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	<title>Comments on: Streetfilms: Luxe Bike Parking in Chicago</title>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68564</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 11:04:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYC DoT is fully capable of running the transformation and does not require a company like Bike and Roll to modernize this city&#039;s complex and extremely important transportation system.

Cemusa was an act of desperation at an embrionic stage when it was almost impossible to get anything done; and we have yet to see broad implementation of the promised public toilets.  

There seems to be a confidence and capability in this city administration, that they can do what has to be done; that they can make it happen; that they can empower the people of this city and give them back control of their own lives.

It is their now in 311 and the burgeoning public plazas, the accelerating bike network, the parks . . . .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYC DoT is fully capable of running the transformation and does not require a company like Bike and Roll to modernize this city&#8217;s complex and extremely important transportation system.</p>
<p>Cemusa was an act of desperation at an embrionic stage when it was almost impossible to get anything done; and we have yet to see broad implementation of the promised public toilets.  </p>
<p>There seems to be a confidence and capability in this city administration, that they can do what has to be done; that they can make it happen; that they can empower the people of this city and give them back control of their own lives.</p>
<p>It is their now in 311 and the burgeoning public plazas, the accelerating bike network, the parks . . . .</p>
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		<title>By: Miguel Marcos</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68560</link>
		<dc:creator>Miguel Marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 07:39:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great solution. Build more. Everywhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great solution. Build more. Everywhere.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68558</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 05:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>State-of-the-art is the same as space-age-polymers.  Meaning two terms I can&#039;t get out of my head from growing up watching 1980s infomercials.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>State-of-the-art is the same as space-age-polymers.  Meaning two terms I can&#8217;t get out of my head from growing up watching 1980s infomercials.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68555</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 May 2009 05:13:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rex,

Some shower advancements since hot water:

1. New kinds of shower heads (massage, etc.)
2. Handled shower heads, useful for the disabled
3. Thermostatic valve protects against scalding and provides an easier user interface.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rex,</p>
<p>Some shower advancements since hot water:</p>
<p>1. New kinds of shower heads (massage, etc.)<br />
2. Handled shower heads, useful for the disabled<br />
3. Thermostatic valve protects against scalding and provides an easier user interface.</p>
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		<title>By: rex</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68532</link>
		<dc:creator>rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:35:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is a state-of-the-art shower? I thought the art of showering was pretty much in a static state since hot water became common. Are there robots to hand you your towel or wipe the soap out of your eyes? ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is a state-of-the-art shower? I thought the art of showering was pretty much in a static state since hot water became common. Are there robots to hand you your towel or wipe the soap out of your eyes? <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68529</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:05:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>UGGHH!  My grammar is horrible!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>UGGHH!  My grammar is horrible!</p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68528</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 21:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clare D,

I&#039;m rather familiar about the Netherlands and its world leading (along with Japan) bike/transit integration.  Unfortunately I could only get to Germany this time (I&#039;ve only got family there, not in NL).  My paper is about is a critic of a local transit agency in the NY Metro area, so I tried to keep my comparisons confined to American examples.  I&#039;m only using German examples on occasions because I&#039;m most familiar with and have pictures of them.

Also, I don&#039;t think any town with rail transit in the US is up to the levels of cycling found in your average Dutch or Danish (or even German) town so comparisons to such parking facilities in those countries isn&#039;t necessarily fair at this stage of the game here in the US.

Andy B.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clare D,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m rather familiar about the Netherlands and its world leading (along with Japan) bike/transit integration.  Unfortunately I could only get to Germany this time (I&#8217;ve only got family there, not in NL).  My paper is about is a critic of a local transit agency in the NY Metro area, so I tried to keep my comparisons confined to American examples.  I&#8217;m only using German examples on occasions because I&#8217;m most familiar with and have pictures of them.</p>
<p>Also, I don&#8217;t think any town with rail transit in the US is up to the levels of cycling found in your average Dutch or Danish (or even German) town so comparisons to such parking facilities in those countries isn&#8217;t necessarily fair at this stage of the game here in the US.</p>
<p>Andy B.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68525</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding sponsorship at any other additional questions - again there are lots of answers in the Wikipedia entry which I linked to at the end of my write up on the Streetfilms website.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald&#039;s_Cycle_Center</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding sponsorship at any other additional questions &#8211; again there are lots of answers in the Wikipedia entry which I linked to at the end of my write up on the Streetfilms website.</p>
<p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald&#039;s_Cycle_Center" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonald&#039;s_Cycle_Center</a></p>
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		<title>By: Clare D a Chicagoan in The Netherlands</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68523</link>
		<dc:creator>Clare D a Chicagoan in The Netherlands</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 20:11:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Andy B:  I hope you have studied The Netherlands for examples of bicycle-transit integration.  Today, a article is my local newspaper &quot;De Haarlemmer&quot; - in Haarlem - had a front page article about the outrage of the inadequate temporary bike parking at our train station while the main square is rebuilt to incorporate a new underground bike garage for 5050 bikes and 80 mopeds. This in a town of 100,000 inhabitants.  I love Chicago and its efforts, but 500 spots in the Loop don&#039;t compare to your average metro station in Holland.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Andy B:  I hope you have studied The Netherlands for examples of bicycle-transit integration.  Today, a article is my local newspaper &#8220;De Haarlemmer&#8221; &#8211; in Haarlem &#8211; had a front page article about the outrage of the inadequate temporary bike parking at our train station while the main square is rebuilt to incorporate a new underground bike garage for 5050 bikes and 80 mopeds. This in a town of 100,000 inhabitants.  I love Chicago and its efforts, but 500 spots in the Loop don&#8217;t compare to your average metro station in Holland.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68520</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:49:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes it is the McDonald&#039;s Cycling Center due to cooperate sponsorship.  It was called the Millennium Cycling Center before that.

An interesting additional note is that the Chicago Transit Authority has indoor bicycle (but unattended) parking at nearly 90 of its transit stations.  I didn&#039;t even see anything like that in Germany last week when I was there visiting family and making observations for a paper I&#039;m doing about bicycle-transit integration.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes it is the McDonald&#8217;s Cycling Center due to cooperate sponsorship.  It was called the Millennium Cycling Center before that.</p>
<p>An interesting additional note is that the Chicago Transit Authority has indoor bicycle (but unattended) parking at nearly 90 of its transit stations.  I didn&#8217;t even see anything like that in Germany last week when I was there visiting family and making observations for a paper I&#8217;m doing about bicycle-transit integration.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68518</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what I understand Bike and Roll is doing stuff here and now with the city -- the West Side bike path, Central Park, Governor&#039;s Island, etc.  -- so developments like this are in the works.  

It probably would be better to avoid as much as possible transportation monopolies (like the Cemusa, MTA) and capture the rich diversity of this town through a multiplicity of local vendors and set the stage for an incubating environment encouraging increasingly innovative and open-ended options.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what I understand Bike and Roll is doing stuff here and now with the city &#8212; the West Side bike path, Central Park, Governor&#8217;s Island, etc.  &#8212; so developments like this are in the works.  </p>
<p>It probably would be better to avoid as much as possible transportation monopolies (like the Cemusa, MTA) and capture the rich diversity of this town through a multiplicity of local vendors and set the stage for an incubating environment encouraging increasingly innovative and open-ended options.</p>
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		<title>By: JSD</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68516</link>
		<dc:creator>JSD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 19:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Robert Moses made a career out of using eminent domain for the &quot;public good.&quot;</description>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68511</link>
		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>pal, at this point I don&#039;t think you need to exercise eminent domain--just buy up some empty commercial space in different parts of the city and put bike racks in them.

It&#039;s even possible for a private company to do this on their own--take an empty store, turn it into bike valet storage, and charge per hour and/or sell reserved spots.  Depending on how high the rent is and how many cyclists use it (though I suppose it&#039;s safe to assume that if you build it, they will come), it&#039;s possible to make this cost-competitive with subway fare.  It certainly can&#039;t be any more expensive than automobile parking in the middle of the city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>pal, at this point I don&#8217;t think you need to exercise eminent domain&#8211;just buy up some empty commercial space in different parts of the city and put bike racks in them.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s even possible for a private company to do this on their own&#8211;take an empty store, turn it into bike valet storage, and charge per hour and/or sell reserved spots.  Depending on how high the rent is and how many cyclists use it (though I suppose it&#8217;s safe to assume that if you build it, they will come), it&#8217;s possible to make this cost-competitive with subway fare.  It certainly can&#8217;t be any more expensive than automobile parking in the middle of the city.</p>
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		<title>By: Mitch</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68510</link>
		<dc:creator>Mitch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:52:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why does Chicago have this and not New York?

I&#039;m not an authority on the question, but I know that Chicago used to have a big, empty space on the lakefront a few blocks off the Loop.  Millenium Park fills that space now, and the Bike Center is one of the attractions in Millenium Park.  Since there was nothing in that area before Millenium Park, there was nothing to displace, so it was easy to find a place for a bike facility.

If you wanted the same thing in Manhattan, where would you put it?  I would guess that every suitable location already has something else on it, so building a bike garage would be much more complicated -- and expensive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why does Chicago have this and not New York?</p>
<p>I&#8217;m not an authority on the question, but I know that Chicago used to have a big, empty space on the lakefront a few blocks off the Loop.  Millenium Park fills that space now, and the Bike Center is one of the attractions in Millenium Park.  Since there was nothing in that area before Millenium Park, there was nothing to displace, so it was easy to find a place for a bike facility.</p>
<p>If you wanted the same thing in Manhattan, where would you put it?  I would guess that every suitable location already has something else on it, so building a bike garage would be much more complicated &#8212; and expensive.</p>
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		<title>By: Moser</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68509</link>
		<dc:creator>Moser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:39:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is it McDonald&#039;s cycling center?  Does the corporation sponsor it?</description>
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		<title>By: rufustfyrfly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68506</link>
		<dc:creator>rufustfyrfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:16:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah exactly, though I have never seen it elsewhere.  Admittedly, I rarely use the ferries here in NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah exactly, though I have never seen it elsewhere.  Admittedly, I rarely use the ferries here in NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: pal</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68505</link>
		<dc:creator>pal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 18:06:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why doesn&#039;t blooberg use eminent domain for good public use for once (instead of greedy developers) and grab some land for something like this in nyc. can you imagine if we had a few of these at some major hubs in the five boros?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why doesn&#8217;t blooberg use eminent domain for good public use for once (instead of greedy developers) and grab some land for something like this in nyc. can you imagine if we had a few of these at some major hubs in the five boros?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey W. Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/05/21/streetfilms-luxe-bike-parking-in-chicago/comment-page-1/#comment-68500</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeffrey W. Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Possibly it&#039;s because Mayor Daley wields near-dictatorial powers and can push through whatever he wants.  China gets to have bullet trains for the same reason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Possibly it&#8217;s because Mayor Daley wields near-dictatorial powers and can push through whatever he wants.  China gets to have bullet trains for the same reason.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:50:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Parking on a boat?  If you mean bike storage for passengers using the ferry, I think that&#039;s a feature of ferries pretty much everywhere--certainly with the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.seastreak.com/SeaStreak&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;commuter ferries&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.nywaterway.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here in NYC&lt;/a&gt;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Parking on a boat?  If you mean bike storage for passengers using the ferry, I think that&#8217;s a feature of ferries pretty much everywhere&#8211;certainly with the <a href="http://www.seastreak.com/SeaStreak" rel="nofollow">commuter ferries</a> <a href="http://www.nywaterway.com/" rel="nofollow">here in NYC</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: rufustfyrfly</title>
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		<dc:creator>rufustfyrfly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 May 2009 17:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is pretty awesome.  I think the coolest bike parking I&#039;ve seen, though, is still the bike-parking-on-a-boat on some of the ferries from San Francisco up to Marin County.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is pretty awesome.  I think the coolest bike parking I&#8217;ve seen, though, is still the bike-parking-on-a-boat on some of the ferries from San Francisco up to Marin County.</p>
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