Comments on: Police Academy 2: Starring a 3,000-Car Garage

By: NABH

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By: NewPA

NewPA — Fri, 15 Jan 2010 15:46:25 +0000

Queens is actually the easiest borough to get to from the other boroughs. To get to the current academy you have to cross a bridge, no matter where you come from except Manhattan. It’s a rather short trip from the Bronx & Manhattan. Now you’ll be able to get there from Queens & Brooklyn without a bridge. As for parking….everyone loves to complain about the parking problem around city facilities, but then here’s more complaining when a parking facility is being built. I guess another housing complex with 10,000 more people is more suitable to some of you. NYC is over-populated already, it doesn’t need more housing units.

By: Cap'n Transit

Cap'n Transit — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 19:23:59 +0000

Nobody’s forgetting bus routes. There’s a big difference between taking any of eight train lines (or ten bus routes) to Union Square and walking a few blocks, and taking one of two trains (the #7 or the LIRR) 15-30 minutes from Manhattan and then transferring to a bus.

And a facility that attracts thousands of car trips a day is probably much worse for the community than a brownfield.

By: thatgirlinnyc

thatgirlinnyc — Mon, 28 Dec 2009 17:55:36 +0000

Guys, you’re forgetting bus routes – those do go right to the site. Also, the site is a brownfield, previously housing the vast, monstrous NYPA tow pound and other industrial uses. Putting the academy there will allow it to positively contribute to the community…what was College Point getting out of a 30-acre parking lot for abandoned cars??

By: Ian Dutton

Ian Dutton — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:53:40 +0000

Sounds like a fabulously sneaky way to make sure that the recruits include as few city-dwelling minorities as possible: essentially require that they already own a car just to get to training.

Where’s Al Sharpton or Charles Barron on this one?

By: Erin

Erin — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 15:45:20 +0000

This proposed building and location perfectly illustrate the limitations of the LEED accreditation procedure: Under some LEED schemes (for example LEED NC for New Construction), a project can be LEED certified even if lacks amenities some of us might consider necessary for a project to be environmentally responsible. This project wouldn’t get a point under LEED NC for “Sustainable Sites Credit 4.1 – Alternative Transportation, Public Transportation Access”. But from the perspective of the designers, who cares? There are plenty of other points the project could easily get and it ends up with LEED Silver status anyway.

I rather grudgingly got my LEED Certification and am a LEED Accredited Professional. I say “rather grudgingly” because I think the system doesn’t require nearly enough to actually improve our built environment. I wish it weren’t becoming the standard for green building because it preserves way too much of the status quo. If you work the credits right, you can build in nearly the same suburban way you always have.

A while back, when I told my manager I didn’t want to become LEED certified, he said, “But you’re the greenest of all of us here!” I responded, “Exactly.”

LEED is kind of like USDA Organic. Watered down.

By: W. K. Lis

W. K. Lis — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 02:20:57 +0000

2,000 recruits. 3,000 parking spots. New York City.

What’s wrong with this picture. If it was Oklahoma City, I would understand, maybe even Los Angeles, but New York City!

By: Eric McClure

Eric McClure — Tue, 22 Dec 2009 00:01:39 +0000

Nice. Cops with a windshield perspective for generations to come.

By: Mr Bad Example

Mr Bad Example — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:52:23 +0000

The location also isn’t conducive to people driving in from Manhattan, The Bronx, or Staten Island (they’ll all get hit with big tolls). I don’t think there’s any Brooklyn/queens bound bus service that would cover this–and once you start doing bus transfers, you can forget about a short commute.

So this was built in College Point to accommodate the Queens and Long Island based cadets and instructors. Because there’s no usable land in a depressed area in, say, the Bronx. Riiiight.

On a related note on LEED,Santa Monica is the home of the first LEED certified parking garage (an immensely ugly thing–it’s Motel six meets Curtain Wall). So LEED has come to mean whatever the heck you want it to mean.

Not bitter.

By: Stacy

Stacy — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:49:15 +0000

Whens become an appropriate setting for suburban-style office “parks”? Maybe when Bloomberg and Kelly resigned themselves to recruiting from the suburbs in Long Island. I’ll bet that new location is very convenient to the LIE.

By: Urbanis

Urbanis — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:42:07 +0000

Since when did Queens become an appropriate setting for suburban-style office “parks”?

By: Urbanis

Urbanis — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 21:40:43 +0000

I am horrified by that enormous parking wasteland surrounding the building; what a waste of urban space!

By: Anon

Anon — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 20:38:38 +0000

And let’s not forget the Bronx Zoo’s planned garage (or “Intermodal Transportation Facility”), to be funded by the Federal Transit Administration.

By: Mike Lydon

Mike Lydon — Mon, 21 Dec 2009 18:34:30 +0000

Schizophrenia is not only to be found in the decision to move this facility that far from public transit, but also in its LEED rating. Indeed, while the building may earn LEED silver (wahoo?) its siting would likely not even garner a certification from LEED-ND, which includes strict provisions for Location Efficiency, i.e. transit coverage.

Also, the rendering makes it appear that there will be hundreds more parking spaces in addition to the 3,000 car garage.