Comments on: Report: NYPD Cruiser Hits Eight Pedestrians on LES [Updated] http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Nathan H. http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76721 Nathan H. Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:13:05 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76721 Everyone should oppose the conditions that bring about these violent crashes every week of the year, like clockwork. Everyone should oppose the conditions that bring about these violent crashes every week of the year, like clockwork.

]]> By: J:Lai http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76701 J:Lai Wed, 01 Jul 2009 17:00:51 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76701 This is a disgusting example of police behavior. Although I'm not a fan of Giuliani-era quality of life policing strategy, aka "broken windows", I think it could apply here. If you send the message to cops that it's ok to park their cars in illegal spots or on the sidewalk, they internalize an "above the law" attitude and eventually end up pulling stunts like the one today, injuring people and causing property damage, and sometimes killing people. And the response of the officers on the scene is equally revolting. Take care of their own (who were the cause of the problem) and ignore everyone else. This is a disgusting example of police behavior. Although I’m not a fan of Giuliani-era quality of life policing strategy, aka “broken windows”, I think it could apply here.
If you send the message to cops that it’s ok to park their cars in illegal spots or on the sidewalk, they internalize an “above the law” attitude and eventually end up pulling stunts like the one today, injuring people and causing property damage, and sometimes killing people.
And the response of the officers on the scene is equally revolting. Take care of their own (who were the cause of the problem) and ignore everyone else.

]]> By: chsforging http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76501 chsforging Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:25:26 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76501 It is a pity. Seems too many crashes happened in this week. Every one should cherish the life. Everyday should be happy. It is a pity. Seems too many crashes happened in this week. Every one should cherish the life. Everyday should be happy.

]]> By: Josh http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76491 Josh Wed, 01 Jul 2009 11:17:35 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76491 Remember, this is Avenue D. Police behave differently here, and show very little respect for the res. (Well, maybe not, on second thought, if one considers the police officer who pushed a cyclist off a bike in Times Sq.) Remember, this is Avenue D. Police behave differently here, and show very little respect for the res. (Well, maybe not, on second thought, if one considers the police officer who pushed a cyclist off a bike in Times Sq.)

]]> By: Mark Walker http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76441 Mark Walker Wed, 01 Jul 2009 02:14:57 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76441 The PIX News 10 o'clock program just reported that the first ambulance took away only the injured cops and ignored the pedestrians, including the baby. Considering what ddartley says above, I guess they did what the cops who appeared on the scene told them to do. No charges will be filed -- it was an "accident." The PIX News 10 o’clock program just reported that the first ambulance took away only the injured cops and ignored the pedestrians, including the baby. Considering what ddartley says above, I guess they did what the cops who appeared on the scene told them to do. No charges will be filed — it was an “accident.”

]]> By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76431 ddartley Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:56:16 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76431 I live close by so I headed over. Here are some pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/10798592@N08/sets/72157620792319268/ A guy who lives right at the scene had some disturbing things to say. To try to repeat what he said as accurately as I can remember, he said "80 cops" were swarming around the cops in the crashed cruiser, but not around the several people who were hit, including, he said, a baby in a stroller. When bystanders started telling the cops to attend to the other injured people, the cops started yelling "Shut up! Shut the f--- up!" at them. He said "I can understand that, I'd be like that too if it was a coworker of mine; I'd be emotional too. But after a while the 'protect and serve' instinct is supposed to kick in." He also said that the street is like a racetrack for civilians and cops alike, and that cops regularly hit people and dogs there. I did't ask him to estimate how often that happens, but I asked him to clarify--"cops often hit people and dogs here?" and he said they do. NY1 and Telemundo had vans there. I live close by so I headed over.

Here are some pictures:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/10798592@N08/sets/72157620792319268/

A guy who lives right at the scene had some disturbing things to say. To try to repeat what he said as accurately as I can remember, he said “80 cops” were swarming around the cops in the crashed cruiser, but not around the several people who were hit, including, he said, a baby in a stroller. When bystanders started telling the cops to attend to the other injured people, the cops started yelling “Shut up! Shut the f— up!” at them. He said “I can understand that, I’d be like that too if it was a coworker of mine; I’d be emotional too. But after a while the ‘protect and serve’ instinct is supposed to kick in.”

He also said that the street is like a racetrack for civilians and cops alike, and that cops regularly hit people and dogs there.

I did’t ask him to estimate how often that happens, but I asked him to clarify–”cops often hit people and dogs here?” and he said they do.

NY1 and Telemundo had vans there.

]]> By: Andy B from Jersey http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76401 Andy B from Jersey Wed, 01 Jul 2009 01:21:50 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76401 Benepe's Bicycle Blog is <a href="http://benepesbikeblog.blogspot.com/2009/06/camille-killer-acquitted.html" rel="nofollow">reporting</a> that the killer of NYC cyclist, Camille Savoy got of scot-free in a New Jersey court even though the evidnece indicated that the driver was a foot and a half over the fog line when she hit him in the shoulder of Rt 9 in Alpine. Even a pathetic careless driving ticket couldn't stick to this killer! Would the results have been the same if she killed the driver of another car?!?! Benepe’s Bicycle Blog is reporting that the killer of NYC cyclist, Camille Savoy got of scot-free in a New Jersey court even though the evidnece indicated that the driver was a foot and a half over the fog line when she hit him in the shoulder of Rt 9 in Alpine.

Even a pathetic careless driving ticket couldn’t stick to this killer!

Would the results have been the same if she killed the driver of another car?!?!

]]> By: Keith http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76391 Keith Wed, 01 Jul 2009 00:29:02 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76391 While this is horrifying, it is as far from shocking. I have been involved in many near misses with NYPD cruisers and ambulances running with out light or sirens. There is a culture of entitlement that pervades the NYPD that has convinced cops that they aren't there to enforce the law, rather that they are the law. Hence, traffic laws are only for the civilians. While this is horrifying, it is as far from shocking. I have been involved in many near misses with NYPD cruisers and ambulances running with out light or sirens. There is a culture of entitlement that pervades the NYPD that has convinced cops that they aren’t there to enforce the law, rather that they are the law. Hence, traffic laws are only for the civilians.

]]> By: Vroomfondel http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76371 Vroomfondel Tue, 30 Jun 2009 22:08:02 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76371 Mark, in the real world it's more likely that the pedestrians will be arraigned on misdemeanor charges for denting the police cruiser. Mark, in the real world it’s more likely that the pedestrians will be arraigned on misdemeanor charges for denting the police cruiser.

]]> By: Mark Walker http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/30/report-nypd-cruiser-hits-eight-pedestrians-on-les/comment-page-1/#comment-76361 Mark Walker Tue, 30 Jun 2009 21:54:14 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=7521#comment-76361 In a sane world, there would be charges, license suspension, and job loss. Watch this case to see what kind of world New Yorkers really live in. In a sane world, there would be charges, license suspension, and job loss. Watch this case to see what kind of world New Yorkers really live in.

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