<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?><rss version="2.0"
	xmlns:content="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/content/"
	xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/"
	xmlns:atom="http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom"
	xmlns:sy="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/syndication/"
		>
<channel>
	<title>Comments on: Vance Renews Traffic Safety Pledge at Meeting of Legal Minds</title>
	<atom:link href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/27/vance-renews-traffic-safety-pledge-at-meeting-of-legal-minds/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" />
	<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/27/vance-renews-traffic-safety-pledge-at-meeting-of-legal-minds/</link>
	<description>Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance</description>
	<lastBuildDate>Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000</lastBuildDate>
	<sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod>
	<sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency>
	<generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator>
	<item>
		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/27/vance-renews-traffic-safety-pledge-at-meeting-of-legal-minds/comment-page-1/#comment-144321</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=78491#comment-144321</guid>
		<description>First, hats off to Peter Goldwasser at TA for taking the campaign to hold dangerous drivers accountable in such a smart direction. Advocates (Including DA&#039;s like the outstanding Maureen McCormick)have spent decades trying to get the recalcitrant state legislature to toughen laws and have had only modest success. This focus on the DA&#039;s is much more immediate and promising. Their is only one DA per borough versus many legislators who can pass the buck. Second, my sense is that Manhattan has lagged behind the Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn in prosecuting vehicular crimes. So, having a Manhattan DA who cares will be a big help --- especially because Manhattan is the media focal point of the nation and the importance of any prosecution here is amplified.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, hats off to Peter Goldwasser at TA for taking the campaign to hold dangerous drivers accountable in such a smart direction. Advocates (Including DA&#8217;s like the outstanding Maureen McCormick)have spent decades trying to get the recalcitrant state legislature to toughen laws and have had only modest success. This focus on the DA&#8217;s is much more immediate and promising. Their is only one DA per borough versus many legislators who can pass the buck. Second, my sense is that Manhattan has lagged behind the Bronx, Queens and Brooklyn in prosecuting vehicular crimes. So, having a Manhattan DA who cares will be a big help &#8212; especially because Manhattan is the media focal point of the nation and the importance of any prosecution here is amplified.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/27/vance-renews-traffic-safety-pledge-at-meeting-of-legal-minds/comment-page-1/#comment-144311</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=78491#comment-144311</guid>
		<description>Good point, BicyclesOnly.  I would say that the risk of driving a motor vehicle in the city is more like that of firing an automatic weapon.  You can kill multiple people with a single pull of the trigger, and if you put down a loaded machine gun it&#039;s possible for it to kill people while you&#039;re not there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good point, BicyclesOnly.  I would say that the risk of driving a motor vehicle in the city is more like that of firing an automatic weapon.  You can kill multiple people with a single pull of the trigger, and if you put down a loaded machine gun it&#8217;s possible for it to kill people while you&#8217;re not there.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: Lance</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/27/vance-renews-traffic-safety-pledge-at-meeting-of-legal-minds/comment-page-1/#comment-144281</link>
		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:07:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=78491#comment-144281</guid>
		<description>yes, Vance will be the Manhattan DA but new traffic efforts will only be effective if they&#039;re done in all 5 boroughs, and he said his strategy will include working with the other DA&#039;s. Smart, because I&#039;ve never seen someone speed through Manhattan and slow down in the Bronx, or vice versa. We can all be part of a citywide solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yes, Vance will be the Manhattan DA but new traffic efforts will only be effective if they&#8217;re done in all 5 boroughs, and he said his strategy will include working with the other DA&#8217;s. Smart, because I&#8217;ve never seen someone speed through Manhattan and slow down in the Bronx, or vice versa. We can all be part of a citywide solution.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/27/vance-renews-traffic-safety-pledge-at-meeting-of-legal-minds/comment-page-1/#comment-144231</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=78491#comment-144231</guid>
		<description>My favorite part of the event:  Ray Thomas&#039; analysis that we cannot afford to analyze vehicular crimes using the same notions of culpability that we use for other violent crimes, because of the much greater likelihood of causing grave harm with an automobile to a large number of people through a small lapse of judgment or caution compared to the lapse necessary to cause an equal amount of harm with another instrument.  

I have often analogized on this blog the risk of driving a motor vehicle in a pedestrian-rich urban environment to that of firing a gun in the same kind of environment.  Ray opened my eyes.  Driving poses a far, far greater risk.  You can&#039;t kill multiple people with a single shot of a gun, like that drunken/drugged mother in Westchester killed all those kids.  You can&#039;t put down a gun and have it kill people while you aren&#039;t operating it, like that van that hopped the curb and killed those kids in Chinatown.  How can we regulate guns so strictly in the city--and rightly so--without recognizing the need to regulate driving even more strictly?

Another point of equal importance was made by the panelists:  each time a new cyclist goes out on the road, his or her family and friends become potential allies in the fight to protect vulnerable road users. Cy Vance mentioned his own son commuting by bike in Manhattan as a powerful factor motivating his concern for the safety of cyclists and pedestrians.  Cyclists understand about &quot;safety in numbers&quot; on the road, but there is a &quot;strength in numbers&quot; effect for each new cyclist that is equally important to the cause of cycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My favorite part of the event:  Ray Thomas&#8217; analysis that we cannot afford to analyze vehicular crimes using the same notions of culpability that we use for other violent crimes, because of the much greater likelihood of causing grave harm with an automobile to a large number of people through a small lapse of judgment or caution compared to the lapse necessary to cause an equal amount of harm with another instrument.  </p>
<p>I have often analogized on this blog the risk of driving a motor vehicle in a pedestrian-rich urban environment to that of firing a gun in the same kind of environment.  Ray opened my eyes.  Driving poses a far, far greater risk.  You can&#8217;t kill multiple people with a single shot of a gun, like that drunken/drugged mother in Westchester killed all those kids.  You can&#8217;t put down a gun and have it kill people while you aren&#8217;t operating it, like that van that hopped the curb and killed those kids in Chinatown.  How can we regulate guns so strictly in the city&#8211;and rightly so&#8211;without recognizing the need to regulate driving even more strictly?</p>
<p>Another point of equal importance was made by the panelists:  each time a new cyclist goes out on the road, his or her family and friends become potential allies in the fight to protect vulnerable road users. Cy Vance mentioned his own son commuting by bike in Manhattan as a powerful factor motivating his concern for the safety of cyclists and pedestrians.  Cyclists understand about &#8220;safety in numbers&#8221; on the road, but there is a &#8220;strength in numbers&#8221; effect for each new cyclist that is equally important to the cause of cycling.</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
	<item>
		<title>By: L P</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/27/vance-renews-traffic-safety-pledge-at-meeting-of-legal-minds/comment-page-1/#comment-144001</link>
		<dc:creator>L P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:04:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=78491#comment-144001</guid>
		<description>What portion of those 300 road deaths happen in Manhattan?  Isn&#039;t he just the Manhattan DA?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What portion of those 300 road deaths happen in Manhattan?  Isn&#8217;t he just the Manhattan DA?</p>
]]></content:encoded>
	</item>
</channel>
</rss>

