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    Kevin Love

    Poughkeepsie has how many bus routes with over 750K ridership?


    Ian Turner

    I’d strongly recommend pleading not guilty. Bring a photo of your bike. Very good chance the case will be dismissed and it will only take about 40 minutes of your time.



    Hello Steve, Thank you so much for all you do for us, New York cyclists.
    I got a ticket for running a red light on a pedestrian crosswalk in Manhattan. The agent mistakenly wrote that my bike is black, instead of yellow. In any case I guess I should plead guilty. My priority is to avoid the points, and the extra $88 that they are making us pay. Could you please let me know how to proceed? I can go to their offices in person if necessary, I’d just like to take action asap. If you redirect me to your office for legal advice, please let me know first what your fees are ;-) Many thanks! Patricia


    Anxiously Awaiting Bikeshare

    That is an excellent question that we will never know the answer to. It would actually be kind of nice to get a Q&A on here with a traffic judge to hear about their process, what they look for, tips on preparing for court, etc.

    I am guessing my lack of any prior offenses since 2006(if those are even still visible to the judge in the system?) played a role as she brought them up in the case prior.



    Not that I’m not happy for you, but why did it get dismissed? The judge doesn’t even ask you if you did run the red light?


    Joe R.

    Apparently the police are of a different mind:

    In this case, they didn’t charge the driver with anything because must have thought not one, not two, but three women, ages 60, 67, and 70, could all suddenly jump in front of a car simultaneously.

    NYC’s elderly must be in really great shape with all those death defying leaps in front of motor vehicles. Maybe we should start a senior Olympics here.



    Yes, yes yes! I biked south off of the QB bridge on a SUNDAY and was terrified. I can imagine how crazy this would be on a weekday morning! I can’t bike to my Midtown East office because of this – hope they address this issue soon.



    Second Avenue needs a bike lane to connect 34th Street where the lane stops up to 104th Street where the lane starts again. Going downtown is really a dilemma on the east side because Fifth Avenue, Park Avenue, Lexington and Second Avenue are all difficult, slow, stressful and dangerous to navigate as a cyclist.
    First Avenue needs a bike path from 49th to 59th Street where the “enhanced shared lane” is virtually impassable for bicyclists during all daytime hours and the two congested left turn lanes especially conflict with cyclists’ ability to proceed.



    Sure, the problem is coherence, not people that jump to conclusions and have poor reading comprehension.


    Anxiously Awaiting Bikeshare

    So I figure this is as good a place as any to share as no one should be intimmidated by court:

    I had my first ever day in traffic court to fight a red light ticket I got on 2nd ave and 4th st. while riding to work. The process was super easy and fast. I arrived at 12:55 for a 1pm hearing where I sat with 7 others who were fighting tickets. My name was called 2nd* where I stood up at a microphone next to the officer who had stopped me. The judge asked the officer for her side, the officer presented the facts as she saw them in a fair and straight forward manner. The judge asked the cop if I was heading south (meaning with traffic), the officer said I was. The judge asked the officer if she had anything else to say, the officer said no. The judge then closed the record, thanked the officer, and dismissed the ticket. I got a print out saying so, thanked the judge and the officer, and was on my way.

    I literally just showed up and the potentially $278 ticket got thrown out. I didn’t say a word other than basic procedure (name, I didn’t have a lawyer and didn’t need one, etc.). It took 16 minutes of my day plus the reasonably nice 5 minute walk along battery park to/from my office.

    I highly recommend everyone else at least try who gets caught up in this bike crackdown nonsense.

    *The first woman to go was someone stopped for texting and driving, it was her 3rd offense in a year so she was trying to avoid the points. She was found guilty after basically admitting guilt in her testimony by saying she was texting while stopped at a light but not while moving.


    bored at work

    why all the anger? perhaps if your screed were a bit more coherent, there wouldn’t be all the confusion.



    This is great. An even better (IMO) reconfiguration would be safe access to Midtown East going south from the Queensboro Bridge! Traffic on 1st and 2nd Aves is horrendous and the space for bikes is nonexistent.


    walks bikes drives

    Sad. When CIS investigates, homicide charges should be filed. The misdemeanor charges should only be applied as either initial charges or when CIS does not investigate.



    Are you really this dense? I am asking- UNLESS a person runs into the crosswalk- what reason do cops have to NOT charge the driver with a violation of 19-190? Please read before you comment.


    Brad Aaron

    Yes this is one of those, but the purpose of Section 19-190 was to give beat cops the power to file charges for the thousands of other injury crashes that CIS does not investigate. So far that isn’t happening.


    Chris Mcnally

    I would prefer reserved on street spaces for car2go on every block. Zip car is a slight hassle because you have to go to a parking garage to get the car. Reserved parking on the street (as well as one way rental) are the two incentives needed to reduce car ownership in a typical Brooklyn neighborhood.

    I don’t know that someone like my mom would switch to car share, but many people who are considering buying a car might not given a really attractive alternative.


    bored at work

    Are you really suggesting that this 82 woman ran into the crosswalk and that’s why she was hit? Or just making the point that you can google the appropriate section of the law?



    It is the law that pedestrians don’t enter the crosswalk suddenly.

    “No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is
    impractical for the driver to yield.”


    Kevin Love

    No, for serious charges like Attempted Murder to be laid, all it takes is for an NYPD officer to suffer such minor injuries that they are promptly released from hospital. See:



    Um, it is the law. This is an article about laws; perhaps you can get familiar with the topic first, ask questions second.

    S 1151. Pedestrians` right of way in crosswalks. (a) When
    traffic-control signals are not in place or not in operation the driver
    of a vehicle shall yield the right of way, slowing down or stopping if
    need be to so yield, to a pedestrian crossing the roadway within a
    crosswalk on the roadway upon which the vehicle is traveling, except
    that any pedestrian crossing a roadway at a point where a pedestrian
    tunnel or overpass has been provided shall yield the right of way to all
    (b) No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety
    and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close that it is
    impractical for the driver to yield.
    (c) Whenever any vehicle is stopped at a marked crosswalk or at any
    unmarked crosswalk at an intersection to permit a pedestrian to cross
    the roadway, the driver of any other vehicle approaching from the rear
    shall not overtake and pass such stopped vehicle.



    Stop on a dime is probably a bit much to ask. Even at 10 MPH it’s pretty hard to stop that fast. I’m willing to be reasonable and admit there are instances where pedestrians do literally “dart into traffic”. But it’s not nearly to the degree those with a windshield perspective want to believe. And I guarantee it’s not 82-year-old ladies.


    Doug G.

    “It’s just so clear that she had the right of way and the driver needs to be prosecuted,” Chin said. “You’re talking about someone getting killed.”

    It’s rare that an elected official articulates the problem so clearly, and sad that it needs to be said. Thank you, Margaret Chin.



    I mean yeah, Russian dash-cam-style stuff notwithstanding, how fast are people driving through crosswalks? Would it be unreasonable for people to drive through slowly enough such that they could literally stop on a dime, and failing that, any collision would be a non-issue?



    I really like your idea for a 2-way bike path on the east side of Christie, but in addition to retooling the intersection at Houston, it would require ripping up and rebuilding some pedestrian islands, so I think it might be a few years away. Ideally, we do both, since it’s such a high-traffic bike area.



    I think a police officer has to die before it is considered serious.



    Uh, I think the point of “running” isn’t about speed but about being unforeseeable. And it’s a reasonable point.



    “Other than a pedestrian running into the crosswalk”

    Is there a pedestrian speed limit that I am unaware of?



    No. The underlying issue in the Gothamist Bus Etiquette Tale is an unhappy old woman who refused other seats and decided to terrorize the young mom. The bus wasn’t so crowded that other riders were unable to offer their seats.



    “NYPD is reserving its use for the most serious crashes, which are investigated by the Collision Investigation Squad.”

    This isnt one of those? Would multiple people have had to die to constitute a serious crash?



    That eastern half is in front of the DEP building. No one dares to illegally park curbside in front of the DEP building. However, that DEP building comes with a different problem: sidewalk parking by employees. The DEP employees drive to work and move official DEP vehicles onto the sidewalk so that they can fit their personal cars in the DEP garage during the day. CB6 would like to address this, but did not want to complicate the Greenway connector resolution by including it.


    Seth Rosenblum

    Both of these things sound great. I don’t think you’d have to do much for NB cyclists on Chrystie, since they can easily (and safely) cut over on Stanton. I believe Houston will have bike lanes when the construction is finished though.



    Was there any discussion of increased presence of officers on bicycles? It seems to me that those officers would be more useful for pursuit for education/enforcement directed at cyclists. (I did see notice bicycle officers during the week or so immediately after the second fatal accident – or perhaps I just noticed them more than previously.)


    Brian Van Nieuwenhoven

    I am impressed with the commitment of these statements from our electeds. We need more of this, until NYPD and Vance’s office are both on-board.



    Other than a pedestrian running into the crosswalk, what could possibly block charging the driver who turns on a green light (light, not arrow) with 19-190?



    I like the Walkway over the Hudson but 750K people a year is less than ridership on many suburban bus routes. I’m also persuaded by Cap’n Transit and others that we’re frittering away our rail corridors, especially our freight ones, and making political choices to double-down on trucking and highways which make climate change worse.

    At some point, we may regret the loss of these rail corridors, because the cost of building new ones through land acquisition alone will be heavy.



    The Walkway Across the Hudson is a fun and easy and beautiful day trip from upper Manhattan and the NW Bronx — put your bike on MetroNorth to Poughkeepsie, take a short round trip ride on the other side of the Hudson and / or a longer ride out to Hopewell Junction on the newish Dutchess County Rail Trail. I think it’s about 36 miles roundtrip if you ride out to the end of the trails on each side of the river. Easier to do with folding bikes because MetroNorth is still not super-bike friendly.


    Ben Fried

    It would be cool to see this happen. I wonder if Chrystie Street can also be salvaged though, with a two-way protected bike lane on the east side of the street. The intersection of Chrystie/2nd Ave/Houston would have to be retooled, probably with dedicated bike signal time, and you’d want to give northbound cyclists on Chrystie a better transition than the current bike lane dead-end. But something’s gotta change.



    Yes, I agree there is a HUGE disjuncture between the safe streets “movement” and other social justice movements/coalitions in this city which revolve around more traditional brutality like cop violence, affordable housing, etc. Its a big problem for the [safe streets] movement for sure, something I’ve been hammering a lot.

    Safe streets people would be well advised to start coaching advocate language in terms of collective good vs individual good, rather than just whining (like i did in the past!) about how they want more bike lanes. It has to be about public good. It has to be about how bikers are individually targeted for what cops saw in other bikers (eg: prejudice & bigotry). and so on.


    Jonathan R

    Interesting idea. I have thought of a two-way cycle path on 1st St between 2d Ave & 1st Ave, but maybe this is better.

    The question is however, is it safer to cross Houston St at 2d Ave/Chrystie St with traffic, or at 1st Ave/Allen St against traffic? From Chrystie and Stanton it is easy to get to Allen St; I think there are even sharrows, and since Stanton doesn’t go through Allen, traffic is limited.



    Very well said; that’s been my exact sentiment for years. Just look at the frickin speed limits in suburban Jersey, compared to what ours were for decades. Their lives were worth more in proportion to motorist convenience than ours were.



    This is a really good idea.

    The width is even there to not have to narrow it like the 37th-38th section, because 1st Ave has all these extra lanes compared to Allen St northbound and the left side of 1st Ave is barely used by cars on the lowest blocks unless they want to make a left.



    Plea bargains are really unconstitutional — they constitute corruption *and* blackmail on the part of the prosecutors — and I’m not sure why they’re allowed. I also don’t know how we get rid of them. Theoretically, the grand jury can simply ignore the prosecutors’ corrupt bargains, but grand juries have been neutered.



    A speeding driver left the roadway and was actually charged with reckless driving!

    Oh, wait, that was in the suburbs, where they show more concern for the well-being of people who are already dead than we do for the living. Ba-da-boom!



    Trouble is, have you got a good DA candidate? It’s been really hard, so far, to replace these guys. At least Thompson is prosecuting some of the policemen who’ve murdered and assaulted citizens — which is better than the Manhattan DA, Vance. Seems like baby steps.



    The epidemic of lawlessness in the US is caused by the DA’s ability to “excuse” lawbreaking by simply not prosecuting. You can murder a million people, and if the DA is in your pocket, you never go to trial.

    By the way, in the UK there’s a protection against this: it’s called “private prosecutions”. Anyone can prosecute a criminal case in the UK, and when the public prosecutor is being corrupt, sometimes people raise the money and do so. This keeps the public prosecutors honest.

    I’m not sure when private prosecutions dropped out of the US legal system, but we may need to bring them back.



    Seriously, who did he think would revolt? Upstate Dems don’t care, Dems in most of NYC are taking the subway, suburban Dems… well, there aren’t enough to run a revolt in the Assembly.



    Honestly, there aren’t that many personal automobiles in Manhattan. The vast majority of the vehicles on the road in Manhattan are taxis, hire-cars / limos, or commercial trucks. I’m not sure how much difference it would make to ban personal autos; in order to make any progress you’d probably have to do something about the sheer number of taxis & limos. (The commercial trucks, there seem to be about the right number and I wouldn’t want to try to replace all of them..)



    And if your car is stolen, you report it to the police and then you don’t have to pay the toll. They’ve started working out the bugs like that.



    Is there actually any training for traffic cops in NYC? Because the more I hear, the more it seems like there isn’t.



    The folks trying to prevent traffic violence, and the folks trying to stop cops from parking on the sidewalk and in bus lanes, need to hook up with the folks protesting against police abuse of colored people, Schoolcraft’s attempt to report the illegal quota system, everything. The NYPD is basically a Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization, and it has to be approached that way; all the different people being abused by it need to start cooperating.

    I suggest, once you’ve got a large enough network, asking Judge Thomas Raffaele (who was personally assaulted by a cop) to convene a grand jury to investigate the systemic NYPD conspiracy to commit crimes themselves and let people get away with other “preferred” crimes like vehicular homicide. I don’t know how else to start, it’s bad enough it needs a grand jury. The new Brooklyn DA *might* be helpful. The Manhattan DA, Vance, is clearly part of the criminal cop conspiracy.