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		<title>By: Moocow</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/13/todays-headlines-751/comment-page-1/#comment-134061</link>
		<dc:creator>Moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 10:31:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kaja, I got arrested at CM in 2005, I was supposedly blocking both sidewalks and three lanes of traffic on 17th street. Because I wasn&#039;t blocking traffic, and because I believe cops shouldn&#039;t make laws, and because multiple cops including Paul Browne, the head liar of the NYPD, said I would not be bothered with if I didn&#039;t break the law, I went. I feel CM had a purpose, I have been to court more than 10 times to fight the City&#039;s false charge against me, and i would do it again. I have no proof, but I feel mine and the more than 700 other arrests at CM, mostly dropped or thrown out, got us these bike lanes, and bike boxes. But that is an entirely different and tired debate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kaja, I got arrested at CM in 2005, I was supposedly blocking both sidewalks and three lanes of traffic on 17th street. Because I wasn&#8217;t blocking traffic, and because I believe cops shouldn&#8217;t make laws, and because multiple cops including Paul Browne, the head liar of the NYPD, said I would not be bothered with if I didn&#8217;t break the law, I went. I feel CM had a purpose, I have been to court more than 10 times to fight the City&#8217;s false charge against me, and i would do it again. I have no proof, but I feel mine and the more than 700 other arrests at CM, mostly dropped or thrown out, got us these bike lanes, and bike boxes. But that is an entirely different and tired debate.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaja</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/13/todays-headlines-751/comment-page-1/#comment-133771</link>
		<dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 22:18:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, it is a sea of bitching. Everyone involved is a d-bag, starting with Critical Mass participants through riders without lights to cops roadblocking the parade and arresting people the lightless for lacking ID.

The lesson here it to stay far, far away from both Critical Mass and the police.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, it is a sea of bitching. Everyone involved is a d-bag, starting with Critical Mass participants through riders without lights to cops roadblocking the parade and arresting people the lightless for lacking ID.</p>
<p>The lesson here it to stay far, far away from both Critical Mass and the police.</p>
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		<title>By: Moocow</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/13/todays-headlines-751/comment-page-1/#comment-133701</link>
		<dc:creator>Moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 21:21:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t complain about being busted riding your bike, while actually breaking the law and deserving a ticket. Complain when, as often happens, cops bust you for something false. Busting you for not having some piece of gear like lights or a bell when you have them etc.  From my commuting experience, there are a lot Brooklyn riders that need lights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t complain about being busted riding your bike, while actually breaking the law and deserving a ticket. Complain when, as often happens, cops bust you for something false. Busting you for not having some piece of gear like lights or a bell when you have them etc.  From my commuting experience, there are a lot Brooklyn riders that need lights.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 20:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unbelivevable.

http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091013/FREE/910139985/-1#

&quot;Michigan’s participation in a coalition of states pursuing federal dollars for a Midwest high-speed rail system isn’t a threat to the automobile industry, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood said this afternoon.&quot; 

&quot;LaHood spoke today at Detroit’s Masonic Temple as a guest of the Detroit Economic Club, offering a generally sunny outlook on the domestic auto industry and Michigan’s economic recovery while also briefly talking about mass transit.&quot;

Who asked the man that question?  And how dead does Michigan have to be before it starts thinking of the future instead of clinging to the past?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelivevable.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091013/FREE/910139985/-1#" rel="nofollow">http://www.crainsdetroit.com/article/20091013/FREE/910139985/-1#</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Michigan’s participation in a coalition of states pursuing federal dollars for a Midwest high-speed rail system isn’t a threat to the automobile industry, U.S. Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood said this afternoon.&#8221; </p>
<p>&#8220;LaHood spoke today at Detroit’s Masonic Temple as a guest of the Detroit Economic Club, offering a generally sunny outlook on the domestic auto industry and Michigan’s economic recovery while also briefly talking about mass transit.&#8221;</p>
<p>Who asked the man that question?  And how dead does Michigan have to be before it starts thinking of the future instead of clinging to the past?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 19:20:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not illegal to lack ID; but a cop who suspects you of a crime may detain you until you&#039;re ID&#039;d. This typically involves rotting in a precinct house for six to forty-eight hours, often in a cell with actual felons.

Welcome to America, 2009. Thanks, everyone who got us here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not illegal to lack ID; but a cop who suspects you of a crime may detain you until you&#8217;re ID&#8217;d. This typically involves rotting in a precinct house for six to forty-eight hours, often in a cell with actual felons.</p>
<p>Welcome to America, 2009. Thanks, everyone who got us here.</p>
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		<title>By: jass</title>
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		<dc:creator>jass</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 18:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: Brooklyn Critical Mass

While the police presence is definitely uncalled for, I welcome tickets for bikes without lights. They&#039;re dangerous not only to themselves but others. 

We talk about the windshield perspective a lot here, but in this case, it&#039;s a good learning experience. Drive (or be driven) in a car at night and see how hard it is to spot bikes without lights on. Reflectors help, but depending on the angle they may not work at all. Same goes for pedestrians. We can obviously see the car with its bright lights, but they may not see you due to glare or other car lights.  This is especially true in the rain.

Also, in the story, is it really illegal to not carry ID in NYC? How has that law/policy not been sued out of existence?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: Brooklyn Critical Mass</p>
<p>While the police presence is definitely uncalled for, I welcome tickets for bikes without lights. They&#8217;re dangerous not only to themselves but others. </p>
<p>We talk about the windshield perspective a lot here, but in this case, it&#8217;s a good learning experience. Drive (or be driven) in a car at night and see how hard it is to spot bikes without lights on. Reflectors help, but depending on the angle they may not work at all. Same goes for pedestrians. We can obviously see the car with its bright lights, but they may not see you due to glare or other car lights.  This is especially true in the rain.</p>
<p>Also, in the story, is it really illegal to not carry ID in NYC? How has that law/policy not been sued out of existence?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding luggage racks on the M60, county-run buses to SFO airport used to have these kinds of racks also. Then an airport van service sued, asserting &quot;unfair competition&quot;, and the racks were removed. They were replaced with a &quot;luggage policy&quot; specifying how much luggage a passenger could bring on board.

I hope we don&#039;t have the same outcome here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding luggage racks on the M60, county-run buses to SFO airport used to have these kinds of racks also. Then an airport van service sued, asserting &#8220;unfair competition&#8221;, and the racks were removed. They were replaced with a &#8220;luggage policy&#8221; specifying how much luggage a passenger could bring on board.</p>
<p>I hope we don&#8217;t have the same outcome here.</p>
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		<title>By: David_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>David_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:49:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: City Room screed by Robert Sawyer:
  &quot;bike lanes continue to proliferate, and with them comes another interest  
   group with its own profound sense of entitlement, which is to say it is 
   suffering from the delusion it has the right to ride through our streets 
   as if the city has settled into the easy rhythms of East Hampton or 
   Washington, Conn., or any sleepy town you can name.&quot;

Another interest group with its own profound sense of entitlement?  I think most bikers feel a profound sense of precariuosness in bike lanes -- after all, the vast majority of lanes are mere strips of paint, offering little more than symbolic protection from cars &amp; trucks.  The &quot;solution&quot; that Sawyers seems to favor, turning the streets completely over to motorists (don&#039;t they constitute an interest group?  AAA?), is pretty lousy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: City Room screed by Robert Sawyer:<br />
  &#8220;bike lanes continue to proliferate, and with them comes another interest<br />
   group with its own profound sense of entitlement, which is to say it is<br />
   suffering from the delusion it has the right to ride through our streets<br />
   as if the city has settled into the easy rhythms of East Hampton or<br />
   Washington, Conn., or any sleepy town you can name.&#8221;</p>
<p>Another interest group with its own profound sense of entitlement?  I think most bikers feel a profound sense of precariuosness in bike lanes &#8212; after all, the vast majority of lanes are mere strips of paint, offering little more than symbolic protection from cars &amp; trucks.  The &#8220;solution&#8221; that Sawyers seems to favor, turning the streets completely over to motorists (don&#8217;t they constitute an interest group?  AAA?), is pretty lousy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:42:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“If you think this is bad, wait until we get to the highway,” Ms. Huertas told them, according to the account Mr. Soto received from Kayla.

He said Ms. Huertas asked the girls: “Who thinks we’re going to crash? Raise your hand if you think we’re going to crash.”&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Sounds like she learned how to drive from car commercials and action movies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“If you think this is bad, wait until we get to the highway,” Ms. Huertas told them, according to the account Mr. Soto received from Kayla.</p>
<p>He said Ms. Huertas asked the girls: “Who thinks we’re going to crash? Raise your hand if you think we’re going to crash.”</p></blockquote>
<p>Sounds like she learned how to drive from car commercials and action movies.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:19:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How to fix the F from Windsor Terrace to Cobble Hill?  In this state we may be past worrying about how to fix things for everyone.  Here&#039;s how to fix it for you!

Bike to work 3 or 4 days per week.  And on the other days, go downstairs to the BMT at 4th Ave, and take the BMT home, either climbing the stairs at 9th Street so you are on the F for less time, or riding the Brighton and walking across the park. That works for me.

BTW, things were much, much, much worse in the mid-1980s.  But they will also be much worse for the next decade, as the signals and viaduct are repaired.  And will be much worse forever if the money runs out and the signals and viaduct are not repaired.

In which case the only rideable line will be the Canarsie (L) which is brand new, as a result of a reconstruction that people kvetched about the whole time it was underway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How to fix the F from Windsor Terrace to Cobble Hill?  In this state we may be past worrying about how to fix things for everyone.  Here&#8217;s how to fix it for you!</p>
<p>Bike to work 3 or 4 days per week.  And on the other days, go downstairs to the BMT at 4th Ave, and take the BMT home, either climbing the stairs at 9th Street so you are on the F for less time, or riding the Brighton and walking across the park. That works for me.</p>
<p>BTW, things were much, much, much worse in the mid-1980s.  But they will also be much worse for the next decade, as the signals and viaduct are repaired.  And will be much worse forever if the money runs out and the signals and viaduct are not repaired.</p>
<p>In which case the only rideable line will be the Canarsie (L) which is brand new, as a result of a reconstruction that people kvetched about the whole time it was underway.</p>
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		<title>By: vnm</title>
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		<dc:creator>vnm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 13:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>His very muddled thoughts on congestion pricing notwithstanding, David Owen&#039;s new book &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.amazon.com/Green-Metropolis-Smaller-Driving-toSustainability/dp/1594488827&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Green Metropolis&lt;/a&gt; should be required reading for all Streetsblog readers. It is the most cogent summary of the key elements of environmental sustainability that I have ever read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>His very muddled thoughts on congestion pricing notwithstanding, David Owen&#8217;s new book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Green-Metropolis-Smaller-Driving-toSustainability/dp/1594488827" rel="nofollow">Green Metropolis</a> should be required reading for all Streetsblog readers. It is the most cogent summary of the key elements of environmental sustainability that I have ever read.</p>
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