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  1.  

    Bolwerk

    What doesn’t work exactly?

  2.  

    neroden

    There are specific precinct-by-precinct problems: some precincts (the 70th) are blatantly criminal, with criminal cops parking on the sidewalk and blatantly ignoring traffic laws.

    A real evaluation needs to find out which precincts are actually implementing Vision Zero and which ones are letting scofflaw motorists kill with impunity.

    And all the DAs are letting scofflaw motorists kill with impunity. It doesn’t matter what the laws are if the DAs refuse to prosecute.

  3.  

    neroden

    Add Rodriguez, Treyger, Gentile, and Menchaca to the list of worthless deadweight on the City Council. Along with worthless de Blasio.

    Geez.

  4.  

    neroden

    So, over 35 killers left to roam free and kill again; 1 off the streets.

    Apparently Thompson is doing better than the Queens or Manhattan DAs. :-(

  5.  

    neroden

    Anyone own a tow truck company? Tow them all.

    You probably want to first run the stunt I suggested earlier, of reporting them all every single day (on camera).

  6.  

    neroden

    Perhaps there should be a concerted campaign to report the sidewalk-blocking. Go in with a large group, photograph the illegally parked police cars, then go in and file a police report against the crooked cops who are parked illegally.

    Repeat daily. Wait for the criminal cops to retaliate, and be ready with filming and broadcasting. Then demand that de Blasio do something about the corrupt precinct.

  7.  

    neroden

    If the police are parking cars on the sidewalk, they need to be arrested.

  8.  

    neroden

    Replace the DAs. There are other issues in the mayor’s race… but in the DA’s races, the ONLY issues are:
    (1) crime committed by police
    (2) crime committed by motorists and ignored by police
    (3) crime committed by other people and ignored by police

    It’s going to be easier to get real candidates and win elections on the DA side of things.

  9.  

    neroden

    Since when does the 70th precinct have any right to set the rules here?

    The parks department should simply declare the path open and tell the precinct to shut up. Go over the heads of NYPD; it’s a racketeer-influenced corrupt organization at this point anyway.

  10.  

    neroden

    Wait, what? The Queens DA actually charged someone?

    …oh. It was obviously a case of deliberate murder. Still refusing to charge *anyone* with reckless driving.

  11.  

    neroden

    “Trottenberg said that while education and encouragement are vital, she
    sees law enforcement and justice as the next frontier for Vision Zero”

    Thank you Trottenberg. It’s become woefully obvious that several DAs and a lot of police are just routinely letting reckless drivers get away with killing people.

    It’s not just shameful, it’s actually dereliction of duty on the part of the police and assistant DAs, which makes them subject to removal from office for cause. The elected DAs, of course, should be removed by elections.

  12.  

    neroden

    To do that, someone needs to run against him. And specifically, you need someone to run on a *platform* of actually enforcing the laws against reckless driving. (So that you don’t get a clone of Richard Brown.)

  13.  

    neroden

    Replace Brown with a different DA. (Brown is elected.) The new DA can fire any assistant prosecutors who don’t get on board.

  14.  

    neroden

    Actually, Brown should not merely be unemployed; he should be arrested for 14th amendment violations, due to his selective and biased decision to enforce laws for some people and not for others.

  15.  

    neroden

    What you need to organize is a DA election campaign.

    These are usually off-the-radar enough that a third party candidate has a shot of winning, or the candidate could win in the Democratic primary if there’s a primary.

  16.  

    JackDeeRipper

    Sorry, did I say accident? I meant an assault.

  17.  

    neroden

    Somehow I suspect that when you start looking at the Bronx it’ll be just as bad. And Staten Island will probably be worse.

  18.  

    neroden

    Did you get the number of the vehicle driven by the criminal cop?

    You’re going to have to replace the DAs anyway. You need a DA who will prosecute criminal motorists. You also need a DA who will prosecute criminal cops. Might as well get started by working on cops who commit crimes while driving police cars!

  19.  

    neroden

    The driver was driving recklessly. He failed to yield the right of way to a pedestrian who was walking slowly through a crosswalk — a pedestrian who was walking with the light.

    That is reckless driving by definition. It’s ALWAYS been reckless driving, as far back as the 1920s.

  20.  

    neroden

    Nah. Setting people on fire is messy and has unanticipated side effects. Bullets do the job efficiently, as the Bolsheviks knew.

    Hopefully we haven’t yet gotten to the point that the Russians oppressed by the Tsar (an absolute-dictator) had gotten to, which incited the Bolsheviks and other communists to resort to bullets. Supposedly we can still vote out these corrupt DAs and corrupt judges. Let’s give it a try.

  21.  

    neroden

    Most folks — *when organized as a group* — have a lot of power. If the government encourages vigilantism on this scale, it won’t be solo operators — it’ll be militias.

    Better to simply replace the felonious, corrupt, killer-coddling DA with a new DA who will actually enforce the laws.

  22.  

    JackDeeRipper

    The first thing I would do is call 911 for EMS and law-enforcement to report and document an accident report.

  23.  

    Guest

    The first thing I would do is call 911 for EMS and law-enforcement to report and document an accident report.

  24.  

    neroden

    You don’t need to riot. Run your own candidate for DA — one who will prosecute killer motorists (and prosecute killer cops). Get him elected. Democracy is supposed to eliminate the need for riots.

    If they steal that election through fraud and vote suppression, then you should actually organize an militia and overthrow the government. Because if the elections are being stolen, you have no other way to restore democracy.

  25.  

    neroden

    Yeah, but you need an opposition candidate. And some funding to run ads explaining that Brown coddles killers.

  26.  

    neroden

    Like I say, the ad campaign against DA “friend to killers” Brown writes itself. Who’s going to be the candidate to run against Brown?

  27.  

    neroden

    You shouldn’t just do that. DAs are elected! You should run a candidate against him in the next election. Make Brown LOSE.

    You only have to win one DA election based on this issue — because the DA is SOFT ON CRIME committed by motorists — and all the other borough DAs will start falling into line out of fear of losing their jobs.

  28.  

    neroden

    Who’s running for DA in Queens in the next election on the Vision Zero platform?

    This DA is SOFT ON CRIME. DA Richard “friend to killers” Brown thinks it’s OK for people to kill babies and attack grandmothers with cars — he said so in his own letter.

    The ads write themselves. Richard “friend to killers” Brown should be thrown out of office. Anyone live in Queens, care about stopping killer motorists, and want to get rid of him? You don’t have to be a lawyer to run for DA, though it would help.

  29.  

    neroden

    Private criminal prosecutions, such as they have in the UK, seem like the only hope.

    Unfortunately to do that in the US you have to get the attention of a grand jury, and the grand juries have been taken over by the prosecutors in a piece of stunning scam artistry.

    I thought maybe something would happen when a police officer assaulted a JUDGE. A judge has the right to empanel a grand jury on his own authority, and that grand jury has the right to prosecute — the DAs and police don’t even come into the picture. But the judge who was assaulted did not do that, so no progress was made.

  30.  

    neroden

    Judging by that picture, the street is plenty wide enough for two protected bike lanes and two lanes of parking. The driving lanes might be a little narrower than DOT likes it, but that’s good, it’ll act as traffic calming.

  31.  

    neroden

    Way too many cops approve of assaults. They commit assaults routinely — haven’t you been reading the news? :-(

    I think the best hope is the Brooklyn DA. This may be egregious enough that he’ll start to go after the killer motorist — maybe even after the corrupt cops.

  32.  

    neroden

    The Brooklyn DA needs to prosecute. And frankly, if the NYPD won’t help, the DA needs to prosecute the police officers for corruption.

  33.  

    neroden

    The actions of the motorist appear to be, at best, reckless endangerment, and at worst, deliberate murder. With multiple witnesses. What will it take to get the DA to prosecute?

  34.  

    neroden

    The license plate number should be released and the driver’s name and address should be determined from this. Someone needs to inform the DA and the grand jury who to charge.

    And it seems that the NYPD is engaged in a cover-up, so it’s up to the witnesses and the media and the public to work on justice.

    So, who’s the killer in the silver Audi? I await crowdsourcing.

  35.  

    neroden

    I have only one caveat: when cutting police, the city government should totally ignore “seniority”, regardless of what union contracts say. Instead, the city should systematically get rid of the violent criminals in blue, one at a time, as they are convicted of assault and other crimes, and leave their positions vacant. This would easily reduce the size of the NYPD by 1/3. :-(

  36.  

    neroden

    Reporting them for illegal and dangerous driving in the cycle path might be a good way to stop their reign of terror. I think you’d have to get the DA’s attention.

  37.  

    neroden

    Every time they drive on the bike path, someone should get the license plate number and file a criminal complaint — or a civil lawsuit for reckless endangerment. As far as I can tell, it’s totally illegal to drive on the bike path. Steve Vaccaro might be able to do the legal research to confirm whether I’m right about this (I haven’t done the full search of the law books).

  38.  

    neroden

    Or a JUDGE who is asking a cop to stop violently beating someone in handcuffs.

    http://www.newyorklawjournal.com/id=1202568440130/Queens-DA-Covering-Up-Cop-Assault-Judge-Says?slreturn=20141023080622

    http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/08/19/1232287/-NYPD-assaults-judge-trying-to-protect-handcuffed-homeless-man-from-beating-judge-sues

    The NYPD is a RICO organization and needs to be thoroughly cleaned out. It’s time to make the case to judges that “I ran from the cop because the cops in this town are brutal criminal killers and I feared for my life”. ‘Cause it’s the truth.

  39.  

    neroden

    The real problem is corruption among the NYPD brass. Ticket quotas are illegal and unconstitutional, but they were pushed by that criminal scum Ray Kelly, who belongs in maximum security prison for life for his conspiracy against the public.

    As long as violent felons like Ray Kelly roam the streets, we’re not safe. We need some sort of police department to arrest violent felons like Ray Kelly.

    The jury is still out on whether the new Police Commissioner Bratton is honest; he may be honest and having trouble. Because it takes a long time to clean up an organization which has been corrupted for decades by a violent felon like Ray Kelly at the top. On the other hand, he may be another violent felon like Ray Kelly was. We’ll see.

  40.  

    neroden

    They’ve already failed. Cuomo — or de Blasio — can always change his mind and choose to stop failing.

  41.  

    neroden

    Actually, cops like this need to be arrested for assault. What you need to do is get a specialized lawyer. Then try to file a police report regarding the assault. Which the police will refuse to take, but you have to document that. Then… well, you get the picture, it goes on and on. It’s a big pain when cops are criminals.

  42.  

    ahwr

    The sort of police cuts talked about here would save something like 1-2 billion annually from reduced salary and benefits/pension OPEB prepayments. That could do a lot of good expanding transit. Or even just plugging the MTAs budget gap to maintain what exists. Or rebuilding roads to be safer, better accommodate surface transit, bikes, and pedestrians.

  43.  

    ahwr

    To continue the analogy how many of those trips on i80 would you have made if most exits led to miles of dirt roads before you could reach your destination or otherwise uninviting environments for someone in a car? What if you had to walk the last couple miles from the highway?

    Building a nice linear park would be great. But they are expensive in most cases. In some near natural boundaries or repurposing existing infrastructure they can bebe relatively cheap. But a greenfield linear park? Very expensive. The street level improvements you could get with the same amount of money would serve a far greater number of bike trips, a far greater number of bike miles. Then once you have multiple bikeable destinations (neighborhoods) connecting them with a speedier route could start to make sense.

    http://seattlegreenways.org

    https://www.portlandoregon.gov/transportation/50518

  44.  

    Joe R.

    Basically anyone and everyone who will listen, especially the news media. Make sure to get the officer’s badge number and (if possible) their name. Cops like this need to be publicly humiliated.

  45.  

    Joe R.

    Assuming the police told him to stop (which I highly doubt), and he was actually close enough to clearly hear them, it still takes a bit of time to process the information. Suppose a cop tells a suspect to drop a weapon, then starts shooting him 1 second later because he/she didn’t comply? You have to allow a reasonable window for your commands to register before you take action.

    Also, the action taken should be in proportion to the offense you’re being stopped for. If you just committed a felony, are highly likely to be a danger to the public, then sure, the police can tackle you and more to keep you from fleeing in the interests of public safety. What danger is there here which required such an extreme measure? He ran a red light? Moreover he did so in what is probably one of the least dangerous places in the city to run red lights. Why are the police even there in the first place if not to fulfill ticket quotas? Stuff like this causes respect for the police to be lost. I can’t think of too many things one might do on a bike which would justify tackling them to stop them. Hitting a person and fleeing would, but that’s about it.

  46.  

    Joe R.

    He may not have heard the cop even if the cop was yelling at him to stop. On a bike at normal speeds you’re out of someone else’s voice range in a few seconds at most. Combine that with wind noise which distorts sounds you do hear. It’s entirely plausible he didn’t hear any order to stop. Truth is I think there never was one. Given how out of shape the NYPD is there’s no way a cop on foot could have chased after a cyclist, then tackled him, after the cyclist failed to stop. Most likely the cop was stationed not far from the red light and tackled any cyclists who went through but didn’t stop the second he told them to as a matter of course. Remember it might take a second or two for your brain to process sounds and realize the cop meant for you to stop. Long before that occurs, this POS excuse for a cop will have already tackled you. It’s actually a great tactic to trump up what might otherwise just be a red light ticket into resisting arrest.

    I hope this guy gets a six figure payout. That will cancel out a few hundred or more red light tickets. When these bike dragnets are seen as revenue neutral or revenue negative, maybe they’ll stop.

  47.  

    Joe R.

    I’ve heard cops yelling many times when I ride. To me it’s just more urban background noise. I wouldn’t assume a cop was yelling at me unless he/she said something like “Hey you on the bike, stop, police!” Even then I might scan my surroundings just to see if the yelling was directed at another cyclist.

    And sorry, but it’s a cop on foot, there’s no f-ing way I’m stopping even if it’s directed at me. I’m rabbiting the second I know a cop is on my tail. Those tickets are really expensive, plus I have little doubt I might also receive a gratuitous beating even if I complied with the officer to the letter. Too many bad things can happen when a cop stops you, so it’s worth taking a chance on getting away. More often than not you can. Back in the Guiliani era I received a sidewalk cycling ticket. I vowed never again to just act like a fish in a barrel. I had cops after me twice in the intervening years, in patrol cars. I lost them both times. Given that, evading a cop on foot is a no brainer. Make a quick turn on to another street after you do, then a few random turns. In a 3 or 4 minutes you could be anywhere within a one mile radius. The police aren’t going to waste resources on you, especially when there’s no positive way to identify you as the cyclist who escaped.

    There are plenty of stories of people victimized by police, not just cyclists. While this type of police behavior is inexcusable, the fact is people aren’t victimized unless they let themselves be victimized. In my opinion most cyclists make it way too easy for the police. If I ever get a ticket, I’m going to be damned sure to make the police work like hell for it. Yes, citizens should fight and evade police when the police are doing things of no value to public safety, like these stupid bicycle dragnets.

  48.  

    Joe R.

    You’re right but it seems nobody in the NYPD is brave enough to do that. If I was a precinct commander at one of these community meetings where people complain about bikes and ask for crackdowns, I would say something like this:

    “Statistically you’re about as likely to be killed by a bike as you are to be killed by lightning. Policing is done by going after the statistically most dangerous things, not going after the things people complain about the most. People’s perceptions of danger rarely match the reality. Although you may find bikes annoying, they’re not statistically dangerous, and this precinct has no plans to target bicycles. This isn’t to say the occasional cyclist may not get a ticket if they’re doing something really dangerous to warrant it, but we’re not going after jaybikers or people riding carefully on sidewalks. These things are at best a low level urban annoyance, not a danger. If the police ticketed everything which other people found annoying the courts and jails would be full.”

  49.  

    WalkingNPR

    Agreed. Let’s do it.

  50.  

    ahwr

    Do you know what might be considered international best practice for pulling over someone on a bike?

    With cars I assume there is a specified operating procedure that gets followed to ensure the safety of all. Is there similar training for pulling over cyclists safely?