of the elevated rapid transit lines.

    Eliminating the parking and outside moving lanes would do wonders to regulate traffic while providing new pedestrian spaces and improved safety.

    See first image above.

    If buses are a concern, you can even create inlets outside the pillars at the bus stops for buses to pull off onto the side and pick up. Or just make off board fair payments the standard.

  7.  

    Andres Dee

    I’d prefer a higher base fare if it meant more accountability to the riders, money for serious upgrades and less need to kiss rings in Albany. “Senior” fares could be expanded to the poor.

  8.  

    Michael Klatsky

    Tying Transit to Road costs is simply unfair and breeds resentment. If you want it funded through subsidy, then fund it through general taxation – don’t penalize the person that happens to live in Queens and can only find a job in the Bronx….

  9.  

    iSkyscraper

    Try living in Toronto. They have much higher fares than New York and cover far more of the operating cost, but that has just been an excuse for less funding from governments for capital improvements, leaving the system overburdened.

    http://www.blogto.com/city/2014/01/are_ttc_fares_still_the_priciest_in_north_america/

  10.  

    Brian Van Nieuwenhoven

    Unless they do something illegal.

    It should be illegal to hit a pedestrian with a car because of reckless driving. And it is. Except the courts are like “Ehhhhh it’s not a crime”

  11.  

    BBnet3000

    If theyre going to be adding more crossings of the greenway in the future, i certainly hope they widen it when they do. Its really not wide enough for faster riders to pass slower ones comfortably all the time.

    Does anybody know what the CROW width standard for a bikeway like this would be?

  12.  

    Robert Wright

    My point, I suppose, is that it was much harder to see and work out the behavior of drivers coming from the far side of the road. I agree there are also substantial problems with southbound drivers – but I grew so used to their refusal to yield, negligence and speed that I’d approach the crossing looking back over my left shoulder to see what was coming and whether the driver seemed likely to yield.

    Caution, however, doesn’t protect one entirely and the fundamental point, I suppose, is that the intersections are an all-round mess.

  13.  

    Nugget

    Also the cyclist appears to be heading south and there is a wall of trees and a curve which means that it’s nigh impossible for any vehicle to see a cyclist coming at speed down that path. There should be a blind spot mirror or at least a phased light here and a little further up where the Circle Line Ferry entrance is. When I bike this area this section is one of the most dangerous and I see folks barreling along this section with little care in the world.

  14.  

    lop

    Too easy to hide cuts to transit so they aren’t felt for years.

    Raise the fares to cover operating costs, road pricing to cover capital costs and to subsidize transportation for the poor – cash, to use as they see fit, buying a metrocard, car, bike, hiring a taxi etc…as they see fit. Try and cut those subsidies people feel it right away so they can fight it in a way they won’t fight when the MTA puts off maintenance because the city or state cuts payments.

  15.  

    Jonathan R

    Brian, I agree with you, but we have a Bill of Rights that protects the accused, even dirtbags, against the power of the government.

  16.  

    Jonathan R

    I was more referring to Brian’s proposal for “immeasurably steep” fines.

  17.  

    Tal F.

    I think the turning vehicles from the southbound side of West St. are far more dangerous, as they have the green light at the same time as cyclists, and are often making the turn directly from the highway without stopping.

  18.  

    Brian Van Nieuwenhoven

    And it’s not cruel and unusual and completely unfair, what happened to Violetta Krzyzak?

    You are misinterpreting the law and the Constitution, to a stunning degree. For what?

  19.  

    qrt145

    The problem is that society today thinks that revoking a driver’s license permanently is a “cruel and unusual punishment”, while the framers of the constitution probably had in mind something like hanging, drawing and quartering when they used that phrase…

  20.  

    Jonathan R

    Brian, the Eighth Amendment says, “Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.”

  21.  

    Tal F.

    Classic right hook. I was quite nearly hit in that exact spot last year. A cab right hooked me and I was forced to swerve into the sidewalk, and I fell off the bike. Luckily I escaped with just minor contusions.

    I still pass the spot every day, and it is often problematic. Both buses and cabs making a right turn from the adjacent West Side Highway often do not yield to bikes. From the position of this bus in the photo, it looks like it was making a right turn, so if the bus had a green light for the turn, then so did the cyclist. Clearly the bus did not yield.

    With the high volume of bike traffic this time of year, I believe many bus drivers get tired of waiting and just make a run for it when bike traffic appears to clear momentarily. If I see a bus waiting to turn as I approach, it is always a game of “will this bus driver yield the right of way to me.” Many times I’ve had to make sudden stops to avoid hitting a bus that has started turning. The problem is worst when there is bad weather, as the number of cyclists decreases and the number of people on the bus increases. Today’s overcast skies may have been a contributing factor.

    I think that a red/flashing yellow right arrow turn signal for cars/buses may reinforce that motorists must yield at this intersection.

    Other than Chelsea Piers’ driveway, which ALMOST ALWAYS has a human being present to direct traffic, this is the most dangerous driveway crossing the Greenway. The driveways for accessing the cruise ship terminals also frequently get crossing guards, though they often stop bikes when the bike light is green to let cars through, so their priorities seem off. I’d be hesitant to recommend a crossing guard, as most do more harm than good, stopping bikes but not stopping cars.

  22.  

    Robert Wright

    I used to cycle along the Greenway daily when my office was in midtown. I obviously don’t know what happened in this particular instance but those intersections are deadly and I share the views of those who’ve said it’s surprising there aren’t more crashes. I was careful always to obey the lights at the heavily-trafficked intersections because vehicles came through so fast. Vehicles turning from the northbound side of West St are particularly dangerous because they often won’t see cyclists on the Greenway as they swing across and they often complete their moves well after the lights change. I regularly remonstrated with bus drivers, taxi drivers and truck drivers who turned at speed through those intersections when I had the light.

    I feel very sorry indeed for the cyclist who’s been hurt in this incident and hope he makes a recovery.

  23.  

    Reader

    It’s not just that cars and buses cross the greenway, it’s that many of the access points from the West Side Highway are angled like highway off-ramps. There’s little that actually slows down drivers from 40 or 50 mph to a speed that would be appropriate for crossing a pedestrian- and cyclist-heavy environment, like 5 – 10 mph.

  24.  

    Tal F.

    Noticed that as well, looks like it was corrected already. I know several people who use that bus daily. It is a commuter bus.

  25.  

    Ben Fried

    Amended, thanks.

  26.  

    Douglas John Bowen

    Respectfully nitpicking: Is it certain the issue involves a *tour* bus operator? NY Waterways, whatever its pros and cons, normally might be considered something other than a tourist operation. Not sniping; just inquiring.

  27.  

    JoshNY

    I’m pleasantly surprised to read that the Newark police officer was indicted for several offenses.

  28.  

    Mike

    My commute includes the Hudson River Greenway from Chambers to 103rd Street. That stretch near 40th has a few spots where cars/buses cross the greenway. I always take it very slow along there. There are lights, but they are ignored by many — both drivers (mainly cabs) and cyclists (like 90% of us) will ignore/fail-to-notice the lights. Joggers all over the bike lane don’t help much either. I’m honestly amazed there aren’t more accidents.

    I feel awful for this guy and hope that he’s ok — my tip is go slow and look in every direction through each of those intersections. In both directions (and especially from the north) you’re coming off a stretch free of stops or obstacles (except joggers and the occasional police horse), and it can be hard to change mindsets from zooming along to stop/start traffic, but folks need to slow down and be careful through this section.

  29.  

    Jeff

    I’ve spent the past few weekends exploring the East Bronx, and that’s led to a lot of time on Westchester Ave (which features an el for the majority of its length). There are many intersections which feature subway stairs on the corner, a lane of traffic, and then a sad little island where people can wait for the bus, followed by the “main” lanes of traffic. As far as I can tell the only reason those sad little islands aren’t “filled in”, as on Southern Boulevard, is to maintain one or two parking spaces. Motorists seem to make right turns from the “main” lanes anyway (as they should–using the useless lane would require weaving between the pillars of the el).

  30.  

    qrt145

    I think I read that FAQ, but whoever wrote the web app seemed to have something else in mind, as it refused to proceed without filling in the vehicle info. Maybe it’s been fixed; I’ll try again. I didn’t want it badly enough to deal with customer support so I just gave up. This was maybe one year ago.

  31.  

    Shemp

    All drivers and all nearing or over 60 yrs old

  32.  

    stairbob

    I got an E-ZPass several years ago that isn’t linked to any car’s plates. (I use it for rental cars about once a year.)

    E-ZPass FAQ (https://www.e-zpassny.com/en/faq/account.shtml) says:

    Yes. If you do not own a vehicle, you can still enroll in E-ZPass®. Your tag can be used in any vehicle with two axles, a maximum gross weight of 7,000 pounds and single rear tires (includes RV’s with dual rear tires). Please ensure that theE-ZPass® tag is mounted as per the tag installation instructions in all vehicles in which the tag will be used.

    Finally, yes, you can get an “MTA Private” account and use cash to put money on your E-ZPass. See https://www.e-zpassny.com/en/faq/reload_card.shtml

  33.  

    Brian Van Nieuwenhoven

    Um, the proof is in injuring or killing the bystander. This crap about “frame of mind” should apply to capital murder, but we should make it a severe statuatory offense to simply fail to follow the rules of the road in a way that is known to be reckless and dangerous, since all drivers take education classes that inform them well that such behavior is known to be reckless and dangerous.

    If you are uncomfortable with these being CRIMINAL offenses I’m more than happy to have the statutes revised to take out the criminality (except for a car used intentionally and deliberately as a weapon) and to simply make the penalties be fines that are immeasurably steep and lifetime bans from driving (for which a violation would be a felony). But I don’t think you have a lot of support on that proposal; the general public indeed thinks that reckless driving with intent to facilitate a crime should be considered criminal activity punishable by jail time. I’m just sorry that the weaselly criminal justice system has found ways out of abiding by that policy.

  34.  

    andrelot

    Fortunately, such a fascist law would never pass.

    It is unacceptable to reverse the burden of proof in the manner you suggest, for something that is perfectly legal and, 99,999% of times, done safely by more than 180 million Americans on a daily basis.

    The State should be the one with the burden of proof that a person committed a crime. It should NEVER be up to a citizen to prove, prima facia, that (s)he didn’t commit a crime.

    Your suggestion reminds me of the craze about “baby shaking” incidents in the 1980s and early 1990s, when some were crying out for laws that put the burden on parents to prove they “took good care” of a baby that died. Obviously such laws never passed.

    An unintended consequence of your freak proposition would be any sane driver fitting his/her car with multiple cameras ‘just in case’ they need to prove they weren’t involved in something criminal.

    Your idea regarding “presumed criminal liability” is abhorrent, and would disregard a basic tenement of civil liberties. It involves a mindset that considers all drivers essentially criminals by being merely drivers, and you only want a law to catch as many of them as possible.

    This is the example on why reasonable traffic measures never really pass, there is always a fringe of wackos and haters who want, essentially, to ban completely individual morotized transportation, and are willing to bend civil rights, presumption of innocence, due process and what else to achieve that goal.

  35.  

    Reader

    Perhaps the good news about the Citibike deal and expansion taking so long is that we’re that much closer to Citi’s sponsorship contract running out. Eventually this very popular “public transportation system” should be funded by a combination of user fees and city/state/federal funds, like most systems in the world.

  36.  

    Jonathan R

    You have pointed out a nice example of fundamental attribution fallacy there. “I make enlightened decisions; all others who do not agree with me are horribly misinformed!”

  37.  

    Maggie

    Quick point that dumbasses is not a good way to describe people paying cash for tolls, for whatever reason made sense to them that day. Are people who pay convenience charges to Ticketmaster dumbasses? No, they’re just choosing from a sort of annoying set of options.

  38.  

    Cynical copy editor

    “13-Year-Old Cyclist Struck By Cabbie on Life Support”

    Licensing standards must be even lower than I thought if they allow cabbies on life support to drive!

  39.  

    Tyler

    Why don’t planners make the obvious decisions? Take a look at Boston. They dug a massive $15 billion ditch in the ground between South Station (Amtrak, South/West Commuter Trains and Buses) and North Station (North Commuter Trains), but they did not include the basic and obviously necessary transit link between the two. You have to navigate two subway lines –for things like an onward journey (Amtrak –> Commuter Rail) or folks from Massachusetts or Rhode Island taking the train in to see a Celtics game or whatnot. The now have a direct link between South Station and the Airport, so progress I guess.

  40.  

    Guest

    One reason not to consider PRT is that it does not exist.

  41.  

    Andres Dee

    There are huge projects in progress on the west site, conveniently close to PABT, Penn or the 7. Hudson Yards comes to mind. Why wasn’t some bus infrastructure (a terminal or a layover facility) baked into the deal?

    Considering how many river crossings NYC built between 1880 and 1940, why can’t the city draw some bold lines and find the wherewithal to seem them through?

    Finally, a huge percentage of commuter lines are running “over the road” type buses, with high floors and underused luggage bays. These would seem a no-brainer for battery compartments and an electric conversion pilot. I’d focus on the lines that pick up on 5th Avenue and daily degrade the quality of life on that street with their noise and exhaust.

  42.  

    KeNYC2030

    While there are many ways to identify hazards to pedestrians, there’s hardly any way to highlight dangerous conditions for cyclists. For example, how to point out that the bike lane on Central Park West is wholly inadequate and a constant dooring hazard?

  43.  

    Jonathan R

    Same way they pay the light or phone bill, at the check cashing place.

  44.  

    Kevin Love

    I do know that if a car driver hits NYPD officers and gives them injuries so minor that they are treated and promptly released from hospital, that car driver gets charged with Attempted Murder. See:

    http://nypost.com/2012/08/22/driver-held-in-cop-hit/

  45.  

    Jesse

    Why wasn’t this case felony murder?

  46.  

    Andrew

    The NYPD report indicates there were nine pedestrian fatalities in May, but data compiled by Streetsblog from media sources and our own reporting show 10 pedestrian deaths.

    That discrepancy alone is pretty troubling.

  47.  

    nycbikecommuter

    “ruling that the defendant showed concern for others’ safety by swerving around vehicles and people as he attempted to elude police” – are these judges retarded?

  48.  

    nycbikecommuter

    You’d think someone would have figured out by now that we have a problem in NYC… and it’s not bikes…

  49.  

    Marlboro4eva

    Who’s that sexy tom guy? we want more of him.

  50.  

    Larry Littlefield

    If they hit and killed a cop, wouldn’t that have been murder?

    I’m not sure but I believe that if you are an accomplice in a robbery, and the other accomplish kills someone, that too is murder.