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	<title>Comments on: Mapped: Hudson River Greenway to the George Washington Bridge</title>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/07/07/mapped-hudson-river-greenway-to-the-george-washington-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-250291</link>
		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 22:53:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s also &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.848411&amp;lon=-73.943409&amp;zoom=18&amp;layers=B000FTFT&amp;node=746730318&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;a path from West 177th St &amp; Haven Avenue down to the Riverside Drive exit off the HHP&lt;/a&gt;, where there&#039;s a sketchy underpass to get you under the highway. On the west side of the underpass you can connect to trails going south to the bridge by the tennis-court restrooms or north underneath the GWB to where the green bridge crosses over the HHP northbound.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s also <a href="http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=40.848411&amp;lon=-73.943409&amp;zoom=18&amp;layers=B000FTFT&amp;node=746730318" rel="nofollow">a path from West 177th St &amp; Haven Avenue down to the Riverside Drive exit off the HHP</a>, where there&#8217;s a sketchy underpass to get you under the highway. On the west side of the underpass you can connect to trails going south to the bridge by the tennis-court restrooms or north underneath the GWB to where the green bridge crosses over the HHP northbound.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/07/07/mapped-hudson-river-greenway-to-the-george-washington-bridge/comment-page-1/#comment-81071</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Jul 2009 14:02:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not that hard. The directions they gave have a huge hill; you go from water level to the height of the bridge deck (160 feet or more?) in a very short distance.

As you can plainly see from the map and comments here, the basic directions are:
* get out of the park between 158 and 181st street. you&#039;d have to be blind to miss the obvious stairs out. All of them involve big hills, sorry.
* Go to 181 and Fort Washington Stret.
* The south ramp is accessible on the street immediately south the bridge. Go down the hill. The north ramp is accessible immediately north of the bridge, but seems to be open less often (I took it a few months ago, but it was closed when I came back again. Too bad - I think it&#039;s the nicer one.)

This is also labeled in detail on the NYC bike map if I recall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not that hard. The directions they gave have a huge hill; you go from water level to the height of the bridge deck (160 feet or more?) in a very short distance.</p>
<p>As you can plainly see from the map and comments here, the basic directions are:<br />
* get out of the park between 158 and 181st street. you&#8217;d have to be blind to miss the obvious stairs out. All of them involve big hills, sorry.<br />
* Go to 181 and Fort Washington Stret.<br />
* The south ramp is accessible on the street immediately south the bridge. Go down the hill. The north ramp is accessible immediately north of the bridge, but seems to be open less often (I took it a few months ago, but it was closed when I came back again. Too bad &#8211; I think it&#8217;s the nicer one.)</p>
<p>This is also labeled in detail on the NYC bike map if I recall.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan Lee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan Lee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 15:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t go across the GWB often enough to generalize that this is always the case, but every time I travel across, one of the pedestrian paths is closed. Last time I went across, June 26th, it was the south side that was closed. 

Of course, dumb luck would have me, without fail, choosing the closed side as my route. Then, I have to circle around and try the other entrance. 

Looking forward to the river road map Aaron J, as last time I couldn&#039;t figure it out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t go across the GWB often enough to generalize that this is always the case, but every time I travel across, one of the pedestrian paths is closed. Last time I went across, June 26th, it was the south side that was closed. </p>
<p>Of course, dumb luck would have me, without fail, choosing the closed side as my route. Then, I have to circle around and try the other entrance. </p>
<p>Looking forward to the river road map Aaron J, as last time I couldn&#8217;t figure it out.</p>
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		<title>By: Lazy Jogger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lazy Jogger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Jul 2009 09:57:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Am I missing something here? Isn&#039;t the north side ped/bike access (the one with stairs) to the GWB closed, and has been closed for a while? The gate is padlocked and there&#039;s a sign saying &quot;north side closed, use south side entrance on 17Xth st&quot; or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am I missing something here? Isn&#8217;t the north side ped/bike access (the one with stairs) to the GWB closed, and has been closed for a while? The gate is padlocked and there&#8217;s a sign saying &#8220;north side closed, use south side entrance on 17Xth st&#8221; or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: AaronJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>AaronJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 14:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just want to thank all the Streetsblog commentors, and particularly the anonymous-mapmaker, for responding to the request for directions!  I will try these soon.  Next request:  a similar map for the NJ side, to get a firsttimer successfully from the bridge to the river road</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just want to thank all the Streetsblog commentors, and particularly the anonymous-mapmaker, for responding to the request for directions!  I will try these soon.  Next request:  a similar map for the NJ side, to get a firsttimer successfully from the bridge to the river road</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 20:21:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the basics? GWB signs starting around the 165th Street exit (near the restrooms) where some people seem to become confused. I&#039;d imagine people are reluctant to climb that steep hill behind the lighthouse unless they&#039;re reasonable confident it&#039;ll take them where they want to go. Additional street signage leading to the GWB Pedestrian Paths would keep peds and cyclists from wandering around the area aimlessly.

Beyond that,  lights on that lighthouse hill, lights along that stretch where the greenway runs along the Amtrak tracks in Fort Washington Park would be a real plus. That area, particularly the steep downhill,  can be pretty scary after dark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the basics? GWB signs starting around the 165th Street exit (near the restrooms) where some people seem to become confused. I&#8217;d imagine people are reluctant to climb that steep hill behind the lighthouse unless they&#8217;re reasonable confident it&#8217;ll take them where they want to go. Additional street signage leading to the GWB Pedestrian Paths would keep peds and cyclists from wandering around the area aimlessly.</p>
<p>Beyond that,  lights on that lighthouse hill, lights along that stretch where the greenway runs along the Amtrak tracks in Fort Washington Park would be a real plus. That area, particularly the steep downhill,  can be pretty scary after dark.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:52:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone needs to pressure the Port Authority to keep the GW Bridge open for a larger part of the day.  If you get stuck on one side and need to be on the other side without a car after midnight (at the latest), you&#039;re screwed.  Compare with the city- or MTA-owned bridges (Queensbridge, Brooklyn, Manhattan) which are open 24 hours a day.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone needs to pressure the Port Authority to keep the GW Bridge open for a larger part of the day.  If you get stuck on one side and need to be on the other side without a car after midnight (at the latest), you&#8217;re screwed.  Compare with the city- or MTA-owned bridges (Queensbridge, Brooklyn, Manhattan) which are open 24 hours a day.</p>
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		<title>By: The Office</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Office</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>might want to check out (especially pages 62-69) for some recommendations on improving access to the GWB  http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/transportation/td_uppermn.shtml</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>might want to check out (especially pages 62-69) for some recommendations on improving access to the GWB  <a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/transportation/td_uppermn.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcp/html/transportation/td_uppermn.shtml</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dave Stewart</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave Stewart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 19:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I often run this way.  

The switchback prior to the 181st St. crossover is not such a bad thing.  I believe that it exists in order to mitigate the grade change and avoid the need for stairs in what would otherwise be too steep a climb from river level to highway and bridge level.

The route is generally pretty clean and well maintained.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I often run this way.  </p>
<p>The switchback prior to the 181st St. crossover is not such a bad thing.  I believe that it exists in order to mitigate the grade change and avoid the need for stairs in what would otherwise be too steep a climb from river level to highway and bridge level.</p>
<p>The route is generally pretty clean and well maintained.</p>
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		<title>By: Shemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>GWB south path - this is the fully ramped side.   Cabrini Blvd and 178th Street.  Access Cabrini via 177th and Fort Washington.  From the intersection, go toward the river along the sidewalk on the south side of 178th and you will see the left turn onto the ramp that takes bikes/peds up onto the bridge.  This path has been closed on recent weekdays because of work on the bridge.

GWB north path - this one has stairs on both sides.  From Fort Washington, go toward the river on 179th Street.  You will see the entrance to the path alongside the bridge upper roadway lanes.   


Stacy posted the access maps for these paths yesterday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>GWB south path &#8211; this is the fully ramped side.   Cabrini Blvd and 178th Street.  Access Cabrini via 177th and Fort Washington.  From the intersection, go toward the river along the sidewalk on the south side of 178th and you will see the left turn onto the ramp that takes bikes/peds up onto the bridge.  This path has been closed on recent weekdays because of work on the bridge.</p>
<p>GWB north path &#8211; this one has stairs on both sides.  From Fort Washington, go toward the river on 179th Street.  You will see the entrance to the path alongside the bridge upper roadway lanes.   </p>
<p>Stacy posted the access maps for these paths yesterday.</p>
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		<title>By: Charley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:30:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The access to 181 from the greenway is easy, but I always end up going in circles around Washington Heights trying to find the GWB access.  I can never manage to find it on my first try!

Everyone does this.  Walk around the 180s around Fort Washington and you&#039;ll see cyclists all over the place wandering around aimlessly...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The access to 181 from the greenway is easy, but I always end up going in circles around Washington Heights trying to find the GWB access.  I can never manage to find it on my first try!</p>
<p>Everyone does this.  Walk around the 180s around Fort Washington and you&#8217;ll see cyclists all over the place wandering around aimlessly&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: mfs</title>
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		<dc:creator>mfs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 17:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Super steep hill</description>
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		<title>By: Avi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Avi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about the Port Authority keep both the north and south paths open?  That way bikers won&#039;t have to carry bikes up and down the stairs on the north side and bikers and walkers won&#039;t have to fight each other for space when the path narrows or turns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about the Port Authority keep both the north and south paths open?  That way bikers won&#8217;t have to carry bikes up and down the stairs on the north side and bikers and walkers won&#8217;t have to fight each other for space when the path narrows or turns.</p>
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		<title>By: spikex</title>
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		<dc:creator>spikex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:46:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its quite a grind up the hill to the bridge if you go that way from the shore path. Most riders prefer using Riverside dr. (from riverside dr., right on 165th, left on Ft washington, left on 177th, right on Cabrini, left on sidewalk to South entrance GW bridge). 

Alternate is to leave shore bike path at 158th and come up the hill, left on spur to Riverside dr. 

The axis to the bridge is really stupid, particularly on the north side with all its stairways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its quite a grind up the hill to the bridge if you go that way from the shore path. Most riders prefer using Riverside dr. (from riverside dr., right on 165th, left on Ft washington, left on 177th, right on Cabrini, left on sidewalk to South entrance GW bridge). </p>
<p>Alternate is to leave shore bike path at 158th and come up the hill, left on spur to Riverside dr. </p>
<p>The axis to the bridge is really stupid, particularly on the north side with all its stairways.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I wrote this morning, skirting the peak of the 181st St hill by turning right off of 181st St onto Cabrini Blvd and then left on 180th St past Pinehurst to Fort Washington Ave provides a calmer route, with fewer double-parkers and less of an incline.

For extra livable-streets credit, Brad, I would decree two-way cycle tracks, one on the west side of Cabrini Blvd from 179th to 181st Sts, and one on the south side of 179th St from Cabrini to Fort Washington. A protected bike lane along the grassy median of Plaza Lafayette, or 181st between Haven and RSD, would be nice as well.

And while you&#039;re at it, can you close back down the HHP onramp at 181st St?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I wrote this morning, skirting the peak of the 181st St hill by turning right off of 181st St onto Cabrini Blvd and then left on 180th St past Pinehurst to Fort Washington Ave provides a calmer route, with fewer double-parkers and less of an incline.</p>
<p>For extra livable-streets credit, Brad, I would decree two-way cycle tracks, one on the west side of Cabrini Blvd from 179th to 181st Sts, and one on the south side of 179th St from Cabrini to Fort Washington. A protected bike lane along the grassy median of Plaza Lafayette, or 181st between Haven and RSD, would be nice as well.</p>
<p>And while you&#8217;re at it, can you close back down the HHP onramp at 181st St?</p>
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		<title>By: cr</title>
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		<dc:creator>cr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:29:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;d be more helpful if the map showed *exactly* where the GWB bike ramps are instead of the cartoon-explosions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;d be more helpful if the map showed *exactly* where the GWB bike ramps are instead of the cartoon-explosions.</p>
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		<title>By: afs</title>
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		<dc:creator>afs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Jul 2009 16:24:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s perfectly safe, very mildly inconvenient, but not super obvious.  Better signage might be called for, but that&#039;s it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s perfectly safe, very mildly inconvenient, but not super obvious.  Better signage might be called for, but that&#8217;s it.</p>
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