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	<title>Comments on: Streetfilms: Michael Musto, Il Ciclista Dolce</title>
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		<title>By: sikiş</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-262811</link>
		<dc:creator>sikiş</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 11:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Musto has never had a driver&#039;s license, and he tells us the bicycle is an advantage in his profession. Although he&#039;s had his share of bikes stolen (he recommends buying a used, cheap bike), he has nothing but positivity and praise for the velocipede:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Musto has never had a driver&#8217;s license, and he tells us the bicycle is an advantage in his profession. Although he&#8217;s had his share of bikes stolen (he recommends buying a used, cheap bike), he has nothing but positivity and praise for the velocipede:</p>
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		<title>By: Tokyokevin</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-222511</link>
		<dc:creator>Tokyokevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 10:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If riding a bike has become too banal, too mainstream, try a recumbent. I&#039;ve been riding one in Tokyo for 10 years. Works great and is easy on the crotch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If riding a bike has become too banal, too mainstream, try a recumbent. I&#8217;ve been riding one in Tokyo for 10 years. Works great and is easy on the crotch.</p>
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		<title>By: jdixon</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-222251</link>
		<dc:creator>jdixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael, great video. But perhaps raise your seat height a bit for better pedalling efficiency. Any bike shop will be able to help. Ride in good health!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael, great video. But perhaps raise your seat height a bit for better pedalling efficiency. Any bike shop will be able to help. Ride in good health!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason A</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-222141</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another vote for seeing a Streetsfilm on Bill Cunningham.  That man is a marvel.  Love that guy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another vote for seeing a Streetsfilm on Bill Cunningham.  That man is a marvel.  Love that guy!</p>
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		<title>By: Pyrrah</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-221971</link>
		<dc:creator>Pyrrah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 16:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the saddle on his bike is set too low. Raising it a bit should make it easier to exert force on the pedals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the saddle on his bike is set too low. Raising it a bit should make it easier to exert force on the pedals.</p>
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		<title>By: Pamberjack</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-221771</link>
		<dc:creator>Pamberjack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 04:39:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Screw saving the planet, Michael more concerned about arriving at work &quot;glowing&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Screw saving the planet, Michael more concerned about arriving at work &#8220;glowing&#8221;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric McClure</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218801</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and putting aside whatever else Michael Musto may or may not do while on his bike, this &lt;i&gt;is&lt;/i&gt; a great advertisement for cycling in NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and putting aside whatever else Michael Musto may or may not do while on his bike, this <i>is</i> a great advertisement for cycling in NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric McClure</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218791</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 03:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The sharrowed portion of Brooklyn&#039;s Fifth Avenue isn&#039;t really all that long, and the way the lights are timed, a car is only going to get a few blocks before catching a red signal.  I say take the lane and ignore the honking, or, if you prefer, pull aside where it&#039;s safe and let them pass.  You&#039;re going to catch up to them anyway.  Once construction gets going in earnest for Ratner&#039;s arena, Fifth Avenue will be impassable to anyone but peds, anyway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The sharrowed portion of Brooklyn&#8217;s Fifth Avenue isn&#8217;t really all that long, and the way the lights are timed, a car is only going to get a few blocks before catching a red signal.  I say take the lane and ignore the honking, or, if you prefer, pull aside where it&#8217;s safe and let them pass.  You&#8217;re going to catch up to them anyway.  Once construction gets going in earnest for Ratner&#8217;s arena, Fifth Avenue will be impassable to anyone but peds, anyway.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218471</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:13:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are other people who know much more about the SAS construction process and the extent it will cause surface disruption than I, but as an observer who rides Second Ave, it seems there is extensive disruption, less due to excavation than to storage of heavy equipment (though there is plenty of excavation too).  Sidewalks have been shortened in multiple segments to preserve 4 traffic lanes while equipment occupies 3+ lanes.  The disruption may lessen when they get the mole machine down there and it does it&#039;s thing boring the tunnel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are other people who know much more about the SAS construction process and the extent it will cause surface disruption than I, but as an observer who rides Second Ave, it seems there is extensive disruption, less due to excavation than to storage of heavy equipment (though there is plenty of excavation too).  Sidewalks have been shortened in multiple segments to preserve 4 traffic lanes while equipment occupies 3+ lanes.  The disruption may lessen when they get the mole machine down there and it does it&#8217;s thing boring the tunnel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 02:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BO:  Great.  I figured as much.

Relatedly, do you happen to know how extensive the surface construction will be for SAS?  I was under the impression that, aside from the station caverns and the launch box, there wouldn&#039;t be a whole lot of disruption to the surface.  In between those locations, would there be room and opportunity for bike lanes?  Or am I totally wrong?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BO:  Great.  I figured as much.</p>
<p>Relatedly, do you happen to know how extensive the surface construction will be for SAS?  I was under the impression that, aside from the station caverns and the launch box, there wouldn&#8217;t be a whole lot of disruption to the surface.  In between those locations, would there be room and opportunity for bike lanes?  Or am I totally wrong?</p>
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		<title>By: Gwin</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218401</link>
		<dc:creator>Gwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jass: your idea that drivers will correctly interpret and adhere to the rules of sharrows is admirably idealized. The reality is that most drivers are jerks who aren&#039;t going to wait behind a bike that is in all likelihood not going as fast as they would like to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jass: your idea that drivers will correctly interpret and adhere to the rules of sharrows is admirably idealized. The reality is that most drivers are jerks who aren&#8217;t going to wait behind a bike that is in all likelihood not going as fast as they would like to.</p>
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		<title>By: jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218381</link>
		<dc:creator>jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;so there is actually NO way to get safely around a larger bike (i.e. in this case, one with a trailer carrying an infant!), even when the cyclist is riding next to the curb. If the cyclist rides in the middle and there&#039;s nowhere to pass, that&#039;s just going to lead to a lot of angry drivers which leads to road rage and possible danger for both cyclists and pedestrians.&quot;

That&#039;s why sharrows were invented. Ideally, they&#039;d be matched with signs that say &quot;Cyclist may take full lane&quot; (this is an approved sign). The whole point of a sharrow is to say &quot;This lane is too narrow to pass, but is a busy cyclist route. Cyclists: Take full lane. Cars: Be aware that cyclists are entitled to take full lane&quot;

As for road rage, again, the sharrows are supposed to help that. A driver stuck behind a bike is less likely to yell &quot;get off the road&quot; if a sharrow makes it very clear that the bike is exactly where he should be.



&quot;I&#039;m not defending the drivers here, I&#039;m just saying it&#039;s a unrealistic scenario for that particular avenue given its narrowness, and that cyclists would be better off finding a wider avenue. I&#039;m constantly going slightly out of my way in favor of a safer route. It&#039;s worth it.&quot;

For you it may be worth it, but how about a cyclist with business on that street? Bike infrastructure should be on every street, not just along the river, or where it happens to fit. If a sharrow was put in that street, it says that cyclists use that route for whatever reason. That&#039;s not going to change by removing the markings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;so there is actually NO way to get safely around a larger bike (i.e. in this case, one with a trailer carrying an infant!), even when the cyclist is riding next to the curb. If the cyclist rides in the middle and there&#8217;s nowhere to pass, that&#8217;s just going to lead to a lot of angry drivers which leads to road rage and possible danger for both cyclists and pedestrians.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s why sharrows were invented. Ideally, they&#8217;d be matched with signs that say &#8220;Cyclist may take full lane&#8221; (this is an approved sign). The whole point of a sharrow is to say &#8220;This lane is too narrow to pass, but is a busy cyclist route. Cyclists: Take full lane. Cars: Be aware that cyclists are entitled to take full lane&#8221;</p>
<p>As for road rage, again, the sharrows are supposed to help that. A driver stuck behind a bike is less likely to yell &#8220;get off the road&#8221; if a sharrow makes it very clear that the bike is exactly where he should be.</p>
<p>&#8220;I&#8217;m not defending the drivers here, I&#8217;m just saying it&#8217;s a unrealistic scenario for that particular avenue given its narrowness, and that cyclists would be better off finding a wider avenue. I&#8217;m constantly going slightly out of my way in favor of a safer route. It&#8217;s worth it.&#8221;</p>
<p>For you it may be worth it, but how about a cyclist with business on that street? Bike infrastructure should be on every street, not just along the river, or where it happens to fit. If a sharrow was put in that street, it says that cyclists use that route for whatever reason. That&#8217;s not going to change by removing the markings.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218371</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 01:35:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, we&#039;re on the same team.  In fact, there&#039;s been quite a bit of citizen letter writing activity by TA East Side Committee this week geared toward eliminating the midtown (CB6) Design C elements.
The message to DoT at CB8 was, convert Design C to Design B, in the construction zone think outside the box and do something to protect cyclists in this 30-block gap during SAS construction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, we&#8217;re on the same team.  In fact, there&#8217;s been quite a bit of citizen letter writing activity by TA East Side Committee this week geared toward eliminating the midtown (CB6) Design C elements.<br />
The message to DoT at CB8 was, convert Design C to Design B, in the construction zone think outside the box and do something to protect cyclists in this 30-block gap during SAS construction.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Epstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 23:02:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BO, that may be fine for the construction zone on Second Ave, where traffic tends to move (more or less).  What I was primarily talking about was the midtown section where they plan Option C.  In those sections (First Ave from 49th to 61st, and Second Ave from 68th to 34th), traffic tends to move much slower, if at all.  For a significant portion of the time, it is not feasible to take a lane because in so doing you won&#039;t get anywhere.  In such cases, sharrows don&#039;t provide any meaningful advantage at all.

In reality, where traffic is stop-and-go in the sharrowed lane and there is a relatively clear bike lane, there is no question that most cyclists in the real world will ride in the bike lane.  That&#039;s bad for everyone cyclists and bus riders alike.  And that&#039;s the direct consequence of DOT&#039;s failure to provide reserved street space for cyclists in these heavily congested areas.

It&#039;s especially bad that the approach to the Queensboro Bridge on First Ave won&#039;t have any meaningful provision for bicyclists.  Cyclists will still be funneled into a dangerous roadway that alternates between stop-and-go and aggressive driving (depending on the time of day), with no meaningful bike accommodations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BO, that may be fine for the construction zone on Second Ave, where traffic tends to move (more or less).  What I was primarily talking about was the midtown section where they plan Option C.  In those sections (First Ave from 49th to 61st, and Second Ave from 68th to 34th), traffic tends to move much slower, if at all.  For a significant portion of the time, it is not feasible to take a lane because in so doing you won&#8217;t get anywhere.  In such cases, sharrows don&#8217;t provide any meaningful advantage at all.</p>
<p>In reality, where traffic is stop-and-go in the sharrowed lane and there is a relatively clear bike lane, there is no question that most cyclists in the real world will ride in the bike lane.  That&#8217;s bad for everyone cyclists and bus riders alike.  And that&#8217;s the direct consequence of DOT&#8217;s failure to provide reserved street space for cyclists in these heavily congested areas.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s especially bad that the approach to the Queensboro Bridge on First Ave won&#8217;t have any meaningful provision for bicyclists.  Cyclists will still be funneled into a dangerous roadway that alternates between stop-and-go and aggressive driving (depending on the time of day), with no meaningful bike accommodations.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:19:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike,

It does seem that the sharrows go in where the traffic is most intense, but I think that may merely reflect the fact that sharrows are used to provide some minimal degree of protection to cyclists in intense traffic situations where there is simply not enough lateral space for a motorist and a bicyclist side by side (about 15 feet).  But when the sharrow is off center and there is no explicit statement as to what sharrows mean (or even worse, the posting of the side-by-side sign linked in my comment above), the motorists think &quot;sharing the road&quot; means the cyclist must ride to the right of the motorist in whatever space s/he finds there, and cannot impede the motorist by taking the lane.  

I agree that a sharrow up the middle even with explicit signage that cyclists should occupy the full lane still is not enough to embolden many novice or timid cyclists, but I would take such a lane when escorting my kids, and I think the majority of cyclists would.  and remeber that we are talking about a gap in an otherwise continuous cycling track running from Houston to 125th--novice cyclists may well learn to feel comfortable taking such a lane if they see experienced cyclists right there doing it.  

As for the cyclists&#039; ability to both take a lane or to manuever around the motor vehicle traffic in a lane at will, there&#039;s no reason to think that  sharrows, wherever placed,  limit cyclists&#039; options.

It will be dangerous and unfortunate if timid or novice cyclists use the bus lanes.  The best answer is to have a continuous cycle track with no gaps, but for the area from 69th to 100th Streets on Second Avenue, it&#039;s hard to justify building a cycle track when the street is going to be dug up for the SAS.  One person at the CB proposed using orange traffic barrrels to create a temporary protected lane, as on Centre street by the courthouse.  However DoT at present seems unwilling to give up any of the lanes in the Second Avenue construction zone to create a protected space for cyclists.  doT representatives even claimed last night that there could be no painting of bus lanes in the construction zone.  I think a low-speed turning lane painted green with a 10-15 MPH limit, sharrows up the middle, and signage allowing cyclists the use of an entire lane may be the best feasible interim solution in the construction zone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike,</p>
<p>It does seem that the sharrows go in where the traffic is most intense, but I think that may merely reflect the fact that sharrows are used to provide some minimal degree of protection to cyclists in intense traffic situations where there is simply not enough lateral space for a motorist and a bicyclist side by side (about 15 feet).  But when the sharrow is off center and there is no explicit statement as to what sharrows mean (or even worse, the posting of the side-by-side sign linked in my comment above), the motorists think &#8220;sharing the road&#8221; means the cyclist must ride to the right of the motorist in whatever space s/he finds there, and cannot impede the motorist by taking the lane.  </p>
<p>I agree that a sharrow up the middle even with explicit signage that cyclists should occupy the full lane still is not enough to embolden many novice or timid cyclists, but I would take such a lane when escorting my kids, and I think the majority of cyclists would.  and remeber that we are talking about a gap in an otherwise continuous cycling track running from Houston to 125th&#8211;novice cyclists may well learn to feel comfortable taking such a lane if they see experienced cyclists right there doing it.  </p>
<p>As for the cyclists&#8217; ability to both take a lane or to manuever around the motor vehicle traffic in a lane at will, there&#8217;s no reason to think that  sharrows, wherever placed,  limit cyclists&#8217; options.</p>
<p>It will be dangerous and unfortunate if timid or novice cyclists use the bus lanes.  The best answer is to have a continuous cycle track with no gaps, but for the area from 69th to 100th Streets on Second Avenue, it&#8217;s hard to justify building a cycle track when the street is going to be dug up for the SAS.  One person at the CB proposed using orange traffic barrrels to create a temporary protected lane, as on Centre street by the courthouse.  However DoT at present seems unwilling to give up any of the lanes in the Second Avenue construction zone to create a protected space for cyclists.  doT representatives even claimed last night that there could be no painting of bus lanes in the construction zone.  I think a low-speed turning lane painted green with a 10-15 MPH limit, sharrows up the middle, and signage allowing cyclists the use of an entire lane may be the best feasible interim solution in the construction zone.</p>
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		<title>By: Gwin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gwin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:12:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jass and BicyclesOnly: I don&#039;t live out there, but if I recally correctly, the sharrows were to the side on the pavement. Also, as BO pointed out, 5th Avenue is indeed a 2-way street with only one lane for each side and heavy traffic, so there is actually NO way to get safely around a larger bike (i.e. in this case, one with a trailer carrying an infant!), even when the cyclist is riding next to the curb. If the cyclist rides in the middle and there&#039;s nowhere to pass, that&#039;s just going to lead to a lot of angry drivers which leads to road rage and possible danger for both cyclists and pedestrians. 

I&#039;m not defending the drivers here, I&#039;m just saying it&#039;s a unrealistic scenario for that particular avenue given its narrowness, and that cyclists would be better off finding a wider avenue. I&#039;m constantly going slightly out of my way in favor of a safer route. It&#039;s worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jass and BicyclesOnly: I don&#8217;t live out there, but if I recally correctly, the sharrows were to the side on the pavement. Also, as BO pointed out, 5th Avenue is indeed a 2-way street with only one lane for each side and heavy traffic, so there is actually NO way to get safely around a larger bike (i.e. in this case, one with a trailer carrying an infant!), even when the cyclist is riding next to the curb. If the cyclist rides in the middle and there&#8217;s nowhere to pass, that&#8217;s just going to lead to a lot of angry drivers which leads to road rage and possible danger for both cyclists and pedestrians. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not defending the drivers here, I&#8217;m just saying it&#8217;s a unrealistic scenario for that particular avenue given its narrowness, and that cyclists would be better off finding a wider avenue. I&#8217;m constantly going slightly out of my way in favor of a safer route. It&#8217;s worth it.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:25:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pleasantly surprised here that we went from a potential re-tread of the helmet vs. no helmet debate to a debate over sharrows and driving!</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Epstein</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218131</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 21:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey BO,

The real problem here, in my opinion, is that the places where DOT proposes to put sharrows are areas with huge traffic backups.  In reality, bikes won&#039;t take a lane when taking a lane means being stuck behind stop-and-go traffic.  They&#039;ll do what they do today: lane-split, merge with abandon, etc.  That&#039;s fine for expert riders, but really hard for timid riders or kids.  And a lot of riders will end up riding in the bus lane to avoid battling with cars, which will slow down buses and cause dangerous situations by mixing with theoretically fast-moving traffic in the bus lane (assuming the bus lanes are actually kept clear somehow).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey BO,</p>
<p>The real problem here, in my opinion, is that the places where DOT proposes to put sharrows are areas with huge traffic backups.  In reality, bikes won&#8217;t take a lane when taking a lane means being stuck behind stop-and-go traffic.  They&#8217;ll do what they do today: lane-split, merge with abandon, etc.  That&#8217;s fine for expert riders, but really hard for timid riders or kids.  And a lot of riders will end up riding in the bus lane to avoid battling with cars, which will slow down buses and cause dangerous situations by mixing with theoretically fast-moving traffic in the bus lane (assuming the bus lanes are actually kept clear somehow).</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218091</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:46:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jass, in practice I agree with you--I take the lane on a sharrowed roadway--but DoT has published no explicit guidance to the public as to what sharrows are or mean.  And often DoT puts the sharrows not up the center of the lane, but to the right hand side, seeming to suggest that cyclists shoudlnot be taking the lane.  As for changing lanes to pass, that&#039;s not feasible on 5th Ave. in Brooklyn, since (at least the last time I was there) It was two-way with a single lane in iether direction and a theoretically uncrossable double yellow up the middle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jass, in practice I agree with you&#8211;I take the lane on a sharrowed roadway&#8211;but DoT has published no explicit guidance to the public as to what sharrows are or mean.  And often DoT puts the sharrows not up the center of the lane, but to the right hand side, seeming to suggest that cyclists shoudlnot be taking the lane.  As for changing lanes to pass, that&#8217;s not feasible on 5th Ave. in Brooklyn, since (at least the last time I was there) It was two-way with a single lane in iether direction and a theoretically uncrossable double yellow up the middle.</p>
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		<title>By: jass</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/streetfilms-michael-musto-il-ciclista-dolce/comment-page-1/#comment-218071</link>
		<dc:creator>jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gwin, as BicyclesOnly said, sharrows are meant to mark exactly when a lane is too narrow to share. You&#039;re supposed to pass them by changing lanes. Sharrows are to encourage a cyclist to use the middle of the lane, exactly so those in large vehicles don&#039;t try to pass within the same lane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gwin, as BicyclesOnly said, sharrows are meant to mark exactly when a lane is too narrow to share. You&#8217;re supposed to pass them by changing lanes. Sharrows are to encourage a cyclist to use the middle of the lane, exactly so those in large vehicles don&#8217;t try to pass within the same lane.</p>
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