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	<title>Comments on: House to Vote This Week on Weak &#8216;Cash for Clunkers&#8217; Plan</title>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69640</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cash for clunkers plan would used borrowed federal money.

Interest rates are already starting to soar from the federal government borrowing so much.  And Bernanke and Obama have already said that Social Security and Medicare benefits will have to be cut -- for future generations -- to prevent an economic meltdown.  Republicans, having pushed through a massive Medicare expansion for today&#039;s senior citizens, are also saying the debt means we can&#039;t provide any universal health benefit to younger generations.  This is what they can&#039;t afford.

And they want to borrow money so those who already have cars can get new ones.

Any decision to spend money on A means less money for B, C, etc.  Any decision to spend money now without paying for it means younger generations will be poorer.  If people are unwilling to look at any proposal like this in such a context, no wonder we are heading for an institutional collapse.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cash for clunkers plan would used borrowed federal money.</p>
<p>Interest rates are already starting to soar from the federal government borrowing so much.  And Bernanke and Obama have already said that Social Security and Medicare benefits will have to be cut -- for future generations -- to prevent an economic meltdown.  Republicans, having pushed through a massive Medicare expansion for today's senior citizens, are also saying the debt means we can't provide any universal health benefit to younger generations.  This is what they can't afford.</p>
<p>And they want to borrow money so those who already have cars can get new ones.</p>
<p>Any decision to spend money on A means less money for B, C, etc.  Any decision to spend money now without paying for it means younger generations will be poorer.  If people are unwilling to look at any proposal like this in such a context, no wonder we are heading for an institutional collapse.</p>
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		<title>By: Design New Haven</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69638</link>
		<dc:creator>Design New Haven</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Feinstein&#039;s bill is a step in the right direction, but why not also just write a direct check to anyone who trades in their &quot;clunker&quot;? There are plenty of people who would sell their hoopdie and start using other forms of transit if they had an incentive to do so.  

The $1,500 tax credit for transit is not at all an incentive to the large number of people, especially urban residents, who would walk, bike or carpool (or occasionally hop a bus) more often if they had a good reason to ditch their car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Feinstein's bill is a step in the right direction, but why not also just write a direct check to anyone who trades in their "clunker"? There are plenty of people who would sell their hoopdie and start using other forms of transit if they had an incentive to do so.  </p>
<p>The $1,500 tax credit for transit is not at all an incentive to the large number of people, especially urban residents, who would walk, bike or carpool (or occasionally hop a bus) more often if they had a good reason to ditch their car.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69635</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 15:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Giving out tax credits of $3,500 and up.&quot;

Can you imagine the outrage if someone proposed a $350 credit for a bicycle outfitted for commuting, related rain jacket and pants, locks and pannier for office clothing?

Or even a $350 line of credit to ensure bike shops will not be stuck with a loss if they weren&#039;t bought.

In response to our health problems, I&#039;d bet you are more likely to see a $5,000 credit for a car and a $1,000 credit for a stationary exercise machine.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Giving out tax credits of $3,500 and up."</p>
<p>Can you imagine the outrage if someone proposed a $350 credit for a bicycle outfitted for commuting, related rain jacket and pants, locks and pannier for office clothing?</p>
<p>Or even a $350 line of credit to ensure bike shops will not be stuck with a loss if they weren't bought.</p>
<p>In response to our health problems, I'd bet you are more likely to see a $5,000 credit for a car and a $1,000 credit for a stationary exercise machine.</p>
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		<title>By: taomom</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69601</link>
		<dc:creator>taomom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:47:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not a wild fan of &quot;cash for clunkers,&quot; but a really important difference in Feinstein&#039;s version is that the &quot;cash&quot; could be used towards transit instead of buying a new or used car. This is huge and worth fighting for. Here are the specifics from Feinstein&#039;s website:

&quot;The bill specifies that during the first year of the program, vouchers will be issued for the following amounts:

* For traded-in vehicles that are model year 2002 and later, drivers would receive a voucher for:
o The purchase of a new vehicle: $4,500
o The purchase of a used vehicle: $3,000
o Transit fare credit: $3,000
* For traded-in vehicles that are model year 1999 – 2001, drivers would receive a voucher for:
o The purchase of a new vehicle: $3,000
o The purchase of a used vehicle: $2,000
o Transit fare credit: $2,000
* For traded-in vehicles that are model year 1998 and earlier, drivers would receive a voucher for:
o The purchase of a new vehicle: $2,000
o The purchase of a used vehicle: $1,500
o Transit fare credit: $1,500&quot;

So we could potentially get cars off the roads and turn people into transit riders. This is way, way, way better than the pathetic bill going down in the House. On this one, I think Feinstein deserves our full-throated support.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not a wild fan of "cash for clunkers," but a really important difference in Feinstein's version is that the "cash" could be used towards transit instead of buying a new or used car. This is huge and worth fighting for. Here are the specifics from Feinstein's website:</p>
<p>"The bill specifies that during the first year of the program, vouchers will be issued for the following amounts:</p>
<p>* For traded-in vehicles that are model year 2002 and later, drivers would receive a voucher for:<br />
o The purchase of a new vehicle: $4,500<br />
o The purchase of a used vehicle: $3,000<br />
o Transit fare credit: $3,000<br />
* For traded-in vehicles that are model year 1999 – 2001, drivers would receive a voucher for:<br />
o The purchase of a new vehicle: $3,000<br />
o The purchase of a used vehicle: $2,000<br />
o Transit fare credit: $2,000<br />
* For traded-in vehicles that are model year 1998 and earlier, drivers would receive a voucher for:<br />
o The purchase of a new vehicle: $2,000<br />
o The purchase of a used vehicle: $1,500<br />
o Transit fare credit: $1,500"</p>
<p>So we could potentially get cars off the roads and turn people into transit riders. This is way, way, way better than the pathetic bill going down in the House. On this one, I think Feinstein deserves our full-throated support.</p>
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		<title>By: clever-title</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69598</link>
		<dc:creator>clever-title</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 01:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s a good thing that new cars are built by magical fairies that don&#039;t use any energy.  Otherwise, &quot;cash for clunkers&quot; would just be substituting tailpipe emissions with smokestack emissions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's a good thing that new cars are built by magical fairies that don't use any energy.  Otherwise, "cash for clunkers" would just be substituting tailpipe emissions with smokestack emissions.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69593</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 00:51:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... and we care about the charity car donation programs why?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>... and we care about the charity car donation programs why?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhywun</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69584</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but any plan that even the Left acknowledges is really just a means to prop up the auto industry has no business calling itself &quot;environmentally friendly&quot;.

PS. Where&#039;s the tax break for those of us who don&#039;t drive?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm sorry, but any plan that even the Left acknowledges is really just a means to prop up the auto industry has no business calling itself "environmentally friendly".</p>
<p>PS. Where's the tax break for those of us who don't drive?</p>
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		<title>By: karenc</title>
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		<dc:creator>karenc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 23:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cash for Clunkers will put every charity car donation program in the nation out of business since the amount of the voucher would be much greater than the tax deduction. The solution is to simply allow the charity to issue the voucher instead of the tax deduction. The charity would then junk the car in accordance with the bill. This way, everyone wins, the car dealer, car maker, car buyer and the charity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cash for Clunkers will put every charity car donation program in the nation out of business since the amount of the voucher would be much greater than the tax deduction. The solution is to simply allow the charity to issue the voucher instead of the tax deduction. The charity would then junk the car in accordance with the bill. This way, everyone wins, the car dealer, car maker, car buyer and the charity.</p>
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		<title>By: W. K. Lis</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/06/08/house-to-vote-this-week-on-weak-cash-for-clunkers-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-69580</link>
		<dc:creator>W. K. Lis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Jun 2009 22:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The U.S. Government in turn could then sell the &quot;old clunkers&quot; to Cuba.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The U.S. Government in turn could then sell the "old clunkers" to Cuba.</p>
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