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	<title>Comments on: NYCDOT Ups the Livable Streets Ante in Revised Strategic Plan</title>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-144141</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 08:37:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#17 Justin Lee Miller,  &quot;Bike sharing doesn&#039;t really address the &quot;bridge &amp; tunnel&quot; crowd . . . &quot;

Thanks for some insight on Velib.  Granted a lot of tourists would be more likely to use bikeshare across the Brooklyn Bridge which which connects two major transit cachements making it more suitable to the bridge and tunnel crowd.  Also, traveling from Penn Station to Grand Central Station would probably make high use of the bikeshare program.

Advanced systems which increase the level of ease-of-use, speed, and range would be more suitable for the bridge and tunnel crowd.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#17 Justin Lee Miller,  &#8220;Bike sharing doesn&#8217;t really address the &#8220;bridge &amp; tunnel&#8221; crowd . . . &#8220;</p>
<p>Thanks for some insight on Velib.  Granted a lot of tourists would be more likely to use bikeshare across the Brooklyn Bridge which which connects two major transit cachements making it more suitable to the bridge and tunnel crowd.  Also, traveling from Penn Station to Grand Central Station would probably make high use of the bikeshare program.</p>
<p>Advanced systems which increase the level of ease-of-use, speed, and range would be more suitable for the bridge and tunnel crowd.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Lee Miller</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-144011</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Lee Miller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 03:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A note on bike sharing.  The Velibe system in Paris is nice, but 1) It doesn&#039;t take the cars from the suburbs out of the traffic mix.  2) Is used mostly by tourists and those who already use transit.  3) Fills in great when the subway stops running from 1AM to 5AM.  4) People love to take them from stations at the top of hills, then take the Metro back uphill.  If you live at the top of a hill (eg, 17th arr.) you have to wait for new bikes to be trucked in periodically.  (The city spends a lot of time trucking around bikes.)  I can see the same thing happening in NYC.  Bike sharing doesn&#039;t really address the &quot;bridge &amp; tunnel&quot; crowd, although it&#039;s bound to be quite popular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A note on bike sharing.  The Velibe system in Paris is nice, but 1) It doesn&#8217;t take the cars from the suburbs out of the traffic mix.  2) Is used mostly by tourists and those who already use transit.  3) Fills in great when the subway stops running from 1AM to 5AM.  4) People love to take them from stations at the top of hills, then take the Metro back uphill.  If you live at the top of a hill (eg, 17th arr.) you have to wait for new bikes to be trucked in periodically.  (The city spends a lot of time trucking around bikes.)  I can see the same thing happening in NYC.  Bike sharing doesn&#8217;t really address the &#8220;bridge &amp; tunnel&#8221; crowd, although it&#8217;s bound to be quite popular.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-143721</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 18:00:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Matt,

Just check the New York Post. Do a search for &quot;times square&quot; or &quot;broadway&quot; on their web site, or review the archives of &quot;Today&#039;s Headlines&quot; on Streetsblog. You&#039;ll find lots of angry ranting about these closures. I think one headline described them as &quot;Stupidest Idea Ever&quot;.

Cheers,

--Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt,</p>
<p>Just check the New York Post. Do a search for &#8220;times square&#8221; or &#8220;broadway&#8221; on their web site, or review the archives of &#8220;Today&#8217;s Headlines&#8221; on Streetsblog. You&#8217;ll find lots of angry ranting about these closures. I think one headline described them as &#8220;Stupidest Idea Ever&#8221;.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>&#8211;Ian</p>
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		<title>By: matt bikes</title>
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		<dc:creator>matt bikes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 12:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m organizing a panel discussion on the closure of Broadway to most vehicular traffic.  Can anyone think of someone who is opposed to the closure?  I&#039;m having trouble identifying someone who wants to argue that it is a bad idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m organizing a panel discussion on the closure of Broadway to most vehicular traffic.  Can anyone think of someone who is opposed to the closure?  I&#8217;m having trouble identifying someone who wants to argue that it is a bad idea.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One major improvement would be extensive integration of private bicycle accommodations with MTA bus and subway systems to include attended and non-attended bike parking and bike racks on buses to provide highly enhanced resilient mobility at minimum cost.

The MTA has a huge amount of street furniture in subway entrances, elevated lines, and bus shelters and it would be simply a question of making them dual-use to accommodate bikes.  

Similarly underground, members of the Transit Workers Union (TWU) may find additional employment as bicycle attendants and other related services for subterranean bike parking.  More advanced systems would allow workers do their jobs above ground with automated storage below.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One major improvement would be extensive integration of private bicycle accommodations with MTA bus and subway systems to include attended and non-attended bike parking and bike racks on buses to provide highly enhanced resilient mobility at minimum cost.</p>
<p>The MTA has a huge amount of street furniture in subway entrances, elevated lines, and bus shelters and it would be simply a question of making them dual-use to accommodate bikes.  </p>
<p>Similarly underground, members of the Transit Workers Union (TWU) may find additional employment as bicycle attendants and other related services for subterranean bike parking.  More advanced systems would allow workers do their jobs above ground with automated storage below.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 18:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#12 Doug Irvine,  &quot;. . .  showers . . . &quot;

It is likely that the showers issue is somewhat overblown.  Probably something white collar workers who work in offices tend to feel is a big issue even though subway stations can be as much as 110 degrees and extremely uncomfortable and cyclists have a certain amount of natural airconditioning similar to having a fan blowing on them with winds often 10 miles per hour and more; and even then, this is largely only a summer issue.

Also, it is not really necessary to race to work and cycling at 3 to 4 times the rate one would normally walk would probably not cause people to build up much of a sweat unless they normally race walk.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#12 Doug Irvine,  &#8220;. . .  showers . . . &#8220;</p>
<p>It is likely that the showers issue is somewhat overblown.  Probably something white collar workers who work in offices tend to feel is a big issue even though subway stations can be as much as 110 degrees and extremely uncomfortable and cyclists have a certain amount of natural airconditioning similar to having a fan blowing on them with winds often 10 miles per hour and more; and even then, this is largely only a summer issue.</p>
<p>Also, it is not really necessary to race to work and cycling at 3 to 4 times the rate one would normally walk would probably not cause people to build up much of a sweat unless they normally race walk.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Irvine</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-140881</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Irvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 17:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any plans to reduce street parking?  My idea is to do this, which would be a gift to parking garages and in exchange, require them to provide indoor secure bike parking (maybe for free).

Some of them might even install showers for a reasonable membership fee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any plans to reduce street parking?  My idea is to do this, which would be a gift to parking garages and in exchange, require them to provide indoor secure bike parking (maybe for free).</p>
<p>Some of them might even install showers for a reasonable membership fee.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-140831</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 16:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s great news, Kim!  Thanks for the info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s great news, Kim!  Thanks for the info.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim Wiley-Schwartz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kim Wiley-Schwartz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 13:19:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Cap&#039;n Transit:  &quot;make sidewalk extensions standard&quot;.  

The new Street Redesign Manual makes this so!  Crossings for pedestrians must be narrowed in the specs, with sidewalk extensions being the norm.  My impression is that when any street needs repair, or is dug up, it will need to be replaced with these new standards.  In our part of Brooklyn, it is happening everywhere, although I have a feeling that is part of the Downtown Brooklyn Traffic Calming plan.

And because I&#039;m the education geek I should say that there are actually about 1200 public schools in total  - which makes it all the more important that traffic be slowed at as many of these schools as possible - it would have a large impact on city speeds in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Cap&#8217;n Transit:  &#8220;make sidewalk extensions standard&#8221;.  </p>
<p>The new Street Redesign Manual makes this so!  Crossings for pedestrians must be narrowed in the specs, with sidewalk extensions being the norm.  My impression is that when any street needs repair, or is dug up, it will need to be replaced with these new standards.  In our part of Brooklyn, it is happening everywhere, although I have a feeling that is part of the Downtown Brooklyn Traffic Calming plan.</p>
<p>And because I&#8217;m the education geek I should say that there are actually about 1200 public schools in total  &#8211; which makes it all the more important that traffic be slowed at as many of these schools as possible &#8211; it would have a large impact on city speeds in general.</p>
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		<title>By: PaulCJr</title>
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		<dc:creator>PaulCJr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 02:01:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we&#039;re going to promote more bike commuting, then we need to have some kind of shower/clean up facility. To be frank, I work up a sweat riding. I can&#039;t just towel off and put on a suit. I need a shower after a ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#8217;re going to promote more bike commuting, then we need to have some kind of shower/clean up facility. To be frank, I work up a sweat riding. I can&#8217;t just towel off and put on a suit. I need a shower after a ride.</p>
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		<title>By: dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Oct 2009 00:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Slightly off topic but...Increased number of bikers are great but where are these people coming from? Are these ex-pedestrians, ex-transit riders or ex-drivers. I suspect a mix of the 1st 2 in which case its nice that it maybe reduces transit over crowding but it doesnt help with congestion, pollution, traffic deaths, parking space, etc, etc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Slightly off topic but&#8230;Increased number of bikers are great but where are these people coming from? Are these ex-pedestrians, ex-transit riders or ex-drivers. I suspect a mix of the 1st 2 in which case its nice that it maybe reduces transit over crowding but it doesnt help with congestion, pollution, traffic deaths, parking space, etc, etc</p>
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		<title>By: Car Free Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-140261</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Free Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, can we move parkSmart to residential neighborhoods?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, can we move parkSmart to residential neighborhoods?</p>
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		<title>By: B-Boro</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-140251</link>
		<dc:creator>B-Boro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 21:00:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The book says 75 &quot;by 2010.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The book says 75 &#8220;by 2010.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: J. Mork</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-140241</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Did you ever thing you would see politicians pandering to the &quot;livable streets&quot; crowd before an election!?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Did you ever thing you would see politicians pandering to the &#8220;livable streets&#8221; crowd before an election!?</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-140231</link>
		<dc:creator>glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, aren&#039;t there like 2000-3000 public schools alone in NYC and then hundreds of private ones as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, aren&#8217;t there like 2000-3000 public schools alone in NYC and then hundreds of private ones as well?</p>
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		<title>By: Car Free Nation</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/23/nycdot-ups-the-livable-streets-ante-in-revised-strategic-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-140221</link>
		<dc:creator>Car Free Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:40:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s triple what we have, but isn&#039;t 75 school zones a really low target?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s triple what we have, but isn&#8217;t 75 school zones a really low target?</p>
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		<title>By: glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:30:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bike share is really, really the key to boosting bike mode share. It would make biking ubiquitous and improve travel time for many, many areas of NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bike share is really, really the key to boosting bike mode share. It would make biking ubiquitous and improve travel time for many, many areas of NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Oct 2009 20:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is there anything that would address &lt;a href=&quot;http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2009/10/five-things-that-sadik-khan-can-do-for.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;these five things&lt;/a&gt;?

Remove the barricades
Make sidewalk extensions standard
Summer Streets across the Manhattan Bridge
Widen Penn Station sidewalks
Loading zones on every block

I hope that the Manhattan Bridge is one of the &quot;additional areas.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is there anything that would address <a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2009/10/five-things-that-sadik-khan-can-do-for.html" rel="nofollow">these five things</a>?</p>
<p>Remove the barricades<br />
Make sidewalk extensions standard<br />
Summer Streets across the Manhattan Bridge<br />
Widen Penn Station sidewalks<br />
Loading zones on every block</p>
<p>I hope that the Manhattan Bridge is one of the &#8220;additional areas.&#8221;</p>
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