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	<title>Comments on: Months After Traffic Deaths, NYPD Denies Access to Crash Information</title>
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		<title>By: Dave Pagl</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/11/months-after-traffic-deaths-nypd-denies-access-to-crash-information/comment-page-1/#comment-236361</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Pagl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Apr 2010 20:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding any civil suits, Solange Raulston&#039;s family is interested in exploring whether there is a basis for a wrongful death suit relating to her accident/death at Nassau and McGuiness last December. We do have an initial police report with little information there, and we are now looking for eyewitnesses to the accident or anyone who was present at the scene of the accident in its immediate aftermath. Please leave your contact info in email to davepagl@gmail.com. Thanks for caring. Dave P.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding any civil suits, Solange Raulston&#8217;s family is interested in exploring whether there is a basis for a wrongful death suit relating to her accident/death at Nassau and McGuiness last December. We do have an initial police report with little information there, and we are now looking for eyewitnesses to the accident or anyone who was present at the scene of the accident in its immediate aftermath. Please leave your contact info in email to <a href="mailto:davepagl@gmail.com">davepagl@gmail.com</a>. Thanks for caring. Dave P.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric McClure</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/11/months-after-traffic-deaths-nypd-denies-access-to-crash-information/comment-page-1/#comment-218781</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, let me echo archie&#039;s comment above -- noble work, and keep dogging them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, let me echo archie&#8217;s comment above &#8212; noble work, and keep dogging them.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine berthet</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/11/months-after-traffic-deaths-nypd-denies-access-to-crash-information/comment-page-1/#comment-218561</link>
		<dc:creator>Christine berthet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 15:56:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not yet but I understand DOT is close to publishing it .see rudin journal of transportation</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not yet but I understand DOT is close to publishing it .see rudin journal of transportation</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/11/months-after-traffic-deaths-nypd-denies-access-to-crash-information/comment-page-1/#comment-218101</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link and the info, Christine.  Do you know if the report described in the law, that was supposed to be issued in August 2009, was ever issued?  I don&#039;t remember seeing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link and the info, Christine.  Do you know if the report described in the law, that was supposed to be issued in August 2009, was ever issued?  I don&#8217;t remember seeing it.</p>
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		<title>By: christine berthet</title>
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		<dc:creator>christine berthet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 16:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BRAVO for this initiative: Interesting , crashes ARE NOT treated as CRIMES, but indeed when we want information , then ...oh Well.. 

We have found that the most  effective way to get that info is through elected officials and DOT Which is subject to local law 19-180 that we worked on in 2008 

http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=447127&amp;GUID=F8B7D92C-D55C-4BC6-B102-453292D61CA5&amp;Options=ID%7cText%7c&amp;Search=567

It requires a study of crash locations within 6 months of the crash. Obviously police reports would have to be part of this study. 

finally Please include in your inquiry the hit and run  crash at 40th and 9th (end of 2008) , where a garbage hauling truck hit a  woman never stopped , was found later on in the Bronx by the cops and ... LET GO ...... So much for hit and run ... 
WE never got to the bottom of this one... with conflicting reports ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BRAVO for this initiative: Interesting , crashes ARE NOT treated as CRIMES, but indeed when we want information , then &#8230;oh Well.. </p>
<p>We have found that the most  effective way to get that info is through elected officials and DOT Which is subject to local law 19-180 that we worked on in 2008 </p>
<p><a href="http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=447127&#038;GUID=F8B7D92C-D55C-4BC6-B102-453292D61CA5&#038;Options=ID%7cText%7c&#038;Search=567" rel="nofollow">http://legistar.council.nyc.gov/LegislationDetail.aspx?ID=447127&#038;GUID=F8B7D92C-D55C-4BC6-B102-453292D61CA5&#038;Options=ID%7cText%7c&#038;Search=567</a></p>
<p>It requires a study of crash locations within 6 months of the crash. Obviously police reports would have to be part of this study. </p>
<p>finally Please include in your inquiry the hit and run  crash at 40th and 9th (end of 2008) , where a garbage hauling truck hit a  woman never stopped , was found later on in the Bronx by the cops and &#8230; LET GO &#8230;&#8230; So much for hit and run &#8230;<br />
WE never got to the bottom of this one&#8230; with conflicting reports &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/11/months-after-traffic-deaths-nypd-denies-access-to-crash-information/comment-page-1/#comment-217511</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lawyers in civil suits can get the information.  But the broader public has a right to timely information as well.  Not months or years after the investigation. NYPD&#039;s stonewalling will cost lives, as dangerous undisclosed conditions continue to cause crashes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawyers in civil suits can get the information.  But the broader public has a right to timely information as well.  Not months or years after the investigation. NYPD&#8217;s stonewalling will cost lives, as dangerous undisclosed conditions continue to cause crashes.</p>
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		<title>By: Boris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 22:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are any of the ten cases figuring in civil suits? At least one of the ten drivers must have some cash in the bank.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are any of the ten cases figuring in civil suits? At least one of the ten drivers must have some cash in the bank.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:30:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This appears to be the law:
http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/libdev/excerpts/pbo87.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This appears to be the law:<br />
<a href="http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/libdev/excerpts/pbo87.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nysl.nysed.gov/libdev/excerpts/pbo87.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: DingDong</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/11/months-after-traffic-deaths-nypd-denies-access-to-crash-information/comment-page-1/#comment-217181</link>
		<dc:creator>DingDong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can you post the Code section that they cited?  It doesn&#039;t make sense if we don&#039;t know what the Code section says.  I will note that it is entirely normal (and, frankly, somewhat understandable) that records relating to ongoing investigations are not released.  I say this as someone who has been on the plaintiffs&#039; side of a number of FOIA lawsuits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can you post the Code section that they cited?  It doesn&#8217;t make sense if we don&#8217;t know what the Code section says.  I will note that it is entirely normal (and, frankly, somewhat understandable) that records relating to ongoing investigations are not released.  I say this as someone who has been on the plaintiffs&#8217; side of a number of FOIA lawsuits.</p>
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		<title>By: archie</title>
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		<dc:creator>archie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 19:02:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you&#039;re doing noble work. keep it up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you&#8217;re doing noble work. keep it up.</p>
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