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  1.  

    Ari_F_S

    Obviously this is a bad decision. But it could be dangerous.

    I could see a judge argue that – with drunk driving – the “recklessness” or “awareness of wrongdoing” are established when the driver starts drinking. It would be nearly impossible to prove a similar recklessness for a routine failure to yield without other contributing factors (like alcohol, cell phone distraction, etc.).

  2.  

    BKBedStuy

    So you respond to my point about absolute speed with reasserting a measure of relative speed. Hmmmm… Pointing to an arterial or major collector to prove your point demonstrates how bankrupt your reasoning is: “It’s safer for drivers to drive faster on roads designed to allow cars to go faster to the exclusion of all other users.” Can you see the failed logic here?

    The crash risk for those driving slower on an arterial/collector is related to the heterogeneity of speeds of vehicles. Thus, the appropriate response to sharing the street with pedestrians and cyclists which are moving much slower than vehicles, is to slow the vehicles such that the range of speeds is smaller. Your point certainly holds for limited access highways/expressways, but not urban streets.

  3.  

    JudenChino

    What a ridiculous ruling but goes to show just how much so many of our pols/judges/leaders have internalized the notion that instances of street violence are just “accidents” and to impose the weakest fucking possible criminal sanction for killing someone in a cross walk is somehow violative of due process. Like any showing of negligence, one need not prove intent. Either you’re in control of the vehicle, or you’re not. That’s it. And if you couldn’t see an old lady in a crosswalk, then yah, you shouldn’t be driving and you should be punished accordingly.

  4.  

    iSkyscraper

    In a nutshell, those who have cars love them and need them and protect them. Plus, nightlife businesses expressly cater to customers arriving by car from the Bronx and NJ and northern inner suburbs. The fact that there are two subway lines and a couple nearby Metro North stations are not relevant as those rail connections go northwest and south, not east, west or northeast. The 75% of the residents who do not own cars are outvoted politically by those who do, and DOT has long bent to the wishes of the local pols. It is getting marginally better with Rodriguez, who has a transportation role at City Council and as noted above supports this plan, but as I said above everything is an uphill struggle.

  5.  

    Vooch

    then it would only be just to flash mob taking the lane on west street/12th ave from WTC to 55th one Summer Saturday without warning

  6.  

    JamesR

    What is it about this part of the city? I’m just over the Harlem River in Riverdale and ride through here all the time. It’s just an inherently chaotic area, as though the residents are trying to graft a car culture on to an area that can in no way support it. BTW no one walks their bikes on the HH bridge. Broadway is a death trap by the Marble Hill Houses, so the HH is the way to go.

  7.  

    Vooch

    suspended = paid vacation

  8.  

    Guest

    2 DUI cops in one day. Wonder how they get the impression the law doesn’t apply to them… @placardabuse?

  9.  

    iSkyscraper

    Difficult to pull off with the commercial activity there. Perhaps if Dyckman had a BID, there would be someone to reason with, but there isn’t.

  10.  

    iSkyscraper

    Valet parking is no joke – you’re so right. Southern Inwood is awash in club traffic on any given party night and the laws are simply not enforced.

  11.  

    iSkyscraper

    Oh boy, the CB meeting tonight just got even crazier. Besides an unusually large number of problematic “restaurant” (read: illegal nightclub) liquor license renewals, and rezoning disaster fallout from 4650 Broadway, now bike lanes are thrown in the mix. A topic which the CB is eminently unqualified to comment, loving their free street parking and hating bikes as befitting a community board that thinks it lives in Staten Island.

    The one protected bike lane in Inwood, the one on Fort George Hill, they tried to have overturned after it was installed. Hope DOT just ignores them and builds the lanes anyway.

  12.  

    AMH

    Does Streetsblog have a take on the race for the 13th? Curious whether any of the numerous candidates have a record on transportation/street safety. I don’t see it in any of their platforms.

  13.  

    AMH

    Exactly–every driver is already impeding traffic in his or her own way.

  14.  

    cjstephens

    It’s tough to tell sometimes with online communication, but are you being serious or sarcastic? There are over 3,000 schools in NYC. Do you think that 3,000 blocks should be closed to traffic every school day? I’m the last person to argue on behalf of car drivers, but even I think that’s ridiculous. Again, I went to elementary school on a relatively dense block on the Upper East Side, and we managed just fine without traffic being closed. I don’t think that drivers have gotten that much more reckless or that children have gotten that much more delicate since I was a child in the ’70s.

  15.  

    BBnet3000

    NY1 is reporting that 19-190 has been ruled unconstitutional in court. Can this be true?

  16.  

    ddartley

    The horse thing:
    All “impeding traffic” laws should be thrown out on First Amendment grounds.

  17.  

    BBnet3000

    I prefer 31st Avenue as it is now. The median, if it ever gets built out like 34th Avenue, means that people driving can’t pass people cycling unless the latter are forced into the door zone. Even then, passes are a lot closer than they are on other two-way avenues in the city (such as 31st Ave today). If you don’t believe me, go ride 34th Ave and 31st Ave on a bicycle and compare the experience.

    The only high quality approach to cycling on a street of this width without removing parking for a protected lane is removing through-traffic: http://nacto.org/publication/urban-bikeway-design-guide/bicycle-boulevards/volume-management/

  18.  

    jcwconsult

    It is terribly simple,

    I and most engineers accept the compromise, you and several other responders don’t.

    James C. Walker, National Motorists Association

  19.  

    Alicia

    You’re good at copying and pasting responses, I’ll give you that. You’re not good at answering questions or critical thinking, though. Once again, you reply with a comment that doesn’t actually answer the question that was asked.

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    jcwconsult

    Engineering in busy cities is a compromise between optimum safety for every road user under every possible condition — versus the practicalities of moving large amounts of vehicles and goods in and out of the cities for commerce. Jobs, housing of choice, and economic activity are required for society

    I accept that compromise, and most engineers also accept that compromise. Good ones focus the bulk of the traffic flow on a set of main arterials and collectors – to also protect the smaller, more residential, less capable side streets from higher flows and speeds.

    I understand that compromise, but some people don’t.

    James C. Walker, National Motorists Association

  21.  

    Joe R.

    The reason for aiming for zero is very simple. If you aim for the stars you might end up on Mars or Jupiter. If you aim for low Earth orbit you’ll probably end up in the toilet. Our times are sadly marked by a large segment of the population aiming for at best mediocre goals, and often not even hitting those. It’s time we aimed higher, not just against traffic violence but in many other facets of life.

    I also personally think near zero is achievable but it’ll take more than slogans, speed cameras, or even more aggressive prosecuting of reckless driving. If we can succeed in getting rid of all but essential vehicles in NYC we might have a shot at getting close to zero. Private automobiles largely operated by amateurs especially have to go.

  22.  

    Jonathan R

    Emergency vehicles in NYS are required to use “Due regard” standard when going lights-and-sirens; you can go through reds but must yield to traffic with the green.

  23.  

    Jonathan R

    The lost lane on West 170th St was covered here on Streetsblog. The editors used my picture.

  24.  

    van_vlissingen

    Maybe Manhattan activists could organize something like that? Take over the entire lane of traffic for some miles. My understanding however, is these closures come with no warning.

  25.  

    teresa montano1111

    Creative writing . For what it’s worth , others require a CA CR-181 , my business partner discovered a fillable document here https://goo.gl/UMKCBP.

  26.  

    Alicia

    Again, you reference the anonymous “many engineers.” Which engineers are you thinking of? What research have they done into implementing safe and convenient pedestrian and bicycle access?

  27.  

    Alicia

    2015 may have been low in New York, but compare it against national statistics, which have been seeing higher numbers of crashes, injuries, and deaths, and you realize that NYC is probably doing something right.

  28.  

    All Clear

    Point noted. Thanks. I find this reduction, from a previous historic low, to be nothing short of amazing. Even if Mr. Meyer believes it won’t get us to where we want to be, I’ll take the glass half-full side any day of the week: a constant double digit reduction in deaths, year over year. That would be a dream come true in 2024- a 57% reduction in deaths from where we are now (.9 ^ 8 = .43). Even if some people aren’t happy that it isn’t zero.

  29.  

    Vooch

    Ben – Headline should be injuries up 17%. :)

  30.  

    AnoNYC

    Streetsblog should do a report on bike lanes and pedestrian safety infrastructure that either disappeared or was never implemented as part of the plan.

    An example of bicycle infrastructure that has disappeared was the parking protected lanes on W 170th St in Highbridge. The FDNY complained without actually fact checking the problem or looking into alternative solutions.

    https://goo.gl/maps/5vSuJT7hokB2

    An example of a pedestrian safety improvement that was never implemented was the reconfiguration of the intersection at Close Ave and Westchester Ave in the Bronx. Close Ave was supposed to terminate into Bronx River Ave prior to Westchester Ave with a new pedestrian island to simplify the crossing and shorten the distance.

    https://goo.gl/maps/5Pt1SeK2WNH2

  31.  

    Sheriff Lobo

    If it wasn’t for Streetsblog continuing the push and putting the constant pressure on, we’d never get to even close to Vision Zero. So stop donating. Progress will halt if everyone did the same.

  32.  

    AnoNYC

    There’s a few little lots scattered throughout and plenty illegal locations (e.g. no standing/hydrants/etc). Everyone I know from the area and has access to a private auto admits that the situation is a nightmare. I personally avoid driving into Inwood. It has taken me an hour to get a spot in the past.

    It’s getting even worse now too (parking/traffic) with increased density and the conversion of the last remaining lots, parking garages, low density structures and gas stations. Even if most new people are not getting cars, any increase strains the neighborhood.

    https://goo.gl/maps/Gb4ax3nhyJ22

    Gas station/parking lot

    https://goo.gl/maps/oGE2bJydryn

    https://goo.gl/maps/vFDB8PFGBYE2

  33.  

    Ben Fried

    “but this should be the headline”

    … the hedline of the post is that traffic deaths are down.

  34.  

    JK

    Be helpful to have a ten year trend line. Year to year is too variable. If memory serves, 2015 was already a very low year for fatalities, so 2016 is probably historically low. Also, useful would be fatalities and injuries per 100k people. NYC pop has been growing, and this would really emphasize incredible progress. Is a bit baffling that City Hall isn’t bragging about this — they should be. Also, surprising that VZ website is not updating since VZ is key de Blasio priority. Take some credit for saving lives would you?

  35.  

    All Clear

    I donated to Streetsblog years ago, but stopped over the recent years.
    It appears that any positive improvement is viewed by Streetsblog and its writers/viewers as still an overall negative,
    such as “traffic deaths are down 11 percent, but since we won’t hit zero
    within eight years, that isn’t enough…..”

    This isn’t exclusive to Streetsblog, and applies to many other advocacy groups that in my view, are never satisfied with what is extreme progress, and won’t be satisfied unless an unreachable goal is hit.

    Plazas have been put up all over, including in areas where Community Boards have voted against it. Speed limits have been reduced, including in areas where the majority drive, and didn’t want the decrease. I approve of all of this, but this should be the headline, not that there is outrage due to an increase in speed cameras of only 400% in the last couple of years, and that we don’t have a speed camera on every block. Cameras are being increased every couple of years, and this is great news, and what should be focused on. Just because every block doesn’t have one, isn’t a reason to attack legislators- progress is moving in that direction, but obtaining it right now was never realistic, and isn’t something to be outraged about.

    This article was the kicker in my head. From the safest year in history, we are now down another 11% of traffic deaths. Amazing! A tribute to all this administration has done, right? Wrong- the author is still angry, since a bar that was never realistic, won’t be hit. As a Civil Engineer, I can tell you that while zero deaths is a great goal, it will never be hit. Deal with it. David Meyer (the author) will be disappointed every year, even as fatalities continue to drop, with more amazing progress being implemented by our elected officials, which I am thankful for, but is so rarely the focus of an article here. I find that to be very sad.

  36.  

    com63

    Articles say the bus driver had a green. Firetruck was probably running the red and either didn’t see the bus or assumed the bus was going to stop. I don’t know who is at fault here. Presumably the bus driver could hear the sirens, but didn’t stop.

  37.  

    Vooch

    If Innuries are up and killing are down, this would suggest that the 25MPH limit is having a positive effect. Same number of crashes but at slowly speeds ( maybe )

  38.  

    Ben Fried

    Thank you Jonathan for fighting for a safer Dyckman Street. Shudder to think what NYC streets would be like if not for you and others willing to sacrifice their time to win these improvements, one imperfect project at a time.

  39.  

    Mike

    Sure, but it still could be the bus driver’s fault for running a red right in front of the fire truck.

  40.  

    BBnet3000

    Not as far as I know of. The minimum width is typically said to be for the purposes of street sweeping and plowing, though there are some that are too narrow to do that with a conventional vehicle (Sands St, Allen St, Fort Hamilton Parkway), which would also be too narrow for an emergency vehicle.

  41.  

    Vooch

    yes – “If you see a car in the bike lane, stop in front of it. For it to back up to the end of the block and get back in the car lanes. Video the encounter on your cellphone camera.”

  42.  

    HamTech87

    Weren’t these made this wide for emergency vehicles?

  43.  

    Vooch

    good for you – If the Hudson PBL closed ,then own 12th Ave

    If thousands own the Lane on 12th, then perhaps someone Might realize …

  44.  

    Elizabeth F

    If you see a car in the bike lane, stop in front of it. For it to back up to the end of the block and get back in the car lanes. Video the encounter on your cellphone camera.

  45.  

    Driver

    Look at the series of pictures on the NYPost link. The firetruck obviously struck the bus, despite both papers incorrectly reporting the opposite.

  46.  

    JudenChino

    Oh, anyone else enjoy that 40 block or so closure of the Hudson River Greenway on Sunday? I sure wasn’t full of pride as I dodged cars on the Westside Highway.

  47.  

    JudenChino

    I don’t understand why they’re giving the Ferry business to Hornblower. Just nuts. What a fucking waste of money. I wish someone would do some FOIAs to try to find the “real reason” because on its face it’s ridiculous.

  48.  

    BBnet3000

    Protected bike lanes and cyclepaths where motor vehicle intrusion is a known problem should probably get bollards. It’s quite clear at this point that the NYPD will not enforce bike facilities. The bollards don’t need to have ridiculous truck ramming k-ratings, they could be basic ones that could be removed once a week for street sweeping. Follow the Dutch standards for spacing, don’t make them awkward for cycling like the ones on the Manhattan Bridge.

    Could these be done using operating funds?

  49.  

    fdtutf

    Of course it is. That’s a quantitative analysis. I don’t see Mr. Walker doing that at all; instead, what we have are loose claims that “commerce” cannot be allowed to suffer, so motorists must be allowed to speed, so pedestrians must die.

  50.  

    fdtutf

    I’m certainly not repeating myself. But fine. It’s good to know where you stand (or, more accurately, sink into the mud).