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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Building Cities Shouldn&#8217;t Be a Partisan Issue&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Cambridge Building Material Supplies</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/16/building-cities-shouldnt-be-a-partisan-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-157321</link>
		<dc:creator>Cambridge Building Material Supplies</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 09:40:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“Building Cities Shouldn’t Be a Partisan Issue”

Thanks for sharing</description>
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<p>Thanks for sharing</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Workman</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/16/building-cities-shouldnt-be-a-partisan-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-157261</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Workman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2009 03:47:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Borrowing a Krugman quote: &quot;It&#039;s the stupidity economy.&quot; What made me think of that quote is the fact that regarding issues of partisanship, much boils down to what is going increase GDP the most. Inefficiency (carbon, cancer, roads, wars, herpes, etc.) is expensive, but they make money. They bolster GDP, and when you view the world through that lens, anything that gets in the way of making money &amp; increasing GDP is bad. Politicians of the right do seem more entrenched in inefficient patterns in my opinion. 

The talking points that make their way down to the commoners on the right tend to center around how: planning; transit; land use regulation and taxation, is a force against their freedoms. They aren&#039;t invested in the notion of an increase in GDP and could care less about it. Their concerns lie in being able to drive where they want, cheaply. 

Those of the regressive persuasion approach the issue from two different vantages, battling to grow GDP (profit) for those at the top and the ill-conceived notion that planning is somehow going to restrict freedom.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Borrowing a Krugman quote: &#8220;It&#8217;s the stupidity economy.&#8221; What made me think of that quote is the fact that regarding issues of partisanship, much boils down to what is going increase GDP the most. Inefficiency (carbon, cancer, roads, wars, herpes, etc.) is expensive, but they make money. They bolster GDP, and when you view the world through that lens, anything that gets in the way of making money &amp; increasing GDP is bad. Politicians of the right do seem more entrenched in inefficient patterns in my opinion. </p>
<p>The talking points that make their way down to the commoners on the right tend to center around how: planning; transit; land use regulation and taxation, is a force against their freedoms. They aren&#8217;t invested in the notion of an increase in GDP and could care less about it. Their concerns lie in being able to drive where they want, cheaply. </p>
<p>Those of the regressive persuasion approach the issue from two different vantages, battling to grow GDP (profit) for those at the top and the ill-conceived notion that planning is somehow going to restrict freedom.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/11/16/building-cities-shouldnt-be-a-partisan-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-157151</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We own a one-family home.  It&#039;s called a [blue]co-op[/blue].

I&#039;m also interested to hear about these attractive Communist hi-rises.  All that I&#039;ve seen in photos has been pretty uninspiring.  Not like, say, the prewar Art Deco high-rises along the Grand Concourse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We own a one-family home.  It&#8217;s called a [blue]co-op[/blue].</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also interested to hear about these attractive Communist hi-rises.  All that I&#8217;ve seen in photos has been pretty uninspiring.  Not like, say, the prewar Art Deco high-rises along the Grand Concourse.</p>
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		<title>By: Homeowner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Homeowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:08:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one-family home is still the ideal for most [blue]Americans[/blue].</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one-family home is still the ideal for most [blue]Americans[/blue].</p>
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		<title>By: Comrade X</title>
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		<dc:creator>Comrade X</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 22:03:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;d like to point out that a great deal of the high-rise housing erected east of the Iron Curtain was very attractive and still occupied by appreciative residents.&quot;

Oh really? I guess you also believe that the Rosenbergs were innocent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I&#8217;d like to point out that a great deal of the high-rise housing erected east of the Iron Curtain was very attractive and still occupied by appreciative residents.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh really? I guess you also believe that the Rosenbergs were innocent.</p>
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		<title>By: Niccolo Machiavelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niccolo Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here here comrade Bauman.  Those were actual Socialists not &quot;Progressives&quot;. Vincent Gentile is a Progressive, just ask him.  Give me an old-fashioned class conscious Socialist anytime, please.

Remember, Mike Quill broke with the Communist Party over fare increases.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here here comrade Bauman.  Those were actual Socialists not &#8220;Progressives&#8221;. Vincent Gentile is a Progressive, just ask him.  Give me an old-fashioned class conscious Socialist anytime, please.</p>
<p>Remember, Mike Quill broke with the Communist Party over fare increases.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex Bauman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex Bauman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:58:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d like to point out that a great deal of the high-rise housing erected east of the Iron Curtain was very attractive and still occupied by appreciative residents.  Neither the more ideologically-confused governments (such as ours) nor free-market capitalists have proven incapable of erecting an ugly, unpopular building (Pruitt-Igoe, Wal-Mart).

Also I&#039;d like to point out that London, Paris, Munich, Madrid, Amsterdam, and Copenhagen have all been ruled by Socialists in the last 50 years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d like to point out that a great deal of the high-rise housing erected east of the Iron Curtain was very attractive and still occupied by appreciative residents.  Neither the more ideologically-confused governments (such as ours) nor free-market capitalists have proven incapable of erecting an ugly, unpopular building (Pruitt-Igoe, Wal-Mart).</p>
<p>Also I&#8217;d like to point out that London, Paris, Munich, Madrid, Amsterdam, and Copenhagen have all been ruled by Socialists in the last 50 years.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 17:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just another reason why many fair-minded conservatives are as disgusted with the Republicans as fair minded progressives are with New York State&#039;s Democrats.

Older central cities were built before the onset of restrictive land use regulation.  That&#039;s when mass transit systems were established.

Modern suburbs were created by massive federal infrastructure investment (ie. federal money for new suburban water and sewer systems) and restrictive regulations.

The &quot;return to the cities&quot; renaisance, such that it is, picked up steam during the Reagan Administration, even though Reagan didn&#039;t like cities and sought to do them no favors.  Why? Because federal investment in economic infrastucture in the suburbs and poverty infrastructure in the cities was cut.

I can tell you for certain that developers want to maximize permitted units per acre.  In fairness, however, they also prefer to cut costs by eliminating sidewalks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just another reason why many fair-minded conservatives are as disgusted with the Republicans as fair minded progressives are with New York State&#8217;s Democrats.</p>
<p>Older central cities were built before the onset of restrictive land use regulation.  That&#8217;s when mass transit systems were established.</p>
<p>Modern suburbs were created by massive federal infrastructure investment (ie. federal money for new suburban water and sewer systems) and restrictive regulations.</p>
<p>The &#8220;return to the cities&#8221; renaisance, such that it is, picked up steam during the Reagan Administration, even though Reagan didn&#8217;t like cities and sought to do them no favors.  Why? Because federal investment in economic infrastucture in the suburbs and poverty infrastructure in the cities was cut.</p>
<p>I can tell you for certain that developers want to maximize permitted units per acre.  In fairness, however, they also prefer to cut costs by eliminating sidewalks.</p>
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		<title>By: jsd</title>
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		<dc:creator>jsd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:49:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To the GOP leader, all of those places are just as bad as East Berlin and the Soviet Union. 

Also, to answer the question presented in the post: The ideology of fear will win...in the short term. I am afraid we are in for some extremely painful times ahead. But America just can&#039;t support the prevailing lifestyle for much longer. The adjustments will be made. But it&#039;s gonna get uglier before it gets any better.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To the GOP leader, all of those places are just as bad as East Berlin and the Soviet Union. </p>
<p>Also, to answer the question presented in the post: The ideology of fear will win&#8230;in the short term. I am afraid we are in for some extremely painful times ahead. But America just can&#8217;t support the prevailing lifestyle for much longer. The adjustments will be made. But it&#8217;s gonna get uglier before it gets any better.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that lots of ugly high-rises were built in East Berlin doesn&#039;t mean that all such developments have to be eyesores.  What terrible logic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that lots of ugly high-rises were built in East Berlin doesn&#8217;t mean that all such developments have to be eyesores.  What terrible logic.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:28:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the GOP leader, transit evokes East Berlin and the Soviet Union. For me it evokes London, Paris, Munich, Madrid, Amsterdam, Copenhagen...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the GOP leader, transit evokes East Berlin and the Soviet Union. For me it evokes London, Paris, Munich, Madrid, Amsterdam, Copenhagen&#8230;</p>
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