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	<title>Comments on: City Planning Can Set the Bar Higher on Fourth Avenue</title>
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		<title>By: eh?</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/city-planning-can-set-the-bar-higher-on-fourth-avenue/comment-page-1/#comment-218741</link>
		<dc:creator>eh?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 23:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike Lydon - &quot;You don&#039;t get mixed-use if you don&#039;t require mixed-use&quot;?  Are you making Wendell Cox&#039;s arguments for him? :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Lydon &#8211; &#8220;You don&#8217;t get mixed-use if you don&#8217;t require mixed-use&#8221;?  Are you making Wendell Cox&#8217;s arguments for him? <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JW</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/city-planning-can-set-the-bar-higher-on-fourth-avenue/comment-page-1/#comment-216621</link>
		<dc:creator>JW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2010 06:39:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>portland requires in the city center all ground floor spaces to be retail or designed for a future conversion to retail. if they can do it in portland, they can do it in nyc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>portland requires in the city center all ground floor spaces to be retail or designed for a future conversion to retail. if they can do it in portland, they can do it in nyc.</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 23:03:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, please tell me I read this wrong.  We&#039;re not really allowing ground level parking in Park Slope in 2010, are we?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, please tell me I read this wrong.  We&#8217;re not really allowing ground level parking in Park Slope in 2010, are we?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Dutton</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2010/03/10/city-planning-can-set-the-bar-higher-on-fourth-avenue/comment-page-1/#comment-216441</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Dutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 22:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My question was a more-direct phrasing of the one referred to above, and I wish it was my version to put DCP on the spot. It was along the lines of, &quot;Don&#039;t minimum parking restrictions actually force developers to create the very same dead-street environment that everyone is here to lament? Don&#039;t they functionally prohibit ground-floor retail?&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question was a more-direct phrasing of the one referred to above, and I wish it was my version to put DCP on the spot. It was along the lines of, &#8220;Don&#8217;t minimum parking restrictions actually force developers to create the very same dead-street environment that everyone is here to lament? Don&#8217;t they functionally prohibit ground-floor retail?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lydon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Lydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:50:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You don&#039;t get mixed-use if you don&#039;t require mixed-use. Thus, retail or not, any developer with an architect worth his license should be able to design attractive, habitable space along the ground floor. 

However, if the city zoning code has no teeth, which apparently it doesn&#039;t, then said developer clearly has little incentive to do so, especially if he is also dealing with  parking requirements. Indeed, I am sure the developer rather rent out the ground floor than be forced to subsidize tenant parking space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You don&#8217;t get mixed-use if you don&#8217;t require mixed-use. Thus, retail or not, any developer with an architect worth his license should be able to design attractive, habitable space along the ground floor. </p>
<p>However, if the city zoning code has no teeth, which apparently it doesn&#8217;t, then said developer clearly has little incentive to do so, especially if he is also dealing with  parking requirements. Indeed, I am sure the developer rather rent out the ground floor than be forced to subsidize tenant parking space.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 21:11:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Bloomberg, tear down this wall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Bloomberg, tear down this wall.</p>
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		<title>By: Westchesterite</title>
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		<dc:creator>Westchesterite</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:18:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many Westchester residents were families priced out of Park Slope, and miss the walkability.  These developers are idiots if they think people want a car-based lifestyle.  Most of us suburbanites were sad to have to leave Park Slope.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many Westchester residents were families priced out of Park Slope, and miss the walkability.  These developers are idiots if they think people want a car-based lifestyle.  Most of us suburbanites were sad to have to leave Park Slope.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:56:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious, why is it &quot;Hard to compel retail&quot; in NYC. Other cities compel retail all the time. Who is running the show here, developers or the Department of City Planning? The Crest on 4th is an anti-pedestrian, urban planning abomination. 

Take a look at the picture of the Boulder, Colorado parking garage wrapped in attractive retail pictured in the 2/23 Streetsblog piece &quot;Want to Foster Walking, Biking and Transit? You Need Good Parking Policy.&quot; How is it a dinky western city gets this and NYC does not?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious, why is it &#8220;Hard to compel retail&#8221; in NYC. Other cities compel retail all the time. Who is running the show here, developers or the Department of City Planning? The Crest on 4th is an anti-pedestrian, urban planning abomination. </p>
<p>Take a look at the picture of the Boulder, Colorado parking garage wrapped in attractive retail pictured in the 2/23 Streetsblog piece &#8220;Want to Foster Walking, Biking and Transit? You Need Good Parking Policy.&#8221; How is it a dinky western city gets this and NYC does not?</p>
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		<title>By: Eric McClure</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A temporarily vacant storefront is far preferable to a permanent air vent or blank wall.  There will be plenty of demand for retail as these buildings fill up, and vibrant retail would actually be an amenity that could spur higher rents or sales prices.  City Planning is attempting to lay blame on developers rather than where it clearly belongs -- at their own feet, for butchering the rezoning, and the city&#039;s misguided minimum-parking requirements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A temporarily vacant storefront is far preferable to a permanent air vent or blank wall.  There will be plenty of demand for retail as these buildings fill up, and vibrant retail would actually be an amenity that could spur higher rents or sales prices.  City Planning is attempting to lay blame on developers rather than where it clearly belongs &#8212; at their own feet, for butchering the rezoning, and the city&#8217;s misguided minimum-parking requirements.</p>
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