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	<title>Comments on: Car-Free Space Is an Instant Hit on Broadway</title>
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		<title>By: Todd Edelman</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-69111</link>
		<dc:creator>Todd Edelman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jun 2009 13:13:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From City Limits: &quot;THE EYES HAVE IT: NYPD PLANS MORE CAMERAS&quot; including in Mid-Town. See http://www.citylimits.org/content/articles/viewarticle.cfm?article_id=3751</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From City Limits: "THE EYES HAVE IT: NYPD PLANS MORE CAMERAS" including in Mid-Town. See <a href="http://www.citylimits.org/content/articles/viewarticle.cfm?article_id=3751" rel="nofollow">http://www.citylimits.org/content/articles/viewarticle.cfm?article_id=3751</a></p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68731</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 23:54:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Going around town things seem to be accelerating; lots of new kermit green bike lanes in the village, around washington square park; things seem to be coming together; very encouraging.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Going around town things seem to be accelerating; lots of new kermit green bike lanes in the village, around washington square park; things seem to be coming together; very encouraging.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68722</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 21:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Go ahead and show her Andrew!  But make sure to bring her attention to my comment beneath . . . what use is a one-way cycle track?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Go ahead and show her Andrew!  But make sure to bring her attention to my comment beneath . . . what use is a one-way cycle track?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy Trafford</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68710</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy Trafford</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great videos, BicyclesOnly!  After a couple of hours reading vicious ugly comments from irate motorists who believe that traffic cops deserve to be run over and that all real New Yorkers need to drive through Times Square, I needed that....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great videos, BicyclesOnly!  After a couple of hours reading vicious ugly comments from irate motorists who believe that traffic cops deserve to be run over and that all real New Yorkers need to drive through Times Square, I needed that....</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68708</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:30:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it interesting that some of the criticism of the new space, including  Times which otherwise loved it, is that it didn&#039;t spring wholly formed and perfect in its initial incarnation?  Of course there will be tweaks along the way!  Of course some of the seating will change!  Of course the planters and bike lanes might be shifted around as time goes on.  That&#039;s not a bad thing, that&#039;s progress.  A government agency that studies how things are used and reacts with appropriate changes and improvements?  Is that a bad thing?

And besides, it&#039;s not as if roads never get improved upon or changed after they are opened.  The DOT is constantly adding or moving lanes, adding lights, changing traffic direction of some streets, etc.  Why hold pedestrian space to a different standard, then?

The new space is great and will only get better as time goes on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn't it interesting that some of the criticism of the new space, including  Times which otherwise loved it, is that it didn't spring wholly formed and perfect in its initial incarnation?  Of course there will be tweaks along the way!  Of course some of the seating will change!  Of course the planters and bike lanes might be shifted around as time goes on.  That's not a bad thing, that's progress.  A government agency that studies how things are used and reacts with appropriate changes and improvements?  Is that a bad thing?</p>
<p>And besides, it's not as if roads never get improved upon or changed after they are opened.  The DOT is constantly adding or moving lanes, adding lights, changing traffic direction of some streets, etc.  Why hold pedestrian space to a different standard, then?</p>
<p>The new space is great and will only get better as time goes on.</p>
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		<title>By: J-Uptown</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68707</link>
		<dc:creator>J-Uptown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 18:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I biked through there on Monday afternoon and this morning. Since Broadway no longer goes anywhere continuously, drivers are avoiding it like the plague. South of 42nd Street, Broadway seems overbuilt even at two lanes. On Monday I was able to walk up the middle of Broadway from 40th to 42nd Street (i.e. not in the closed section). It felt like summer streets. Today, south of 42nd st., I felt no need to bike in the bike lane, as there were so few cars on the street. That said, it is much more difficult to get through the squares than before. I&#039;ll gladly deal with it, though, if it means a generally comfortable ride or walk through Midtown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I biked through there on Monday afternoon and this morning. Since Broadway no longer goes anywhere continuously, drivers are avoiding it like the plague. South of 42nd Street, Broadway seems overbuilt even at two lanes. On Monday I was able to walk up the middle of Broadway from 40th to 42nd Street (i.e. not in the closed section). It felt like summer streets. Today, south of 42nd st., I felt no need to bike in the bike lane, as there were so few cars on the street. That said, it is much more difficult to get through the squares than before. I'll gladly deal with it, though, if it means a generally comfortable ride or walk through Midtown.</p>
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		<title>By: andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:59:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bicyclesonly, that video is too cute.
JSK Has to see it</description>
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JSK Has to see it</p>
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		<title>By: Doug Irvine</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68705</link>
		<dc:creator>Doug Irvine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walked up from 34th street this morning.  South of 42nd is more complete with chairs, tables, umbrellas, and planters.  Times Square is a work in progress.  There was lots of garbage lying around but the cleaning crew was getting to it.

Most commuters were befuddled and didn&#039;t know if they should seek the sidewalk or not.  Saw another person with a smile on his face mouth &quot;This is great&quot; to himself as he came upon this new park in midtown.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walked up from 34th street this morning.  South of 42nd is more complete with chairs, tables, umbrellas, and planters.  Times Square is a work in progress.  There was lots of garbage lying around but the cleaning crew was getting to it.</p>
<p>Most commuters were befuddled and didn't know if they should seek the sidewalk or not.  Saw another person with a smile on his face mouth "This is great" to himself as he came upon this new park in midtown.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 17:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walked through the area this morning at about 3:15am (don&#039;t ask) and it was pretty nice not to have to deal with cars coming at you from quite so many places.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walked through the area this morning at about 3:15am (don't ask) and it was pretty nice not to have to deal with cars coming at you from quite so many places.</p>
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		<title>By: Think_twice</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68698</link>
		<dc:creator>Think_twice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Didn&#039;t listen to 1010 WINS this morning so I guess I missed John Montone&#039;s sympathetic interview with an irate cabbie, followed by his puns of the Mayor and the DOT. Yeah, he&#039;s predictable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Didn't listen to 1010 WINS this morning so I guess I missed John Montone's sympathetic interview with an irate cabbie, followed by his puns of the Mayor and the DOT. Yeah, he's predictable.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:35:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cap&#039;n, don&#039;t even speculate that curbside parking will be allowed here!  If you look at the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/3566920908/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;first video&lt;/a&gt;, where we cross 56th and 55th Streets, you will see islands separating the bicycle lane from the motor vehicle traffic, at the intersections, just as on the Ninth Avenue cycle track.  I&#039;m hoping for the same treatment here, with plastic bollards strung between the islands to keep the cars out.

But seriously, the utility is limited unless there is an uptown cycle track installed on 6th Ave . .  .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cap'n, don't even speculate that curbside parking will be allowed here!  If you look at the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/3566920908/" rel="nofollow">first video</a>, where we cross 56th and 55th Streets, you will see islands separating the bicycle lane from the motor vehicle traffic, at the intersections, just as on the Ninth Avenue cycle track.  I'm hoping for the same treatment here, with plastic bollards strung between the islands to keep the cars out.</p>
<p>But seriously, the utility is limited unless there is an uptown cycle track installed on 6th Ave . .  .</p>
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		<title>By: Rhywun</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68696</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;&quot;The newest enemy of livable streets for sure are reporters for the local news&quot;&lt;/i&gt;

Reporters are essentially the same personality type as politicians. They only say what they think people want to hear, and like many politicians they&#039;ve trained themselves to believe that this is a war between the &quot;Manhattan elite&quot; and the &quot;salt of the earth driver&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>"The newest enemy of livable streets for sure are reporters for the local news"</i></p>
<p>Reporters are essentially the same personality type as politicians. They only say what they think people want to hear, and like many politicians they've trained themselves to believe that this is a war between the "Manhattan elite" and the "salt of the earth driver".</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:25:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like it will be pedestrian space (that&#039;s what the double solid line seems to mean elsewhere).

Worth noting that after the more-or-less failed experiment between 42nd and 35th with putting the bike lane in between the sidewalk and the plaza space, DOT has learned from its mistake and is now putting the plaza space next to the sidewalk, with the bike lane next to the plaza.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like it will be pedestrian space (that's what the double solid line seems to mean elsewhere).</p>
<p>Worth noting that after the more-or-less failed experiment between 42nd and 35th with putting the bike lane in between the sidewalk and the plaza space, DOT has learned from its mistake and is now putting the plaza space next to the sidewalk, with the bike lane next to the plaza.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68692</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:07:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting, Bicyclesonly.  Anyone know what&#039;s going to be in the left lane?  Car parking?  Sidewalk extension?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting, Bicyclesonly.  Anyone know what's going to be in the left lane?  Car parking?  Sidewalk extension?</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68691</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 14:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The pedestrian space near times Square is great, but let&#039;s not forget the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/sets/72157618819700506/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;transformative buffered bike path leading from Columbus Circle to Times Square?&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The pedestrian space near times Square is great, but let's not forget the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/sets/72157618819700506/" rel="nofollow">transformative buffered bike path leading from Columbus Circle to Times Square?</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/24/car-free-space-is-an-instant-hit-on-broadway/comment-page-1/#comment-68689</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:49:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Think Twice: You nailed it.  The newest enemy of livable streets for sure are reporters for the local news (I will exempt NY1 here again, since they always do the best job)

I think I have posted this here before, but I was interviewed twice on camera about Summer Streets last year.  Both times after the interview was over, reporter and I continued chatting and the reporters moaned about how events like Summer Streets are gonna make it so much harder for them to get around to cover stories.  I mean true crybaby kind of stuff here....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Think Twice: You nailed it.  The newest enemy of livable streets for sure are reporters for the local news (I will exempt NY1 here again, since they always do the best job)</p>
<p>I think I have posted this here before, but I was interviewed twice on camera about Summer Streets last year.  Both times after the interview was over, reporter and I continued chatting and the reporters moaned about how events like Summer Streets are gonna make it so much harder for them to get around to cover stories.  I mean true crybaby kind of stuff here....</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Barfowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Barfowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:21:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was actually kind of looking forward to the Willy Neumann report on car-free Broadway. If anyone would be able to find the Times Square furniture shop owner who is angry about his customers&#039; inability to double-park in front of the store, it&#039;d be good old Willy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was actually kind of looking forward to the Willy Neumann report on car-free Broadway. If anyone would be able to find the Times Square furniture shop owner who is angry about his customers' inability to double-park in front of the store, it'd be good old Willy.</p>
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		<title>By: Moser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 13:11:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No big shock that most of the NYC press corps are motorheads, suburban or otherwise - nice that the NYT kept Willy Neumann&#039;s crabby ass off the story.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No big shock that most of the NYC press corps are motorheads, suburban or otherwise - nice that the NYT kept Willy Neumann's crabby ass off the story.</p>
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		<title>By: Think_twice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Think_twice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 11:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So far everyone likes it except drivers and stasis-loving curmudgeons. But this morning I&#039;ve noticed a new demographic of haters—reporters and anchors who drive to work.

This morning it was Sukanya Krishnan—co-anchor on PIX Morning News—who said that &quot;it&#039;s good for tourists, but the rest of us have to deal with it&quot;. Speak for yourself sweetie.

Another one from a while back is CBS News&#039;s infamous Steve Bartelstein, who&#039;s reaction to the Mayor&#039;s Congestion Pricing plan was act like his cancer was going to return, shave his head, and start zapping his neighbors with lasers again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So far everyone likes it except drivers and stasis-loving curmudgeons. But this morning I've noticed a new demographic of haters—reporters and anchors who drive to work.</p>
<p>This morning it was Sukanya Krishnan—co-anchor on PIX Morning News—who said that "it's good for tourists, but the rest of us have to deal with it". Speak for yourself sweetie.</p>
<p>Another one from a while back is CBS News's infamous Steve Bartelstein, who's reaction to the Mayor's Congestion Pricing plan was act like his cancer was going to return, shave his head, and start zapping his neighbors with lasers again.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Reilly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Reilly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 May 2009 04:23:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was fantastic.  The Hebrew National dogs hit the spot, there was a variety of street entertainment, and a lot of people out there.  Between Brooklyn Bridge, Times Square and Hudson River park,  it was fantastic to see so many people enjoying the City like a giant yard.

Plus, I got to see Clarence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was fantastic.  The Hebrew National dogs hit the spot, there was a variety of street entertainment, and a lot of people out there.  Between Brooklyn Bridge, Times Square and Hudson River park,  it was fantastic to see so many people enjoying the City like a giant yard.</p>
<p>Plus, I got to see Clarence.</p>
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