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	<title>Comments on: Peds and Cyclists Fighting for Space on the Pulaski Bridge</title>
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		<title>By: cochon</title>
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		<dc:creator>cochon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 17:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never witnessed a high volume of auto traffic over that bridge. two lanes each way are more than enough. take a lane away from the cars and give it to the peds and bikers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never witnessed a high volume of auto traffic over that bridge. two lanes each way are more than enough. take a lane away from the cars and give it to the peds and bikers.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 00:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I appreciate the volume calculation, but I can&#039;t get past the obvious commonsense observation that McGuinness is two lanes each way, 11st is two lanes, and the bridge in the middle is... three lanes.

It&#039;s bone stupid, is what. Unless you think cars going really effing fast fast is the holy goddamn grail. Ladies and gentlemen, American traffic engineering!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I appreciate the volume calculation, but I can&#8217;t get past the obvious commonsense observation that McGuinness is two lanes each way, 11st is two lanes, and the bridge in the middle is&#8230; three lanes.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s bone stupid, is what. Unless you think cars going really effing fast fast is the holy goddamn grail. Ladies and gentlemen, American traffic engineering!</p>
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		<title>By: JJM 63</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJM 63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 21:51:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hilary, the &quot;sweet spot&quot; for fuel economy and capacity is about 35 mph. Faster than that, and drivers leave longer gaps between vehicles, reducing capacity. Slower than that, and congestion starts to take a toll. Also, at those speeds, riding on a shoulder is okay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hilary, the &#8220;sweet spot&#8221; for fuel economy and capacity is about 35 mph. Faster than that, and drivers leave longer gaps between vehicles, reducing capacity. Slower than that, and congestion starts to take a toll. Also, at those speeds, riding on a shoulder is okay.</p>
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		<title>By: Moocow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 16:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I #14? Stupid iPhone doesn&#039;t show it. The captain in me bristled at the apparent lack of recognition of the use of the waterway. The tugs that move cargo through there keep loads of trucks off the street.
 I think dreaming up another bridge will be just that, espcially when the Pulaski just needs and can be cheaply and easily adjusted to safely accomodates bikes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I #14? Stupid iPhone doesn&#8217;t show it. The captain in me bristled at the apparent lack of recognition of the use of the waterway. The tugs that move cargo through there keep loads of trucks off the street.<br />
 I think dreaming up another bridge will be just that, espcially when the Pulaski just needs and can be cheaply and easily adjusted to safely accomodates bikes.</p>
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		<title>By: Hilary Kitasei</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hilary Kitasei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 12:10:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the actual speed on the bridge is close to 60, and eliminating a lane brings it down to 30 (the actual limit) - would this still be considered a &quot;bottleneck&quot;?  

Likewise, if congestion reduces average overall speed to the speed limit, should it be allowed to be used to justify widening the highway? Bottlenecks are bad because they produce more pollution, but they shouldn&#039;t be allowed to drive expansions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the actual speed on the bridge is close to 60, and eliminating a lane brings it down to 30 (the actual limit) &#8211; would this still be considered a &#8220;bottleneck&#8221;?  </p>
<p>Likewise, if congestion reduces average overall speed to the speed limit, should it be allowed to be used to justify widening the highway? Bottlenecks are bad because they produce more pollution, but they shouldn&#8217;t be allowed to drive expansions.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt H</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matt H</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In response to #14: the Grand Street bridge technically goes over Newtown Creek. :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In response to #14: the Grand Street bridge technically goes over Newtown Creek. <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: JJM 63</title>
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		<dc:creator>JJM 63</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 03:05:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>According to this report: http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/scnlinerpt07.pdf

the Pulaski bridge carries 37,200 motor vehicles per day. The rule of thumb for urban roads is peak hour volume is usually somewhere near 11% of total daily volume, or ~4100 vehicles per hour. During free flow, each lane can carry 1900 vehicles per hour. A traffic signal cuts this to half that or less.

It would have to flair out again at each end for the intersections, but you could easily give up a lanes or even two on the bridge without too much trouble, unless there is a real heavy directional commuter flow, like I684 in Westchester.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>According to this report: <a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/scnlinerpt07.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/scnlinerpt07.pdf</a></p>
<p>the Pulaski bridge carries 37,200 motor vehicles per day. The rule of thumb for urban roads is peak hour volume is usually somewhere near 11% of total daily volume, or ~4100 vehicles per hour. During free flow, each lane can carry 1900 vehicles per hour. A traffic signal cuts this to half that or less.</p>
<p>It would have to flair out again at each end for the intersections, but you could easily give up a lanes or even two on the bridge without too much trouble, unless there is a real heavy directional commuter flow, like I684 in Westchester.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 02:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think I&#039;ve ever ridden with the cars on this bridge, but I used to do it several times a week on the nearby Greenpoint Avenue Bridge (named after J.J. Byrne, but nobody uses that name).  The sidewalks don&#039;t have railings and are pretty narrow.

I never really had any problems, but it was pretty scary.  I&#039;m not sure I&#039;d do it again at this point.  I definitely wouldn&#039;t want to do it on the Pulaski.  But I would like to see part of the roadway set aside for cyclists.

Someone told me that it would be hard to do on the Pulaski because it&#039;s a drawbridge, but I don&#039;t buy that.  There&#039;s got to be something that can be done with flexible bollards or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think I&#8217;ve ever ridden with the cars on this bridge, but I used to do it several times a week on the nearby Greenpoint Avenue Bridge (named after J.J. Byrne, but nobody uses that name).  The sidewalks don&#8217;t have railings and are pretty narrow.</p>
<p>I never really had any problems, but it was pretty scary.  I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;d do it again at this point.  I definitely wouldn&#8217;t want to do it on the Pulaski.  But I would like to see part of the roadway set aside for cyclists.</p>
<p>Someone told me that it would be hard to do on the Pulaski because it&#8217;s a drawbridge, but I don&#8217;t buy that.  There&#8217;s got to be something that can be done with flexible bollards or something.</p>
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		<title>By: Moocow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 01:12:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The newtown creek is a working waterway.
  I also have to ride over this bridge quite often, just go slow, try not to taunt the locals, don&#039;t be the menace to peds that cars are to us cyclists.

I wish I had taken photos of the smashed fire plug guards that used to stand on the Queens side across the intersection from the bridge. Cemented iron bollards smashed flat like folded cardboard tubes. Now there is a Feders style apt building there, let&#039;s see how often that thing gets hit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The newtown creek is a working waterway.<br />
  I also have to ride over this bridge quite often, just go slow, try not to taunt the locals, don&#8217;t be the menace to peds that cars are to us cyclists.</p>
<p>I wish I had taken photos of the smashed fire plug guards that used to stand on the Queens side across the intersection from the bridge. Cemented iron bollards smashed flat like folded cardboard tubes. Now there is a Feders style apt building there, let&#8217;s see how often that thing gets hit.</p>
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		<title>By: The Opoponax</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Opoponax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 23:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what I&#039;d really love?  A ped/bike dedicated bridge that passed over Newtown Creek only slightly above street level.  Looking at a map I&#039;m having a hard time deciding where it would be, especially considering that between the LIE and the rail yards very little on the immediate Queens side is particularly human-friendly.  And then also considering that Newtown Creek is a superfund site, so potential ew factor.  But maybe in an idealized biketopian future, it would be possible...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what I&#8217;d really love?  A ped/bike dedicated bridge that passed over Newtown Creek only slightly above street level.  Looking at a map I&#8217;m having a hard time deciding where it would be, especially considering that between the LIE and the rail yards very little on the immediate Queens side is particularly human-friendly.  And then also considering that Newtown Creek is a superfund site, so potential ew factor.  But maybe in an idealized biketopian future, it would be possible&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Kaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 21:25:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;ve looked at my own speedometer when doing the Pulaski in my car, and I hit 60mph just keeping pace with everyone else. The road&#039;s built like a racetrack, and so everyone uses it that way.

So, yes, it&#039;s a 60mph road, even though that&#039;s double the posted limit. It is a kind of sarcasm I suppose.

There totally should be a Vernon/Manhattan bridge; it should carry one car-plus-bicycles lane in either direction, and have wings on either side for pedestrians.

The Queens-Midtown tunnel plaza would make this difficult.

I once sold an orange PacDesigns messenger bag to a dude off craigslist, and then saw him weeks later, on the Pulaski traffic lanes in a goddamn cargo bike, like some cycling superhero. It is then that I truly knew what it was to be hardcore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;ve looked at my own speedometer when doing the Pulaski in my car, and I hit 60mph just keeping pace with everyone else. The road&#8217;s built like a racetrack, and so everyone uses it that way.</p>
<p>So, yes, it&#8217;s a 60mph road, even though that&#8217;s double the posted limit. It is a kind of sarcasm I suppose.</p>
<p>There totally should be a Vernon/Manhattan bridge; it should carry one car-plus-bicycles lane in either direction, and have wings on either side for pedestrians.</p>
<p>The Queens-Midtown tunnel plaza would make this difficult.</p>
<p>I once sold an orange PacDesigns messenger bag to a dude off craigslist, and then saw him weeks later, on the Pulaski traffic lanes in a goddamn cargo bike, like some cycling superhero. It is then that I truly knew what it was to be hardcore.</p>
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		<title>By: The Opoponax</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Opoponax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, duh. Sorry.

Frankly, considering how often I&#039;ve been angrily blown by driving over the bridge doing 35-40 mph, a little part of me thought the speed limit there might really be 60...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, duh. Sorry.</p>
<p>Frankly, considering how often I&#8217;ve been angrily blown by driving over the bridge doing 35-40 mph, a little part of me thought the speed limit there might really be 60&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rlb</title>
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		<dc:creator>rlb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There used to be a bridge between manhattan and vernon. Put it back and make it a pedestrian/biking bridge.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There used to be a bridge between manhattan and vernon. Put it back and make it a pedestrian/biking bridge.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Epstein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Epstein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 19:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kaja was being sarcastic.  The speed limit on the bridge is 30 mph.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kaja was being sarcastic.  The speed limit on the bridge is 30 mph.</p>
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		<title>By: The Opoponax</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Opoponax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The bridge is a 60mph road&quot;

Which makes no sense, considering that the Pulaski bridge takes approximately .2 seconds to drive over and connects two equally dense urban neighborhoods - it&#039;s really just a quick hop over Newtown Creek.  I could understand having a major speed limit change if it were on par with the Triboro or Verazzano Narrows, but it&#039;s not.  Who decides this stuff?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The bridge is a 60mph road&#8221;</p>
<p>Which makes no sense, considering that the Pulaski bridge takes approximately .2 seconds to drive over and connects two equally dense urban neighborhoods &#8211; it&#8217;s really just a quick hop over Newtown Creek.  I could understand having a major speed limit change if it were on par with the Triboro or Verazzano Narrows, but it&#8217;s not.  Who decides this stuff?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaja</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 18:30:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; McGuinness is only two lanes leading up to the bridge, i don&#039;t know why they need to expand to three lanes on such a short bridge.

Approaches are two lanes on both sides of the bridge. They&#039;re also 30-40mph. The bridge is a 60mph road, and _that_ is why it&#039;s got an extra lane. Cars need the 1/3 more space to go that extra 20mph over the 35mph reaction time threshold.

This is the logic of pavement.

By this logic, McGuinness also needs two extra lanes, so everyone can remain at their 60mph bridge speed through Greenpoint. And so on. Soon enough the BQE has spurs and everyone&#039;s living under concrete canopies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; McGuinness is only two lanes leading up to the bridge, i don&#8217;t know why they need to expand to three lanes on such a short bridge.</p>
<p>Approaches are two lanes on both sides of the bridge. They&#8217;re also 30-40mph. The bridge is a 60mph road, and _that_ is why it&#8217;s got an extra lane. Cars need the 1/3 more space to go that extra 20mph over the 35mph reaction time threshold.</p>
<p>This is the logic of pavement.</p>
<p>By this logic, McGuinness also needs two extra lanes, so everyone can remain at their 60mph bridge speed through Greenpoint. And so on. Soon enough the BQE has spurs and everyone&#8217;s living under concrete canopies.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill from Brooklyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill from Brooklyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unlike the Brooklyn Bridge issue, which has multiple complications and concerns about unattended consequences, the situation at the Pulaski Bridge should be easy.  As noted, there is rarely any automobile congestion on the Bridge, and usually I have found that when I have crossed the Bridge, cars are regularly traveling significantly above the speed limit, which is partly a function of having three underutilized lanes.  Take a lane, better the one next to the current path and convert it to a protected two way bike lane.  This can solve the problem in an efficient (i.e. not that costly) manner and eliminate any conflict between pedestrians and cyclists.

Does DOT control the bridge?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unlike the Brooklyn Bridge issue, which has multiple complications and concerns about unattended consequences, the situation at the Pulaski Bridge should be easy.  As noted, there is rarely any automobile congestion on the Bridge, and usually I have found that when I have crossed the Bridge, cars are regularly traveling significantly above the speed limit, which is partly a function of having three underutilized lanes.  Take a lane, better the one next to the current path and convert it to a protected two way bike lane.  This can solve the problem in an efficient (i.e. not that costly) manner and eliminate any conflict between pedestrians and cyclists.</p>
<p>Does DOT control the bridge?</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work in Long Island City and cycle across this bridge frequently.  DOT recently made major and very needed changes to the Queens-side of the bridge approach.  

The path across the bridge is extremely narrow, made narrower by occasional structural protrusions that don&#039;t provide enough space for more than a single cyclist, or two pedestrians brushing shoulders.  

My approach to using this narrow greenway was to relax, enjoy the view, and cycle at a &quot;walking speed&quot; across the bridge.  When I do this, peds and other cyclists alike seem to understand and appreciate the gesture, and often stop to usher me by.  There&#039;s not enough traffic on this bridge to warrant an &quot;issue&quot; if people just took the time to be neighborly. 

The flip side is that any &quot;issues&quot; will force NYPD to enforce the &quot;please dismount&quot; sign at the base of the bridge, which won&#039;t do anyone a lick of good. :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work in Long Island City and cycle across this bridge frequently.  DOT recently made major and very needed changes to the Queens-side of the bridge approach.  </p>
<p>The path across the bridge is extremely narrow, made narrower by occasional structural protrusions that don&#8217;t provide enough space for more than a single cyclist, or two pedestrians brushing shoulders.  </p>
<p>My approach to using this narrow greenway was to relax, enjoy the view, and cycle at a &#8220;walking speed&#8221; across the bridge.  When I do this, peds and other cyclists alike seem to understand and appreciate the gesture, and often stop to usher me by.  There&#8217;s not enough traffic on this bridge to warrant an &#8220;issue&#8221; if people just took the time to be neighborly. </p>
<p>The flip side is that any &#8220;issues&#8221; will force NYPD to enforce the &#8220;please dismount&#8221; sign at the base of the bridge, which won&#8217;t do anyone a lick of good. :/</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/01/peds-and-cyclists-fighting-for-space-on-the-pulaski-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-127641</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Urbanis is right. Why not just take a lane on the roadway? Are local cyclists that much in thrall to thermoplastic lines on asphalt?

I attest from personal experience that cycling the long downhill into Brooklyn is much more pleasant at 28 mph on the roadway than it is at 12 mph on the footpath.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Urbanis is right. Why not just take a lane on the roadway? Are local cyclists that much in thrall to thermoplastic lines on asphalt?</p>
<p>I attest from personal experience that cycling the long downhill into Brooklyn is much more pleasant at 28 mph on the roadway than it is at 12 mph on the footpath.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Running</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/10/01/peds-and-cyclists-fighting-for-space-on-the-pulaski-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-127631</link>
		<dc:creator>Benjamin Running</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Oct 2009 17:40:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>McGuinness is only two lanes leading up to the bridge, i don&#039;t know why they need to expand to three lanes on such a short bridge. There&#039;s plenty of room to lose a lane of traffic and expand the bike/ped walkway.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>McGuinness is only two lanes leading up to the bridge, i don&#8217;t know why they need to expand to three lanes on such a short bridge. There&#8217;s plenty of room to lose a lane of traffic and expand the bike/ped walkway.</p>
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