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	<title>Comments on: TA Report: Reckless Driving Casualties Rising as NYPD Enforcement Lags</title>
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		<title>By: kate m</title>
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		<dc:creator>kate m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Aug 2009 00:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While passing yet another  pointlessly idling tour bus in front of BAM,I asked a traffic enforcement officer how long a vehicle could idle. I understood it was 3 minutes.  
    He said 30 minutes,while trying his best to avoid the conversation and walking away.
The police don&#039;t know or don&#039;t care about the law!

 These are the very people who could reduce diesel fumes and increase revenue. 
 What can we do to get them empowered and motivated to monitor and ticket idlers?
 To what agency can I voice this concern?The EPA isn&#039;t doing it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While passing yet another  pointlessly idling tour bus in front of BAM,I asked a traffic enforcement officer how long a vehicle could idle. I understood it was 3 minutes.<br />
    He said 30 minutes,while trying his best to avoid the conversation and walking away.<br />
The police don&#8217;t know or don&#8217;t care about the law!</p>
<p> These are the very people who could reduce diesel fumes and increase revenue.<br />
 What can we do to get them empowered and motivated to monitor and ticket idlers?<br />
 To what agency can I voice this concern?The EPA isn&#8217;t doing it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathan H.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathan H.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 16:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, why does any particular political party need to be in the mayor&#039;s office for a police department to be subject to representative government? NY Democrats peg so low on the liberal principles I care about—much lower than the hated Bloomberg—I&#039;ve stopped paying any attention to who&#039;s in or out of our joke of a party. And it seems I&#039;m in good company.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, why does any particular political party need to be in the mayor&#8217;s office for a police department to be subject to representative government? NY Democrats peg so low on the liberal principles I care about—much lower than the hated Bloomberg—I&#8217;ve stopped paying any attention to who&#8217;s in or out of our joke of a party. And it seems I&#8217;m in good company.</p>
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		<title>By: peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 14:16:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto comments #7 and #8.  There is a sense among drivers that most traffic laws aren&#039;t enforced in NYC.  I see cars going through my neighborhood every day at speeds that are clearly way over 30mph, yet I&#039;ve almost never seen the police stopping a car.  Obviously the NYPD can&#039;t police every traffic violation, but they should be directing a lot more enforcement effort on reckless driving, even if it means less enforcement of more minor traffic violations like alternate side parking or talking on a cell phone.  And I think it&#039;s completely nuts that the police set up stings to ticket bicyclists when reckless driving is responsible for literally thousands of deaths and injuries in NYC every year, particularly among pedestrians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ditto comments #7 and #8.  There is a sense among drivers that most traffic laws aren&#8217;t enforced in NYC.  I see cars going through my neighborhood every day at speeds that are clearly way over 30mph, yet I&#8217;ve almost never seen the police stopping a car.  Obviously the NYPD can&#8217;t police every traffic violation, but they should be directing a lot more enforcement effort on reckless driving, even if it means less enforcement of more minor traffic violations like alternate side parking or talking on a cell phone.  And I think it&#8217;s completely nuts that the police set up stings to ticket bicyclists when reckless driving is responsible for literally thousands of deaths and injuries in NYC every year, particularly among pedestrians.</p>
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		<title>By: buford puser</title>
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		<dc:creator>buford puser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jul 2009 03:09:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t commented here in a while.
This report is based on the faulty premise that the NYPD is an agency that Mayor Bloomberg controls or to which he can give orders that will be obeyed. 
Ray&#039;s deal with Mayor Mike is 100% control; he doesn&#039;t have to listen to Mayor Mike &amp; never will- don&#039;t like it, move, or vote for a Democrat, should NYC develop a Democratic party capable of winning a Mayoral election for the first time in 16 years, in a town with 90% Dem registration (assuming one concedes Koch to have been an actual Dem at any time since leaving Congress).
Sure would be nice to live in some kind of fantasy world where a PD had some kind of system, call it, say, Compstat, where PD bosses could be held accountable for choosing to ignore things that would keep NYers safe</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t commented here in a while.<br />
This report is based on the faulty premise that the NYPD is an agency that Mayor Bloomberg controls or to which he can give orders that will be obeyed.<br />
Ray&#8217;s deal with Mayor Mike is 100% control; he doesn&#8217;t have to listen to Mayor Mike &amp; never will- don&#8217;t like it, move, or vote for a Democrat, should NYC develop a Democratic party capable of winning a Mayoral election for the first time in 16 years, in a town with 90% Dem registration (assuming one concedes Koch to have been an actual Dem at any time since leaving Congress).<br />
Sure would be nice to live in some kind of fantasy world where a PD had some kind of system, call it, say, Compstat, where PD bosses could be held accountable for choosing to ignore things that would keep NYers safe</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:54:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reduced enforcement and increased danger referred to in TA&#039;s report matches my observation of drivers in my neighborhood, the West 90s. I&#039;m seeing U-turns, every day, at fast-moving intersections like Broadway and 96th (with impatient traffic moving on and off the highway) and West End and 98th (where a hill restricts your view of traffic to only one short block north). The risk of a head-on collision is ever present. Put aside the risk to pedestrians for a moment -- they&#039;re just as willing to risk slaughtering themselves and their fellow drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reduced enforcement and increased danger referred to in TA&#8217;s report matches my observation of drivers in my neighborhood, the West 90s. I&#8217;m seeing U-turns, every day, at fast-moving intersections like Broadway and 96th (with impatient traffic moving on and off the highway) and West End and 98th (where a hill restricts your view of traffic to only one short block north). The risk of a head-on collision is ever present. Put aside the risk to pedestrians for a moment &#8212; they&#8217;re just as willing to risk slaughtering themselves and their fellow drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: vnm</title>
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		<dc:creator>vnm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 22:34:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This study confirms exactly what I see on the streets every day. Every day on the way to the walk to or from the train station, I see a motorist breaking a moving or parking law of some type. It could be making a U-turn where it says &quot;No U-Turn,&quot; clipping a red light, making a right turn on red, parking against the alternate side regulations, talking on the cell phone while driving, etc., etc. Drivers know they can get away with breaking the traffic codes, so they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This study confirms exactly what I see on the streets every day. Every day on the way to the walk to or from the train station, I see a motorist breaking a moving or parking law of some type. It could be making a U-turn where it says &#8220;No U-Turn,&#8221; clipping a red light, making a right turn on red, parking against the alternate side regulations, talking on the cell phone while driving, etc., etc. Drivers know they can get away with breaking the traffic codes, so they do.</p>
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		<title>By: fdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 20:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An Office of Road Safety would have to be run by a Deputy Mayor to get cooperation from the Police Department, at least under this Mayor and this Police Commissioner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An Office of Road Safety would have to be run by a Deputy Mayor to get cooperation from the Police Department, at least under this Mayor and this Police Commissioner.</p>
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		<title>By: paco</title>
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		<dc:creator>paco</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about unite the cops and bikers that developed an unfortunate rivalry and expand the NYPD bike patrol fleet! Just a dozen officers or so on wheels would make a tremendous impact citywide. They could zip around efficiently and write tons of tickets w/o needing to add a cop car to the street, double parked and causing even more danger and traffic than what the original ticket was written for.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about unite the cops and bikers that developed an unfortunate rivalry and expand the NYPD bike patrol fleet! Just a dozen officers or so on wheels would make a tremendous impact citywide. They could zip around efficiently and write tons of tickets w/o needing to add a cop car to the street, double parked and causing even more danger and traffic than what the original ticket was written for.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:35:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CarFree: I have seen speed traps like you describe on the NJ Turnpike and Mass Pike. One cop sits there with a radar gun, and a seemingly unending series of patrol cars pull out to ticket those tagged.

My impression is that the amount of revenue from the tickets so far exceeds the cost of the cop that it always pays to have someone write 10 tickets a day (I could do that as a pedestrian out on the street for an hour a day! And the number of people making illegal maneuvers has definitely increased in my short lifetime).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CarFree: I have seen speed traps like you describe on the NJ Turnpike and Mass Pike. One cop sits there with a radar gun, and a seemingly unending series of patrol cars pull out to ticket those tagged.</p>
<p>My impression is that the amount of revenue from the tickets so far exceeds the cost of the cop that it always pays to have someone write 10 tickets a day (I could do that as a pedestrian out on the street for an hour a day! And the number of people making illegal maneuvers has definitely increased in my short lifetime).</p>
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		<title>By: ME</title>
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		<dc:creator>ME</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 19:13:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that if we could crack down on taxi and limousine drivers we could start to tame the wild west atmosphere out there.  How about revoking their commercial driver&#039;s license if they get 3 moving violations in a year?

Thanks for a great report TA!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that if we could crack down on taxi and limousine drivers we could start to tame the wild west atmosphere out there.  How about revoking their commercial driver&#8217;s license if they get 3 moving violations in a year?</p>
<p>Thanks for a great report TA!</p>
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		<title>By: Car Free Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car Free Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;ve never seen a speed trap in NYC, the ones on the NYS thruway are incredibly inefficient. There&#039;s one car with a radar gun. When someone is going excessively fast, the cop chases him down, and gives a ticket. Meanwhile, all the rest of the speeders go free.

My suggestion, which I&#039;ve seen rarely seen implemented, would be to have one cop tag cars that are speeding, and another cop a few hundred yards down the road direct the car to pull over. In NYC, you could do this very well, since cars typically have to stop at lights...

This would give the impression to speeders that they will get caught, and would greatly increase the productivity of traffic officers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;ve never seen a speed trap in NYC, the ones on the NYS thruway are incredibly inefficient. There&#8217;s one car with a radar gun. When someone is going excessively fast, the cop chases him down, and gives a ticket. Meanwhile, all the rest of the speeders go free.</p>
<p>My suggestion, which I&#8217;ve seen rarely seen implemented, would be to have one cop tag cars that are speeding, and another cop a few hundred yards down the road direct the car to pull over. In NYC, you could do this very well, since cars typically have to stop at lights&#8230;</p>
<p>This would give the impression to speeders that they will get caught, and would greatly increase the productivity of traffic officers.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jul 2009 18:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, here&#039;s a question for the cash-strapped city: Does deploying police officers to write tickets pay for the fully burdened cost of the officer, including salary, pension, overtime, equipment, training, etc.? If so, then hiring more officers specifically for traffic duty is a fiscal win for the city. If not, the implication is that we should study how to improve that balance, by improving the productivity of traffic officers, increasing the fines of tickets, or giving court and traffic officers the tools to ensure that offenders&#039; tickets are not dismissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, here&#8217;s a question for the cash-strapped city: Does deploying police officers to write tickets pay for the fully burdened cost of the officer, including salary, pension, overtime, equipment, training, etc.? If so, then hiring more officers specifically for traffic duty is a fiscal win for the city. If not, the implication is that we should study how to improve that balance, by improving the productivity of traffic officers, increasing the fines of tickets, or giving court and traffic officers the tools to ensure that offenders&#8217; tickets are not dismissed.</p>
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