Comments on: $266 Million to Widen the Deegan. Crumbs for a More Livable Bronx River. http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Douglas Willinger http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-161141 Douglas Willinger Mon, 23 Nov 2009 20:34:07 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-161141 "The Bronx is the poorest borough in the city and as such is often taken advantage of. Imagine what this 266 million could get if it were spend on Health care, eduction, cross bronx subway service, or really anything that is accessible and helps the lower income population of the Bronx." The highways play a significent role in the economy in jobs, such as the Hunts Point area industries. Widening lower I-87 is most sensible for such things as a bypas of the western CBE, and should be done as a cut and cover tunnel NOW while the land is still open, and then build development atop. Why not instead transfer the money from the obscene war-domestic spying-population traking and drug war cigarette prtectionism instead? Strange how so many progressives would instead protect those things. “The Bronx is the poorest borough in the city and as such is often taken advantage of. Imagine what this 266 million could get if it were spend on Health care, eduction, cross bronx subway service, or really anything that is accessible and helps the lower income population of the Bronx.”

The highways play a significent role in the economy in jobs, such as the Hunts Point area industries. Widening lower I-87 is most sensible for such things as a bypas of the western CBE, and should be done as a cut and cover tunnel NOW while the land is still open, and then build development atop.

Why not instead transfer the money from the obscene war-domestic spying-population traking and drug war cigarette prtectionism instead? Strange how so many progressives would instead protect those things.

]]> By: Noah http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-161061 Noah Mon, 23 Nov 2009 18:54:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-161061 Mark, the area is served by transit, but the Deegan does not serve the area. The Deegan mostly serves White Suburban residents who have no desire to stop in the Bronx. The Bronx is the poorest borough in the city and as such is often taken advantage of. Imagine what this 266 million could get if it were spend on Health care, eduction, cross bronx subway service, or really anything that is accessible and helps the lower income population of the Bronx. Mark, the area is served by transit, but the Deegan does not serve the area. The Deegan mostly serves White Suburban residents who have no desire to stop in the Bronx. The Bronx is the poorest borough in the city and as such is often taken advantage of. Imagine what this 266 million could get if it were spend on Health care, eduction, cross bronx subway service, or really anything that is accessible and helps the lower income population of the Bronx.

]]> By: Douglas Willinger http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-160811 Douglas Willinger Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:31:30 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-160811 "Waterfront boulevard, anyone?" Its good enough for the Trump devlopemnt between 57th and 72nd Streets in a true cosmopolitan manner. http://cos-mobile.blogspot.com/2008/05/nyc-west-side-highway-in-box.html “Waterfront boulevard, anyone?”

Its good enough for the Trump devlopemnt between 57th and 72nd Streets in a true cosmopolitan manner.

http://cos-mobile.blogspot.com/2008/05/nyc-west-side-highway-in-box.html

]]> By: Cap'n Transit http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-160361 Cap'n Transit Sat, 21 Nov 2009 02:44:37 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-160361 Waterfront boulevard, anyone? If it's good enough for San Francisco and Seattle it should be good enough for the South Bronx. Waterfront boulevard, anyone? If it’s good enough for San Francisco and Seattle it should be good enough for the South Bronx.

]]> By: Cap'n Transit http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159791 Cap'n Transit Fri, 20 Nov 2009 14:22:15 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159791 <blockquote>Whose idea is this? Who at State DOT is advocating this?</blockquote> I'd be interested to know this, but it's a side issue. The State DOT is part of the executive branch and works for the Governor. The Commissioner resigned a few months ago, and the Governor <a href="http://www.observer.com/2009/real-estate/pay-dispute-drives-paterson%E2%80%99s-dot-pick-road#" rel="nofollow">does not seem to be</a> making his choice of a replacement based on livable streets issues. The next state DOT commissioner could do as much for livable streets in the region as Sadik-Khan has done. Streetsblog <a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/category/special-features/weinshall-watch/" rel="nofollow">had more than twenty posts</a> covering the search for a successor to Iris Weinshall, and at least five on Obama's choice for Transportation Secretary, and I think it paid off. We could get similar results with a few posts about the State DOT. As <a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/12/were-hiring-cover-the-capitol-for-streetsblog/#comment-64566" rel="nofollow">I commented back in March</a>, it's nice to have a livable streets perspective on Federal issues, but a Streetsblog reporter at Empire State Plaza would shine desperately needed light on developments that have a tremendous impact on the region.

Whose idea is this? Who at State DOT is advocating this?

I’d be interested to know this, but it’s a side issue. The State DOT is part of the executive branch and works for the Governor. The Commissioner resigned a few months ago, and the Governor does not seem to be making his choice of a replacement based on livable streets issues.

The next state DOT commissioner could do as much for livable streets in the region as Sadik-Khan has done. Streetsblog had more than twenty posts covering the search for a successor to Iris Weinshall, and at least five on Obama’s choice for Transportation Secretary, and I think it paid off. We could get similar results with a few posts about the State DOT.

As I commented back in March, it’s nice to have a livable streets perspective on Federal issues, but a Streetsblog reporter at Empire State Plaza would shine desperately needed light on developments that have a tremendous impact on the region.

]]> By: Douglas Willinger http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159621 Douglas Willinger Fri, 20 Nov 2009 05:16:45 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159621 "A quarter-billion to widen a single road, in a place served by transit, in the twilight of the automobile era. Wow." Reminds me of stuff as this: http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2009/04/doctrinaire-anti-new-highways-position.html “A quarter-billion to widen a single road, in a place served by transit, in the twilight of the automobile era. Wow.”

Reminds me of stuff as this:

http://wwwtripwithinthebeltway.blogspot.com/2009/04/doctrinaire-anti-new-highways-position.html

]]> By: Jason A http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159601 Jason A Fri, 20 Nov 2009 02:16:37 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159601 The state is broke, it can't even repair the roads/bridges we have now, and we're *expanding* capacity to dump more cars into the densest, most transit-friendly city in the country? The state is broke, it can’t even repair the roads/bridges we have now, and we’re *expanding* capacity to dump more cars into the densest, most transit-friendly city in the country?

]]> By: Marty Barfowitz http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159561 Marty Barfowitz Fri, 20 Nov 2009 01:01:41 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159561 Whose idea is this? Who at State DOT is advocating this? Who are the lobbyists or politicians that are pushing it? How does a project like this get prioritized at NY State DOT? What is their process? Heads need to roll. Whose idea is this? Who at State DOT is advocating this? Who are the lobbyists or politicians that are pushing it? How does a project like this get prioritized at NY State DOT? What is their process?

Heads need to roll.

]]> By: vnm http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159541 vnm Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:43:31 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159541 It is beyond incomprehensible that this is even being considered given the huge state deficits. If you have to rehabilitation the viaduct - do so. But PLEASE, do not expand roadway capacity and encourage traffic in New York City. It is beyond incomprehensible that this is even being considered given the huge state deficits. If you have to rehabilitation the viaduct – do so. But PLEASE, do not expand roadway capacity and encourage traffic in New York City.

]]> By: W. K. Lis http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159511 W. K. Lis Fri, 20 Nov 2009 00:10:28 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159511 And they complain there is little money for public transit! And they complain there is little money for public transit!

]]> By: Benjamin Kabak http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159461 Benjamin Kabak Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:13:55 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159461 Simply absurd. What avenues of protest are available? Pushing our representatives, legal challenges, etc.? Simply absurd. What avenues of protest are available? Pushing our representatives, legal challenges, etc.?

]]> By: The Dynamic Mumeshantz & Quilbert http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159451 The Dynamic Mumeshantz & Quilbert Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:01:13 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159451 This HAS to be stopped. THIS is madness. There should be a giant protest where we get every livable streets advocate from all over the city to show up. I mean the asthma part alone? We need to demand justice!!! This HAS to be stopped. THIS is madness. There should be a giant protest where we get every livable streets advocate from all over the city to show up. I mean the asthma part alone? We need to demand justice!!!

]]> By: Mark Walker http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/19/266-million-to-widen-the-deegan-crumbs-for-a-more-livable-bronx-river/comment-page-1/#comment-159441 Mark Walker Thu, 19 Nov 2009 22:43:47 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=96241#comment-159441 A quarter-billion to widen a single road, in a place served by transit, in the twilight of the automobile era. Wow. A quarter-billion to widen a single road, in a place served by transit, in the twilight of the automobile era. Wow.

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