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	<title>Comments on: It&#8217;s Official: Bicycle Access Bill Signed Into Law</title>
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		<title>By: galfromdownunder</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-179061</link>
		<dc:creator>galfromdownunder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 20:41:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to the memorabilia mix, here&#039;s a fly-on-the-wall view of the initial hearing back in 2008
http://www.galfromdownunder.com/movies/bikesinbuildingsnyc</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to the memorabilia mix, here&#8217;s a fly-on-the-wall view of the initial hearing back in 2008<br />
<a href="http://www.galfromdownunder.com/movies/bikesinbuildingsnyc" rel="nofollow">http://www.galfromdownunder.com/movies/bikesinbuildingsnyc</a></p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101421</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Aug 2009 01:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Using the relative danger of automobiles vs. bikes is a lame way to mask the fact that bikers can employ behavior that is dangerous to pedestrians.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s not a way to mask anything.  It&#039;s a way to measure the relative cost versus benefits, and to put things in perspective.

People have an incentive to go places.  They could use bicycles.  If you discourage cycling, AND you discourage taking the bus and subway by underfunding it, AND you encourage driving by providing &quot;free&quot; bridges and highways, then you&#039;re giving people incentives to switch from cycling to driving, which greatly increases the danger to everyone on the street.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Using the relative danger of automobiles vs. bikes is a lame way to mask the fact that bikers can employ behavior that is dangerous to pedestrians.</p></blockquote>
<p>It&#8217;s not a way to mask anything.  It&#8217;s a way to measure the relative cost versus benefits, and to put things in perspective.</p>
<p>People have an incentive to go places.  They could use bicycles.  If you discourage cycling, AND you discourage taking the bus and subway by underfunding it, AND you encourage driving by providing &#8220;free&#8221; bridges and highways, then you&#8217;re giving people incentives to switch from cycling to driving, which greatly increases the danger to everyone on the street.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101371</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 12:18:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,

Do you have any evidence that bicyclists &quot;compromise the safety of others&quot; to any socially significant extent?

Thanks,

--Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,</p>
<p>Do you have any evidence that bicyclists &#8220;compromise the safety of others&#8221; to any socially significant extent?</p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>&#8211;Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101351</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Aug 2009 04:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bike on a regular basis, yet I don&#039;t get why some bikers here use the &quot;we&#039;re not as bad as cars&quot; argument when a pedestrian expresses a negative experience with a biker.  Might as well say, &quot;Well, you should see how MURDERERS act with their GUNS! THEY&#039;re REALLY dangerous!&quot;  Using the relative danger of automobiles vs. bikes is a lame way to mask the fact that bikers can employ behavior that is dangerous to pedestrians.

A lot of US bikers are driven by the same human nature as drivers, yielding similar results:  we are impatient, so we run red lights, or stop at crosswalks so we can inch our way through the intersections faster.  We don&#039;t yield to pedestrians on tracks like the west side highway one.  We weave through crosswalks at high speeds so we don&#039;t get slowed down.  It&#039;s really not that different than automobile drivers from a behavioral standpoint.  In some ways, we&#039;re worse, because unlike automobile drivers, we cling to this idea that we&#039;re &quot;better&quot; simply because we&#039;re not in cars.  Really, that just makes us hypocrites.

The reality is that, many times, and I&#039;ll include myself here, we&#039;re selfish and we compromise the safety of others because of it.  Time to fess up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bike on a regular basis, yet I don&#8217;t get why some bikers here use the &#8220;we&#8217;re not as bad as cars&#8221; argument when a pedestrian expresses a negative experience with a biker.  Might as well say, &#8220;Well, you should see how MURDERERS act with their GUNS! THEY&#8217;re REALLY dangerous!&#8221;  Using the relative danger of automobiles vs. bikes is a lame way to mask the fact that bikers can employ behavior that is dangerous to pedestrians.</p>
<p>A lot of US bikers are driven by the same human nature as drivers, yielding similar results:  we are impatient, so we run red lights, or stop at crosswalks so we can inch our way through the intersections faster.  We don&#8217;t yield to pedestrians on tracks like the west side highway one.  We weave through crosswalks at high speeds so we don&#8217;t get slowed down.  It&#8217;s really not that different than automobile drivers from a behavioral standpoint.  In some ways, we&#8217;re worse, because unlike automobile drivers, we cling to this idea that we&#8217;re &#8220;better&#8221; simply because we&#8217;re not in cars.  Really, that just makes us hypocrites.</p>
<p>The reality is that, many times, and I&#8217;ll include myself here, we&#8217;re selfish and we compromise the safety of others because of it.  Time to fess up.</p>
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		<title>By: The Opoponax</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101191</link>
		<dc:creator>The Opoponax</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 05:25:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arlene, as commuting by bike becomes more feasible for ordinary 9 to 5 folks (facilitated by this law), scofflaw behavior will go way down.  Especially as the city provides more facilities for cyclists and manages traffic better.  Part of the reason people on bikes are willing to act scary towards pedestrians is that it&#039;s better to freak out a few people without hurting anybody than to be hit by a car.  

More and more, it amazes me that most people&#039;s real problem with bikes boils down to &quot;they were insufficiently deferential!&quot; or &quot;they scared me!&quot;  Especially when these complaints are leveled at cyclists who were actually doing the right thing.  

Not to mention that I can&#039;t count the number of times that I&#039;ve been almost run down as a pedestrian by DRIVERS.  And also can&#039;t count the number of times that I&#039;ve almost been killed by a reckless driver while I was driving.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arlene, as commuting by bike becomes more feasible for ordinary 9 to 5 folks (facilitated by this law), scofflaw behavior will go way down.  Especially as the city provides more facilities for cyclists and manages traffic better.  Part of the reason people on bikes are willing to act scary towards pedestrians is that it&#8217;s better to freak out a few people without hurting anybody than to be hit by a car.  </p>
<p>More and more, it amazes me that most people&#8217;s real problem with bikes boils down to &#8220;they were insufficiently deferential!&#8221; or &#8220;they scared me!&#8221;  Especially when these complaints are leveled at cyclists who were actually doing the right thing.  </p>
<p>Not to mention that I can&#8217;t count the number of times that I&#8217;ve been almost run down as a pedestrian by DRIVERS.  And also can&#8217;t count the number of times that I&#8217;ve almost been killed by a reckless driver while I was driving.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101161</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Aug 2009 00:11:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want my necessary stimulations!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want my necessary stimulations!</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101141</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Arlene,

You find bicyclists &quot;dangerous&quot;, but it is automobiles that maim and kill thousands in our city every year. Scofflaw bicyclists are annoying, but scofflaw drivers are deadly. Let&#039;s keep our eyes on the things that matter.

Cheers,

--Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Arlene,</p>
<p>You find bicyclists &#8220;dangerous&#8221;, but it is automobiles that maim and kill thousands in our city every year. Scofflaw bicyclists are annoying, but scofflaw drivers are deadly. Let&#8217;s keep our eyes on the things that matter.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>&#8211;Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Arlene Perry</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101121</link>
		<dc:creator>Arlene Perry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 23:11:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not against bicyclists but they should be made to follow the laws of the roads.  As someone who has nearly been struck by bikers who fail to stop at red lights, travel the wrong way on a street or yield to those of us who prefer to walk, I find it dangerous.  You give them all of the rights and power but fail to make necessary stimulations so that ecveryone is protected.

Let&#039;s protect everyone&#039;s right to a safe and environmentally friendly city and enforce the laws for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not against bicyclists but they should be made to follow the laws of the roads.  As someone who has nearly been struck by bikers who fail to stop at red lights, travel the wrong way on a street or yield to those of us who prefer to walk, I find it dangerous.  You give them all of the rights and power but fail to make necessary stimulations so that ecveryone is protected.</p>
<p>Let&#8217;s protect everyone&#8217;s right to a safe and environmentally friendly city and enforce the laws for all.</p>
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		<title>By: David Camacho</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101101</link>
		<dc:creator>David Camacho</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 22:09:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a tiny, itsy bitsy step towards a greener NYC.  Ya must start somewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a tiny, itsy bitsy step towards a greener NYC.  Ya must start somewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-101091</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 21:14:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any entrepreneurs out there?  Between this bill and the real estate bust, there might be some office buildings willing to rent less desirable space (say second floor or basement on a side street) for bicycle a storage service.

Given that one could park on the street for nothing, what might someone be willing to pay?  I might be tempted at $10 per month, if a tire pump and a few other amenities were provided.

One could charge more if showers and towels were also provided, though I generally do not find them necessary.  One might also offer office clothing storage.  I&#039;m not sure which model is more likely to succeed -- just protected storage or full service.

On just needs to wait for the bankruptcy and foreclosure sale, and deal with the bank or new buyers (or new RTC if it gets bad enough).  Given what merchants located in the same zip code as bike lanes give as a reason for declining sales in a consumer led recession, I hope the default of buildings purchased at the top of the commercial real estate market aren&#039;t blamed on this bill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Any entrepreneurs out there?  Between this bill and the real estate bust, there might be some office buildings willing to rent less desirable space (say second floor or basement on a side street) for bicycle a storage service.</p>
<p>Given that one could park on the street for nothing, what might someone be willing to pay?  I might be tempted at $10 per month, if a tire pump and a few other amenities were provided.</p>
<p>One could charge more if showers and towels were also provided, though I generally do not find them necessary.  One might also offer office clothing storage.  I&#8217;m not sure which model is more likely to succeed &#8212; just protected storage or full service.</p>
<p>On just needs to wait for the bankruptcy and foreclosure sale, and deal with the bank or new buyers (or new RTC if it gets bad enough).  Given what merchants located in the same zip code as bike lanes give as a reason for declining sales in a consumer led recession, I hope the default of buildings purchased at the top of the commercial real estate market aren&#8217;t blamed on this bill.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Fried</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100971</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Fried</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the law takes effect, people will have to talk to their employers. But jumping the gun might spoil their chances.

For now, the most important thing is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/07/30/so-you-want-bicycle-access-to-your-building-now-what/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;to build a strong case for bike access to your building&lt;/a&gt;, so in 100 or so days, when the law does take effect, you&#039;ll be well-positioned to take advantage.

By then, the bike advocates should also have some sort of support system in place to help everyone navigate the process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the law takes effect, people will have to talk to their employers. But jumping the gun might spoil their chances.</p>
<p>For now, the most important thing is <a href="http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/07/30/so-you-want-bicycle-access-to-your-building-now-what/" rel="nofollow">to build a strong case for bike access to your building</a>, so in 100 or so days, when the law does take effect, you&#8217;ll be well-positioned to take advantage.</p>
<p>By then, the bike advocates should also have some sort of support system in place to help everyone navigate the process.</p>
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		<title>By: Slappy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100961</link>
		<dc:creator>Slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mentioned it to my office administration and they shot me down. Said I wouldn&#039;t be able to bring my bike in...boo-hoo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mentioned it to my office administration and they shot me down. Said I wouldn&#8217;t be able to bring my bike in&#8230;boo-hoo</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100931</link>
		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 18:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are you advising people not to talk to their employer? If your employer isn&#039;t in board with space in the office, bike access through the lobby is moot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are you advising people not to talk to their employer? If your employer isn&#8217;t in board with space in the office, bike access through the lobby is moot.</p>
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		<title>By: bc</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100881</link>
		<dc:creator>bc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:37:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sweet!  Good on ya, congrats Paul.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sweet!  Good on ya, congrats Paul.</p>
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		<title>By: vnm</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100861</link>
		<dc:creator>vnm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome.  Congrats to all involved.  That pen deserves a place of honor!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome.  Congrats to all involved.  That pen deserves a place of honor!</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Steely White</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100831</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Steely White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the mayor has all those pens so he can hand them out to folks afterwards, like candy from a parade float. i got mine!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the mayor has all those pens so he can hand them out to folks afterwards, like candy from a parade float. i got mine!</p>
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		<title>By: Eric McClure</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100821</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric McClure</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:13:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finally, some good news today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finally, some good news today.</p>
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		<title>By: vnm</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/08/14/its-official-bicycle-access-bill-signed-into-law/comment-page-1/#comment-100811</link>
		<dc:creator>vnm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Aug 2009 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is something I&#039;ve always wondered.  Why does the Mayor need like 27 pens to sign legislation?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is something I&#8217;ve always wondered.  Why does the Mayor need like 27 pens to sign legislation?</p>
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