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  1.  

    AMH

    The Google streetview car did not yield either!

  2.  

    Wilfried84

    I have not had good experience with concrete. 1st Ave. before they repaved in asphalt was cracked, and not very pleasant. There’s a short stretch of Seaman in Inwood on a steep downhill that’s concrete. It’s cracked and fissured and patched with lumpy asphalt, and as bad a moonscape as you’ll find anywhere. They didn’t repave this portion when they repaved the rest of the street (I presume because repairing the concrete would take a lot more work, which I think was also an issue on 1st Ave.). The rhythmic thunk, thunk, thunk on the Manhattan bridge is not the worst thing, but not altogether pleasant either. I’d rather ride on the asphalt on the Williamsburg or Queensborough. There aren’t any potholes on the bridges. I presume the asphalt in bike lanes would last longer if cars didn’t drive on them (or they didn’t dig trenches right along them, as they so often do)?

  3.  

    Alexander Vucelic

    the vast majority of new Yorker’s are not going to be sympathetic to a tiny minority of NYC Car owners whining about having to Pay for Parking 5 Out of 365 days a year during a Snow Emergency .

    the vast majority of New Yorkers are also going to be even less sympathetic about a tiny minority of NYC Car owners whining about having to take public Transporation 5 Out of 365 days a year during a Sbow Emergency.

    NYC should follow the best practices of Many US cities, eliminate curbside Parking along all avenues and major Blvds.

  4.  

    bolwerk

    Ferdinand’s probably right. The environment these horses operate in, on streets, is abysmal. Might be able to make a case that they can be treated humanely if they’re limited to the park, but still horses are herd animals that range over large distances. Keeping them penned up in a city just seems inherently cruel. Further, the amount of work each horse needs to do in a day to be economically worth keeping is probably also cruel.

    I can’t for the life of me see what the fuck anyone who isn’t a head-up-the-ass NIMBY cares about pedicabs being around, but for New Yorkers who want to ride horses, humanely, there is proper pastureland within miles of NYC. Riding around the canyons of skyscrapers is just vanity.

  5.  

    chekpeds

    Absolutely .. and the corners too ..
    the whole thing needs a fundamental rethinking . bike lanes should be cleared first and used by emergency vehicles, Then sidewalks, crosswalks and corners .. then the the road itself where one lane on every avenue should be reserved for holding the snow that is bing plowed . It makes no sense to push it onto pedestrian, parked cars and bike lanes ..
    on the side street , there should be reserved parking spaces in the middle of th block to pile up the snow.

  6.  

    Ferdinand Cesarano

    It is not possible to address the mistreament of the animals, because this is inherent to the functioning of the industry.

    I save my vacation days so that I can take off from work any day that is near 90 degrees, in order to ride my bike all day. I love the heat; but the horses sure don’t. I frequently see the horses working on those hot days, clearly suffering. This indicates the kind of care that they get. Abusing the animals in this manner is in the owners’ interests.

    Furthermore, stopping this cruelty absolutely does not mean that the horses would be sent to the glue factory. It can easily be arranged for the current horses to live out their lives peacefully at the City’s expense.

  7.  

    ganghiscon

    Most of the drivers I’ve seen here are NYPD, anyway.

  8.  

    djx

    Look at the car. By my seat-of-the-pants that car was going way too fast. Which means the police should investigate hard to find evidence that backs up that feeling. If they can’t find any such evidence, OK, don’t more forward to prosecution. But it’s like finding a body with a bullet – assume the person was shot and try to prove it.

  9.  

    Aunt Bike

    That was is a late model Nissan Rogue that killed the victim, it no doubt came out of the factory with an event data recorder that would tell how fast the driver was going when he killed the victim, and if he braked or not.

    But in December 2015, the federal Driver Privacy Act of 2015 was enacted. It places limitations on data retrieval from EDRs and provides that information collected belongs to the owner or lessee of the vehicle. And New York State law says data from EDR’s can only be accessed with with owner’s consent or by court order; except for purposes of vehicle safety research; diagnosing, servicing, or repairing the vehicle; or for dispatch of emergency medical personnel.

    And motorists have the nerve to complain about a “war on drivers”. Drivers can speed with little more to worry about than a monetary penalty. Even when their speeding or recklessness has fatal results they’re protected by law.

  10.  

    AMH

    If the horses aren’t being treated well, that should be addressed instead of destroying the industry and sending the animals to the glue factory.

  11.  

    Brian Howald

    https://www.google.com/maps/@40.6949765,-73.7170658,3a,75y,62.94h,66t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sbCm8ydyKEKjagEqWkSZbuA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656!6m1!1e1

    If you head south on Elmont while keeping the street view view facing north, you can watch a car fail to yield to a pedestrian trying to use the crosswalk for the school. No criminality, indeed.

  12.  

    Maggie

    Two separate sidewalk crashes on Amsterdam since DOT presented its initial plan last November. Drunk driver flipped a car at high speed after crashing into a row of parked cars outside Peacefood, down the block from the precinct, since DOT presented its adjusted plan in January.

    I don’t understand the safety concern. Ok. That’s the safety concern.

  13.  

    gneiss

    Notice how the police absolved the driver of any criminal responsibility before they’d even completed their investigation. They even having the gall to say that they don’t know how fast the driver was going before hitting the child and yet still maintain that it wasn’t criminal to hit her.

    If you are a sociopath who wants to get away with murdering children, just do it in a car.

  14.  

    reasonableexplanation

    Even textured metal is surprisingly slippery when wet. Pavement of either type is better. The paint thing is moot-ish though: this is how a bike lane on a city street should look:
    https://goo.gl/maps/pHAJfAERvvQ2
    No green paint needed: just a curb (or even plastic bollards) to separate it from the travel lanes.

  15.  

    reasonableexplanation

    Queens seems to have a lot more big box stores (and be more car friendly in general), so I fully accept that the off street might work for it. Throughout this discussion I’ve been trying to point out that different policies by boro make the most sense. Queens is far more suburban than Brooklyn, so this makes sense.

  16.  

    AMH

    That photo of the Nissan is shocking; “no criminality” quotes from police even more so. That the girl was killed so near her school makes it likely that the driver was doing 50+ in a 15mph zone. He or she should be in jail.

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    J

  18.  

    reasonableexplanation

    Hard to get to – JFK ?

    From south brooklyn: 1hr35min minimum on public transit, even if you live close to a train line:
    https://goo.gl/maps/Po9BdzexqVA2

    As for the Airport parking lots; look, let’s take today; a random weekday, no holiday, not during vacation season: basically the best case:
    http://www.panynj.gov/airports/airport-parking-lga.cfm
    http://www.panynj.gov/airports/airport-parking-jfk.cfm
    At the time I checked, I’m seeing beetween 50%-80% full at LGA, and about 20%-60% at jfk, depending on lot.

    Now how full are these lots on the weekend? During MLK day weekend? During Christmas week? etc.

    And guess what my estimate of 300 spaces per big box store was low.

    I counted about 270 at the home depot in brooklyn, so there’s a range, apparently.

    Also; red herring? victory dance? Are discussing potential solutions to this city’s transportation issues or are we fighting; what’s going on here?

  19.  

    Maggie

    I didn’t miss that point. I’ve lived on the Upper West Side for seven years without a car. 75% of the local households don’t own cars. Many people, myself included, think a safe bike lane on Amsterdam is vital. A staggering 98% of the people shopping and strolling on Amsterdam Avenue don’t come there by car.

    Feel free to disagree, but it shouldn’t take another Upper West Side funeral to get a safe bike lane. Majorities of the Upper West Side and an incredible number of local businesses are in support. If the tradeoff is 25% of parking spaces / much needed commercial loading zones / a protected bike lane for the people who live and work on Amsterdam Avenue, the choice is clear. I think the people who whine about this maybe don’t realize how myopic they look.

  20.  

    bryduke

    I don’t understand the safety concern. I also cross Amsterdam often and I just wait for the light to change. It works wonders – never had a problem or felt unsafe. I know most New Yorkers just run across the street whenever but, you know, obeying traffic rules ALSO helps with safety and is a lot cheaper and less disruptive.

  21.  

    Ferdinand Cesarano

    It is infuriating that these animal-abusing horse carriage owners are allowed act as though they have any legitimate interests. Their “livelihoods”, my hairy ass. Do governments negotiate with people who run cock-fighting rings, and take account of their “livelihoods”? The fact that society continues to tolerate this form of animal cruelty is nothing short of shameful.

  22.  

    bryduke

    I assume you missed the point about reducing parking spaces by 25% – and that’s NOT counting all the additional spaces reserved for commercial vehicles.

  23.  

    danbrotherston

    While a sign is nice, I doubt it will do anything. No driver is stupid enough to not realize that the green painted area is a bike lane. Drivers in that lane are choosing to be there, because they prioritize their time over the safety, comfort convenience, did I mention safety, of others. Only a physical barrier (preferably one that cars are unable to surmount) will protect it. IMO.

  24.  

    danbrotherston

    And ridiculously expensive, I would guess. I think there is room for an engineered surface of some kind that can house utilities and serve as a sidewalk. Doesn’t need to be strong enough for cars, and the cost savings of not constantly repaving could offset the increased cost. And as a bonus, make it not strong enough to hold a car, and next some some asshole parks on the sidewalk, he’ll fall through and that can be a nice strong incentive to ticket them.

  25.  

    iSkyscraper

    De Blasio is a failure in many ways, but his half-hearted efforts on Vision Zero have at least been better than the zero effort most mayors make in cities across North America. The speed limit change has been a positive move, and anyone who thinks it causes “congestion and frustration” should perhaps spend a little more time understanding a subject before speaking about it.

  26.  

    Brad Aaron

    You went to a lot of trouble, creating a Disqus handle just to make a comment that includes zero facts.

  27.  

    Larry Littlefield

    A special election set for a day very few people will know about so the machines can appoint the replacement.

  28.  

    Maggie

    You’re kidding. There are already fourteen northbound car lanes across the 0.7 mile wide UWS. Four(->three) lanes on Amsterdam Ave, three on Broadway, two on Central Park West, one on West End Avenue, and one on Riverside Drive, double-wide parking lanes on both, not to mention three car lanes on the West Side Highway. One street you can actually drive and park on?? Sure, fine, but we need it with a protected bike lane.

    Amsterdam Avenue needs calmer motor traffic, safer crossings, safer cycling, and a safe place for the local businesses to make bike deliveries.

  29.  

    bryduke

    Strongly opposed – there are already bike lanes on Central Park West, Columbus and very wide side lanes on both sides of West End, not to mention a bike lane all the way up the river. How about one street you can actually drive and park on? We’ve already got more biking options than the UES which is twice the width! Seems more an issue of laziness on behalf of the bikers than safety to me.

  30.  

    AnoNYC

    The MoveNY plan would do wonders to reduce automotive congestion in this area. With the substantial development going on, it’s only going to get more hectic. Reconstructing the streets is a good move though, as long as it’s done right.

  31.  

    mattkime

    show me where speed is actually restricted due to the lowered speed limit

  32.  

    William Farrell

    Having worked with DDC projects, I suspect the reason that the cost is so high is due to sewer and watermain replacements. The DOT can do projects fairly inexpensively, but once you start tearing up the streets for a full redesign, the cost goes up substantially. But the positive is that the municipal infrastructure is updated and the safety improvements can be more holistic and less piecemeal.

  33.  

    Kevin Love

    Don’t hold your breath waiting for either one.

  34.  

    BBnet3000

    That’s the problem though. They’re gonna spend all this money on a capital project and for cycling it’s still going to be paint that is going to wear off.

  35.  

    WoodyinNYC

    “the first major reconstruction of the area’s streets since the early 20th century” — That stuff for motor vehicles costs about $38 million. The green paint n other bike stuff brings it up to $38.47 million.

  36.  

    BBnet3000

    I had a chance to walk pretty far down the west side of 1st Ave today in the late afternoon. The “mixing zones” as designed in New York are such an ambigious space that like all ambiguous spaces in the urban fabric, people just park there. At least during the time I was there it was more of a problem than any turning conflict or blockage that I’ve seen using the lane before.

    Enforcement isn’t coming. We need better design, but that’s not coming either, in fact design only seems to be trending worse.

  37.  

    Joe R.

    That’s all good and well if you live in a place where they actually bother to maintain roads. NYC doesn’t. I’ll take expansion joints over the ruts, ridges, potholes, etc. I see just about everywhere.

  38.  

    Kevin Love

    The CROW engineering design manual for bicycle traffic stipulates asphalt as the best surface. Concrete has to have expansion cracks built in or else it will crack all on its own. Asphalt is smooth.

  39.  

    Bernard Finucane

    It is incredible how badly designed the streets are. The driving lanes on Bath are about twice as wide as they need to be, and the corners are optimized for fast turns. The picture of Bath & 20th shows 3 parked cars blocking visibility at the intersection.

  40.  

    Joe R.

    NYC doesn’t bother to clean the streets throughly (i.e. with muriatic acid and then a thorough rinse with water) before applying the paint. They paint right over dirt. It’s no surprise it disappears so fast.

    The best solution is to make the bike lanes out of colored concrete. Since the color is mixed in, it will never disappear. As a bonus, concrete is far less prone to potholes. Bike tires also roll a bit easier over concrete.

  41.  

    Shemp

    So which will be finished first, this or LIRR East Side Access?

  42.  

    BBnet3000

    Spectacular adhesion of the green paint and bike stencils too. I’ve never seen a city with bike infrastructure that disappears so fast.

    Do you think these folks have that problem?

    http://40.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mab2jsNuih1rct4o9o1_1280.jpg

  43.  

    Brian Howald

    After seeing the headline, I was psyched to hear that bollards had been surreptitiously installed at 59th and 1st. You totally got me, there.

  44.  

    J

    Ah DOT, ever willing to blame someone else for its own laziness:

    Parking in bike path? Poor enforcement (not a failure to properly protect the space)
    Double parking? Poor enforcement (not a failure to properly regulate curb space)
    Sharrows? Not enough space (not a lack of will to remove parking or travel lanes)

  45.  

    Bluewndrpwrmlk96

    I think NYCDOT signs come with serial numbers they agency uses for tracking purposes. But a jersey barrier wouldn’t hurt either.

  46.  

    r

    Nice work. Can DOT follow DOTr’s lead and fix Chrystie Street next?

  47.  

    I walk NY

    Vision Zero is a failure along with Mayor De Blasio! More pedestrians are getting hurt than ever before. This is what happens when the city lowers the speed limit from 30 mph to 25 mph,it causes congestion and frustration for everyone.

  48.  

    Alexander Vucelic

    Snow Emergency; no car storage on avenues and Blvds. saves Tacpaye s millions ( billions ?) by making snow clean up faster and safer, returning all NYs back to work sooner. Many U.S. cities have this policy why not NY ?

  49.  

    Joe R.

    Looks like spaces for easily 2,000 cars in public lots just within a mile of where I live. Queens College and St. John’s alone have a huge amount of parking. That’s not counting the fairly large number of free driveways in private homes. Yes, it’s private property but in a snow emergency many home owners would be happy to rent out unused driveway space (and perhaps even shovel the driveway afterwards for additional money).

  50.  

    Alexander Vucelic