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	<title>Comments on: Thompson, Avella Pledge to Dump Sadik-Khan If Elected</title>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-122671</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 22:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t vote for anyone who pledged to drop Sadik-Khan.</description>
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		<title>By: Patrick Nielsen Hayden</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-120991</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Nielsen Hayden</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 14:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;But since last October all our loading and parking areas had been replaced by a curbside bike lane. Since then our delivery suppliers, customers and freight shipping companies have had to endure a stream of tickets to conduct normal business like they had been for decades.&quot;&lt;i&gt;

Holy cow, I want to know about this magical place where people who block bike lanes &lt;i&gt;actually get ticketed&lt;/i&gt;.  It sounds amazing, like Middle-earth, or Shangri-La.  Certainly not like New York City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;But since last October all our loading and parking areas had been replaced by a curbside bike lane. Since then our delivery suppliers, customers and freight shipping companies have had to endure a stream of tickets to conduct normal business like they had been for decades.&#8221;</i><i></i></p>
<p>Holy cow, I want to know about this magical place where people who block bike lanes <i>actually get ticketed</i>.  It sounds amazing, like Middle-earth, or Shangri-La.  Certainly not like New York City.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-110641</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 21:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#57 Larry Littlefield,
#58 Remember hubris,
#59 Cap&#039;n Transit,


On democracy and the politics of positive change the Neurosciences and Free Will Symposium held by Columbia&#039;s Earth Institute may provide some insight:

http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cssr/symposiumIII.html  

&quot;On Sunday and Monday, March 30-31, 2008, the Center for the Study of Science and Religion at the Earth Institute, Columbia University, in collaboration with the Fetzer Institute of Kalamazoo, Michigan, held a public symposium to discuss Neurosciences and Free Will at Columbia University. For two days, this program brought together leaders in the fields of neuroscience, physics, philosophy, psychology, and theology from a variety of religious traditions to discuss the scientific, philosophical, and moral questions raised by recent findings in the sciences on free will.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#57 Larry Littlefield,<br />
#58 Remember hubris,<br />
#59 Cap&#8217;n Transit,</p>
<p>On democracy and the politics of positive change the Neurosciences and Free Will Symposium held by Columbia&#8217;s Earth Institute may provide some insight:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cssr/symposiumIII.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.columbia.edu/cu/cssr/symposiumIII.html</a>  </p>
<p>&#8220;On Sunday and Monday, March 30-31, 2008, the Center for the Study of Science and Religion at the Earth Institute, Columbia University, in collaboration with the Fetzer Institute of Kalamazoo, Michigan, held a public symposium to discuss Neurosciences and Free Will at Columbia University. For two days, this program brought together leaders in the fields of neuroscience, physics, philosophy, psychology, and theology from a variety of religious traditions to discuss the scientific, philosophical, and moral questions raised by recent findings in the sciences on free will.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Douglas Willinger</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-110471</link>
		<dc:creator>Douglas Willinger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cities are about having multi-level activity, yet people give into what could be called a suburban mindset of single level activity for vehicular traffic- go figure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cities are about having multi-level activity, yet people give into what could be called a suburban mindset of single level activity for vehicular traffic- go figure!</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Donovan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-110411</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 17:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just un-friended Thompson on facebook. I guess I&#039;ll be cheering for Bloomy!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just un-friended Thompson on facebook. I guess I&#8217;ll be cheering for Bloomy!</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109901</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 14:33:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My enthusiasm for democracy was very much dampened during the congestion pricing and Ravitch plan debates, when I saw the way that local voices were co-opted by members of the local elites like Avella and Weiner, who in turn were pandered to by Thompson.  It was further quashed when I saw self-appointed representatives of &quot;the community&quot; like Donato attempting to shout down bike lanes and other pedestrian safety improvements, regardless of what the actual community wanted.

I wholeheartedly support opening the DOT to new public participation, but only if it bypasses, or at least reduces the influence of, &quot;community leaders&quot; like Avella and Donato.  They are anti-democracy, elitist thugs defending their own power structure.

The choice is not between the &quot;elite&quot; Bloomberg and the &quot;community&quot; Avella and Thompson, but between a dictator beholden to citywide interests and one beholden to local ones.  Given the choice between two dictators, I&#039;ll go with the one who leans in the direction of safety and ecological responsibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My enthusiasm for democracy was very much dampened during the congestion pricing and Ravitch plan debates, when I saw the way that local voices were co-opted by members of the local elites like Avella and Weiner, who in turn were pandered to by Thompson.  It was further quashed when I saw self-appointed representatives of &#8220;the community&#8221; like Donato attempting to shout down bike lanes and other pedestrian safety improvements, regardless of what the actual community wanted.</p>
<p>I wholeheartedly support opening the DOT to new public participation, but only if it bypasses, or at least reduces the influence of, &#8220;community leaders&#8221; like Avella and Donato.  They are anti-democracy, elitist thugs defending their own power structure.</p>
<p>The choice is not between the &#8220;elite&#8221; Bloomberg and the &#8220;community&#8221; Avella and Thompson, but between a dictator beholden to citywide interests and one beholden to local ones.  Given the choice between two dictators, I&#8217;ll go with the one who leans in the direction of safety and ecological responsibility.</p>
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		<title>By: Remember hubris</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109881</link>
		<dc:creator>Remember hubris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed that the current Community Board model of public input is ineffective, but is that a reason to abandon our principles, our belief (at least historically) in the need for bottom-up and not just top-down planning?  What happens, someday, when Janette Sadik-Khan isn&#039;t Commissioner anymore?

If government can&#039;t afford it, then may be we advocates should be taking the lead in creating new models of public participation and accountability.  Streetsblog and its website kin have been an incredible new tool to foster community and coordination among the advocacy world, to provide information that had previously been obscure or inaccessible.  So may be the next step is making the connection between that and the actual workings of government.

How does DOT (and the other actors who affect our transportation system) select, plan and design projects?  How are the agencies organized and how do their various parts interact?  What approvals are or are not necessary?  Where are the opportunities for the concerned (and informed) public to be involved?  Is there a way for government to more proactively involve communities in planning both citywide policies and local projects?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed that the current Community Board model of public input is ineffective, but is that a reason to abandon our principles, our belief (at least historically) in the need for bottom-up and not just top-down planning?  What happens, someday, when Janette Sadik-Khan isn&#8217;t Commissioner anymore?</p>
<p>If government can&#8217;t afford it, then may be we advocates should be taking the lead in creating new models of public participation and accountability.  Streetsblog and its website kin have been an incredible new tool to foster community and coordination among the advocacy world, to provide information that had previously been obscure or inaccessible.  So may be the next step is making the connection between that and the actual workings of government.</p>
<p>How does DOT (and the other actors who affect our transportation system) select, plan and design projects?  How are the agencies organized and how do their various parts interact?  What approvals are or are not necessary?  Where are the opportunities for the concerned (and informed) public to be involved?  Is there a way for government to more proactively involve communities in planning both citywide policies and local projects?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109871</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:44:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In New York &quot;public input&quot; is often driven by irrational NIMBYs and people looking to get paid, because that is who is paying attention and shows up.  Elsewhere, it is driven by those who have a great deal at other people&#039;s expense and want to keep it (ie. the Town Halls on health care).

Improved community input would require outreach to make it representative, but that is expensive, and governments everywhere are broke.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In New York &#8220;public input&#8221; is often driven by irrational NIMBYs and people looking to get paid, because that is who is paying attention and shows up.  Elsewhere, it is driven by those who have a great deal at other people&#8217;s expense and want to keep it (ie. the Town Halls on health care).</p>
<p>Improved community input would require outreach to make it representative, but that is expensive, and governments everywhere are broke.</p>
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		<title>By: Remember hubris</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109861</link>
		<dc:creator>Remember hubris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 13:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny, us advocates.  Under Weinshall, it was all about demanding more community input to DOT, more accountability, because they weren&#039;t doing what we wanted.  So clearly what was needed was more public input.  Now that DOT is doing &quot;good things&quot;, the things we want, everyone is ok with the amount that they consult communities - which is only marginally more than the &quot;bad old DOT&quot;, and is pretty minimal relative to best planning practices (and the European countries we always look to as models).

So, which do we want?  A philosopher king/queen situation where we (our limited interest group, at least) get exactly what we want or more of a messy democracy where the things that we&#039;re convinced are right are not guaranteed outcomes?  May be we need a little of both, and clearly the purpose of government is to do things for the common good so local input can only drive citywide issues so much, but I would argue the public input side could still use some improvement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny, us advocates.  Under Weinshall, it was all about demanding more community input to DOT, more accountability, because they weren&#8217;t doing what we wanted.  So clearly what was needed was more public input.  Now that DOT is doing &#8220;good things&#8221;, the things we want, everyone is ok with the amount that they consult communities &#8211; which is only marginally more than the &#8220;bad old DOT&#8221;, and is pretty minimal relative to best planning practices (and the European countries we always look to as models).</p>
<p>So, which do we want?  A philosopher king/queen situation where we (our limited interest group, at least) get exactly what we want or more of a messy democracy where the things that we&#8217;re convinced are right are not guaranteed outcomes?  May be we need a little of both, and clearly the purpose of government is to do things for the common good so local input can only drive citywide issues so much, but I would argue the public input side could still use some improvement.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109751</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:43:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#54 gecko continued,   . . . Although freight transport on this city&#039;s waterways may be the best long-term solution.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#54 gecko continued,   . . . Although freight transport on this city&#8217;s waterways may be the best long-term solution.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109741</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 17:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#48 David, &quot; Have you not noticed that you loading zones are returning. The dictator you are speaking of is listening to you, yet you are still screaming. I agree that the original design was lacking, but now they are changing it.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/kent_ave.pdf&quot;

I&#039;ve been riding Kent Avenue early 5:30 AM to work and the new kermit green two-way bike protected bike path emerging on the East River side this week seems quite nice.  Didn&#039;t really understand that the other side is the loading lane probably also a necessity in this heavily mixed-use neighborhood.

Maybe in the future they can start considering using large electric transport for freight just like they replace deisel locomatives with electric when Amtrak comes into Penn Station (for interior air-quality reasons).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#48 David, &#8221; Have you not noticed that you loading zones are returning. The dictator you are speaking of is listening to you, yet you are still screaming. I agree that the original design was lacking, but now they are changing it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/kent_ave.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/kent_ave.pdf</a>&#8220;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been riding Kent Avenue early 5:30 AM to work and the new kermit green two-way bike protected bike path emerging on the East River side this week seems quite nice.  Didn&#8217;t really understand that the other side is the loading lane probably also a necessity in this heavily mixed-use neighborhood.</p>
<p>Maybe in the future they can start considering using large electric transport for freight just like they replace deisel locomatives with electric when Amtrak comes into Penn Station (for interior air-quality reasons).</p>
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		<title>By: dporpentine</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109591</link>
		<dc:creator>dporpentine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 00:06:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Reina:
I love you that feel that owning a building along a street means that you should be specially consulted before any change happens in your neighborhood. Heaven forbid you should have to go to your local community board meetings. You should get 20 votes for every one they let the non-building-owning peons have! The scum! They let the scum rule over you! You! You who give so much!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Reina:<br />
I love you that feel that owning a building along a street means that you should be specially consulted before any change happens in your neighborhood. Heaven forbid you should have to go to your local community board meetings. You should get 20 votes for every one they let the non-building-owning peons have! The scum! They let the scum rule over you! You! You who give so much!</p>
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		<title>By: Hornetsnest</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109551</link>
		<dc:creator>Hornetsnest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:46:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for DOT and can tell you yes, we did drop those lanes on Kent with virtually no consultation. I support bike lanes generally, but the agency does need to consult more with the community before it does something like deprive businesses of loading zones. DOT backed down only as a result of business owners rightfully screaming about this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for DOT and can tell you yes, we did drop those lanes on Kent with virtually no consultation. I support bike lanes generally, but the agency does need to consult more with the community before it does something like deprive businesses of loading zones. DOT backed down only as a result of business owners rightfully screaming about this.</p>
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		<title>By: Streetsman</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-2/#comment-109521</link>
		<dc:creator>Streetsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 20:36:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think what all this has revealed more than anything else is that the CB system does not do an adequate job of assessing the needs/concerns of their communities. CB&#039;s reject bike lanes and farmer&#039;s markets in neighborhoods that are crying out for them (Washington Heights) and approve them on streets where some/many local businesses turn out to be vehemently opposed (Grand Street, Kent Ave.).

Now no business or property is entitled to free curbside parking. If regular loading of delivery goods in trucks is vital to a business, than that business would be better located in a property with a truck yard or loading dock, not staging that along the curb and sidewalk, compromising the safety of pedestrians and cyclists like so many do. But the Kent Ave. bike lane designs were particularly punishing by removing parking on both sides of the street and CB1 really should have known that wouldn&#039;t fly before they approved it. Glad to see that, through focused community interaction, a workable compromise has been reached.

The elitist dictator label is a little preposterous and undeserved - just the aspersion of those who have been outvoted or overruled by their community boards. These are streets, not private property. And we&#039;re talking about bike lanes being installed - just thermoplastic lines - it&#039;s not like the Cross-Bronx Expressway tearing down peoples homes, or sewage plants being built next door to schools, or the King of England coming in and annexing personal property. Can people be any more dramatic about some painted lines on the road ruining their livelihoods?


It just reinforces the concept that you can&#039;t build a bicycle network through community-based planning or you will have a gap-toothed smile. Any city that has achieved it will tell you that to make cycling represent a meaningful share of a city&#039;s transportation balance means having safe, uninterrupted bicycle facilities that criss-cross the city to take would-be cyclists safely and comfortably to and from all their destinations, or else it doesn&#039;t work at all.

Glad to see Bloomberg and JSK don&#039;t capitulate to small, vocal, self-interested groups with unsubstantiated, sensationalized complaints. And now we know who does.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think what all this has revealed more than anything else is that the CB system does not do an adequate job of assessing the needs/concerns of their communities. CB&#8217;s reject bike lanes and farmer&#8217;s markets in neighborhoods that are crying out for them (Washington Heights) and approve them on streets where some/many local businesses turn out to be vehemently opposed (Grand Street, Kent Ave.).</p>
<p>Now no business or property is entitled to free curbside parking. If regular loading of delivery goods in trucks is vital to a business, than that business would be better located in a property with a truck yard or loading dock, not staging that along the curb and sidewalk, compromising the safety of pedestrians and cyclists like so many do. But the Kent Ave. bike lane designs were particularly punishing by removing parking on both sides of the street and CB1 really should have known that wouldn&#8217;t fly before they approved it. Glad to see that, through focused community interaction, a workable compromise has been reached.</p>
<p>The elitist dictator label is a little preposterous and undeserved &#8211; just the aspersion of those who have been outvoted or overruled by their community boards. These are streets, not private property. And we&#8217;re talking about bike lanes being installed &#8211; just thermoplastic lines &#8211; it&#8217;s not like the Cross-Bronx Expressway tearing down peoples homes, or sewage plants being built next door to schools, or the King of England coming in and annexing personal property. Can people be any more dramatic about some painted lines on the road ruining their livelihoods?</p>
<p>It just reinforces the concept that you can&#8217;t build a bicycle network through community-based planning or you will have a gap-toothed smile. Any city that has achieved it will tell you that to make cycling represent a meaningful share of a city&#8217;s transportation balance means having safe, uninterrupted bicycle facilities that criss-cross the city to take would-be cyclists safely and comfortably to and from all their destinations, or else it doesn&#8217;t work at all.</p>
<p>Glad to see Bloomberg and JSK don&#8217;t capitulate to small, vocal, self-interested groups with unsubstantiated, sensationalized complaints. And now we know who does.</p>
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		<title>By: justanotherblogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>justanotherblogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:27:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve sent both candidates an email letting them know that I will not be voting for them given their statements.  

Will see what response they have, if any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve sent both candidates an email letting them know that I will not be voting for them given their statements.  </p>
<p>Will see what response they have, if any.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Mork</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 16:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any change, even positive change, is going to make conservatives upset.  This is by definition.

Further, in this town, the Democrats are the conservatives because there hasn&#039;t been anyone to oppose them and because it&#039;s not in their self-interest to make changes and risk upsetting anyone.

This is where Bloomberg comes in.

(And, yeah, I know he&#039;s not perfect.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any change, even positive change, is going to make conservatives upset.  This is by definition.</p>
<p>Further, in this town, the Democrats are the conservatives because there hasn&#8217;t been anyone to oppose them and because it&#8217;s not in their self-interest to make changes and risk upsetting anyone.</p>
<p>This is where Bloomberg comes in.</p>
<p>(And, yeah, I know he&#8217;s not perfect.)</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David,

Have you not noticed that you loading zones are returning. The dictator you are speaking of is listening to you, yet you are still screaming. I agree that the original design was lacking, but now they are changing it.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/kent_ave.pdf</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David,</p>
<p>Have you not noticed that you loading zones are returning. The dictator you are speaking of is listening to you, yet you are still screaming. I agree that the original design was lacking, but now they are changing it.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/kent_ave.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/kent_ave.pdf</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jason A</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/27/thompson-avella-pledge-to-dump-sadik-khan-if-elected/comment-page-1/#comment-108921</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I wouldn&#039;t concede every point David Reina is arguing, I&#039;m very sympathetic to the concerns of local businesses.  After emergency vehicles,  deliveries deserve their rightful spot on the road.  The problem is too many delivery vehicles compete with private automobiles for street space.  

This is a big reason why we need congestion pricing and serious parking reform.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I wouldn&#8217;t concede every point David Reina is arguing, I&#8217;m very sympathetic to the concerns of local businesses.  After emergency vehicles,  deliveries deserve their rightful spot on the road.  The problem is too many delivery vehicles compete with private automobiles for street space.  </p>
<p>This is a big reason why we need congestion pricing and serious parking reform.</p>
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		<title>By: fdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 14:11:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Oh, and attacking the new plazas on Broadway is kind of like pledging to pave Bryant Park at this point.&quot;
So what are you saying, that the &quot;pilot&quot; isn&#039;t really a pilot, and that the &quot;DOT evaluation&quot; is pre-determined? Wow, what a surprise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Oh, and attacking the new plazas on Broadway is kind of like pledging to pave Bryant Park at this point.&#8221;<br />
So what are you saying, that the &#8220;pilot&#8221; isn&#8217;t really a pilot, and that the &#8220;DOT evaluation&#8221; is pre-determined? Wow, what a surprise.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Aug 2009 13:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is always going to be a conflict between people who want the streets in their neighborhood to be just for them, and those who need to pass through it.  Many of those who want to pass through other people&#039;s neighborhoods don&#039;t want people from other neighborhoods to pass through theirs.

I&#039;m not a big fan of selfishness, but at least I can understand rational selfishness.

What I don&#039;t get is Lower Manhattan politicians who don&#039;t object to their neighborhood being a through motor vehicle route between Long Island and New Jersey, but do object to people on bicycles riding from Brooklyn to Midtown on their streets, and want more street space for the former and less for the latter.

I can only sum up the attitude this way.  Any change is going to tick off someone. Those who will benefit from the change, even if the vast majority, are either unaware of can be convinced they are threatened.  Therefore, the winning strategy for those who see the policies of our government as a fun little game played for profit is to oppose change. Particularly since the most organized and tuned in interests are those benefit from unearned special privilege, and they are the only people that matter.

What is the principle?  &quot;Community opposition&quot; is hardly it -- just an excuse.  This is exactly like the whole &quot;death panel&quot; thing.  These sleazebag pols are all the same.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is always going to be a conflict between people who want the streets in their neighborhood to be just for them, and those who need to pass through it.  Many of those who want to pass through other people&#8217;s neighborhoods don&#8217;t want people from other neighborhoods to pass through theirs.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not a big fan of selfishness, but at least I can understand rational selfishness.</p>
<p>What I don&#8217;t get is Lower Manhattan politicians who don&#8217;t object to their neighborhood being a through motor vehicle route between Long Island and New Jersey, but do object to people on bicycles riding from Brooklyn to Midtown on their streets, and want more street space for the former and less for the latter.</p>
<p>I can only sum up the attitude this way.  Any change is going to tick off someone. Those who will benefit from the change, even if the vast majority, are either unaware of can be convinced they are threatened.  Therefore, the winning strategy for those who see the policies of our government as a fun little game played for profit is to oppose change. Particularly since the most organized and tuned in interests are those benefit from unearned special privilege, and they are the only people that matter.</p>
<p>What is the principle?  &#8220;Community opposition&#8221; is hardly it &#8212; just an excuse.  This is exactly like the whole &#8220;death panel&#8221; thing.  These sleazebag pols are all the same.</p>
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