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	<title>Comments on: We Need an Ambitious Transpo Bill. So How Are We Going to Pay for It?</title>
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		<title>By: Jim Mearkle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Mearkle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Sep 2009 22:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The best way to fund the next &quot;TEA&quot; is to improve the efficiency of the federal aid process. Strip out all the &quot;administrivia&quot; and the perverse incentives. 

For example, the county public works department I work for is replacing a mid-sized bridge. We had low bid to design the bridge under $50,000, and an estimated construction cost of $500,000. Then we got it on the federal aid list, and these costs became $500,000 and $1,000,000. The added hoops to jump through when federal aid is involved inflate the costs in a way I think is as bad as the Defense Department&#039;s $2000 hammers.

Since federal aid pays for 80% of the project, it makes sense for the county to apply for federal aid. This is a perverse incentive. We are rewarded for pursuing a funding source that inflates the overall project cost, because it reduces our cost.

So, to pay for transportation, we need to out as many as the additional hoops to jump through as we can, while still maintaining accountability. That&#039;s the administrivia part.

To remove the perverse incentives, perhaps some sort of means test is needed to see if an agency really needs federal aid for a project. For a small town with a $1/2M annual budget, federal aid for a $1/2M bridge makes sense. In our case, it did not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best way to fund the next "TEA" is to improve the efficiency of the federal aid process. Strip out all the "administrivia" and the perverse incentives. </p>
<p>For example, the county public works department I work for is replacing a mid-sized bridge. We had low bid to design the bridge under $50,000, and an estimated construction cost of $500,000. Then we got it on the federal aid list, and these costs became $500,000 and $1,000,000. The added hoops to jump through when federal aid is involved inflate the costs in a way I think is as bad as the Defense Department's $2000 hammers.</p>
<p>Since federal aid pays for 80% of the project, it makes sense for the county to apply for federal aid. This is a perverse incentive. We are rewarded for pursuing a funding source that inflates the overall project cost, because it reduces our cost.</p>
<p>So, to pay for transportation, we need to out as many as the additional hoops to jump through as we can, while still maintaining accountability. That's the administrivia part.</p>
<p>To remove the perverse incentives, perhaps some sort of means test is needed to see if an agency really needs federal aid for a project. For a small town with a $1/2M annual budget, federal aid for a $1/2M bridge makes sense. In our case, it did not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 May 2009 00:23:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Chris, is there any evidence that a VMT tax is more politically palatable than an increased gas tax? Mr. LaHood&#039;s muzzling would seem to indicate otherwise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Chris, is there any evidence that a VMT tax is more politically palatable than an increased gas tax? Mr. LaHood's muzzling would seem to indicate otherwise.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian, 

As you and others note, there are solid arguments against a VMT-based scheme. 

Gas tax increases poll poorly, and politicians are thus very reluctant to increase them.  Hasn&#039;t happened here in CA since the early 90&#039;s.  They won&#039;t even index it to inflation. I&#039;m with you at a policy level;  for the next decade or two, it&#039;s probably the best way to go.  

Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian, </p>
<p>As you and others note, there are solid arguments against a VMT-based scheme. </p>
<p>Gas tax increases poll poorly, and politicians are thus very reluctant to increase them.  Hasn't happened here in CA since the early 90's.  They won't even index it to inflation. I'm with you at a policy level;  for the next decade or two, it's probably the best way to go.  </p>
<p>Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,

Respectfully, the existence fuel-efficient vehicles are not a justification for a VMT tax; you can get the same effect by increasing the gas excise tax, or by automatically adjusting that to the average vehicle efficiency.  The issue of vehicles that don&#039;t use gas freeriding on those that do is simply not a problem that we have today. If we do get to a point where fuel-free vehicles constitute more than, say, 5% of the vehicles on the road (as opposed to the current ~0.001% we have today), that would be an appropriate time to revisit this issue.

Cheers,

--Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,</p>
<p>Respectfully, the existence fuel-efficient vehicles are not a justification for a VMT tax; you can get the same effect by increasing the gas excise tax, or by automatically adjusting that to the average vehicle efficiency.  The issue of vehicles that don't use gas freeriding on those that do is simply not a problem that we have today. If we do get to a point where fuel-free vehicles constitute more than, say, 5% of the vehicles on the road (as opposed to the current ~0.001% we have today), that would be an appropriate time to revisit this issue.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>--Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/29/we-need-an-ambitious-transpo-bill-so-how-are-we-going-to-pay-for-it/comment-page-1/#comment-67201</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 13:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There is a strong push by Transportation For America and its coalition of activist groups to shift federal transit spending from roads to transit.&quot;

I&#039;ll be happy if you are right.  And surprised.

For one thing there isn&#039;t enough money to maintain the roads and bridges we have, let alone pay for new ones (something that I agree should be stopped).  For another, like the Republicans the Democrats don&#039;t actually believe what they say they believe, they believe what they are paid to believe.

A little story.  Back in the early 1990s, I was assigned to work with the City Planning Commission on parts of the charter mandated (but never repeated) Planning and Zoning report.  The Commission was stuffed with Dinkins appointees with Great Society backgrounds and ideas, but the city was broke.  So the answer they wanted to give to everything was federal money.  Poverty?  Federal money.  Infrastructure?  Federal money.  Education?  Federal money.  Housing?  Federal money.

Finally I couldn&#039;t stand it anymore.  Does the Commission believe, I asked, that New York City given its needs and its federal tax payments, the NYC was getting a fair share of the federal money that was already being spent?  NO! they all agreed.  Then what made them think that having the federal government spend more non-entitlement money (ie. discretionary and politically controlled) would direct more money to the city?  Because, they said, it was the additional money that WASN&#039;T being spent that would have been spent in NYC.

Then we had a Democratic congress and President (Clinton).  NY paid more and got screwed.  Then we had a whole new type of federal spending (Homeland Security) based on a devastating attack on NYC.  NYC got screwed.

NY has lots of rich and well connected people who want to run the world.  And they are happy to sell out the interests of the little people, in how much in taxes they pay and what they get in return, in exchange for the advancement of their personal power, a deal others are often willing to take.

Ask the leadership of our state.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"There is a strong push by Transportation For America and its coalition of activist groups to shift federal transit spending from roads to transit."</p>
<p>I'll be happy if you are right.  And surprised.</p>
<p>For one thing there isn't enough money to maintain the roads and bridges we have, let alone pay for new ones (something that I agree should be stopped).  For another, like the Republicans the Democrats don't actually believe what they say they believe, they believe what they are paid to believe.</p>
<p>A little story.  Back in the early 1990s, I was assigned to work with the City Planning Commission on parts of the charter mandated (but never repeated) Planning and Zoning report.  The Commission was stuffed with Dinkins appointees with Great Society backgrounds and ideas, but the city was broke.  So the answer they wanted to give to everything was federal money.  Poverty?  Federal money.  Infrastructure?  Federal money.  Education?  Federal money.  Housing?  Federal money.</p>
<p>Finally I couldn't stand it anymore.  Does the Commission believe, I asked, that New York City given its needs and its federal tax payments, the NYC was getting a fair share of the federal money that was already being spent?  NO! they all agreed.  Then what made them think that having the federal government spend more non-entitlement money (ie. discretionary and politically controlled) would direct more money to the city?  Because, they said, it was the additional money that WASN'T being spent that would have been spent in NYC.</p>
<p>Then we had a Democratic congress and President (Clinton).  NY paid more and got screwed.  Then we had a whole new type of federal spending (Homeland Security) based on a devastating attack on NYC.  NYC got screwed.</p>
<p>NY has lots of rich and well connected people who want to run the world.  And they are happy to sell out the interests of the little people, in how much in taxes they pay and what they get in return, in exchange for the advancement of their personal power, a deal others are often willing to take.</p>
<p>Ask the leadership of our state.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Properly retrofitting and greening the transportation evironment would amplify stimulus actions by reducing transportation costs, providing green jobs, improved mobility and safety.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Properly retrofitting and greening the transportation evironment would amplify stimulus actions by reducing transportation costs, providing green jobs, improved mobility and safety.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We should be retrofitting our transportation environment by eliminating supersized and overpowered vehicles just like we are starting to retofit our built environment (at least here in New York).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We should be retrofitting our transportation environment by eliminating supersized and overpowered vehicles just like we are starting to retofit our built environment (at least here in New York).</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It boils down to the need to fund transportation infrastructure construction, rehab and maintenance.  Cars are increasingly fuel efficient; With luck, most will run on no or little gasoline in a decade or two, making the present per-gallon gas tax increasingly ineffective at generating revenue.  How, then, to pay for roads, transit, etc?  Thus, consideration of a user fee based on VMT.  Typically, the VMT fee/tax is contemplated as a supplement to, not a replacement for, the current excise tax.


&gt;Ian Turner

So, what exactly is the policy justification for taxing VMT instead of gas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It boils down to the need to fund transportation infrastructure construction, rehab and maintenance.  Cars are increasingly fuel efficient; With luck, most will run on no or little gasoline in a decade or two, making the present per-gallon gas tax increasingly ineffective at generating revenue.  How, then, to pay for roads, transit, etc?  Thus, consideration of a user fee based on VMT.  Typically, the VMT fee/tax is contemplated as a supplement to, not a replacement for, the current excise tax.</p>
<p>&gt;Ian Turner</p>
<p>So, what exactly is the policy justification for taxing VMT instead of gas?</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 04:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LJR, go for it.  Having been through several of these reauthorizations, I note only that the terms of debate seem to have shifted in our favor.    Yes, Obama will only go as far as we make (or permit) him.  By all means, l&#039;audace, l&#039;audace, l&#039;audace!

&gt;LJR

Chris, how low do you want to set the bar?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LJR, go for it.  Having been through several of these reauthorizations, I note only that the terms of debate seem to have shifted in our favor.    Yes, Obama will only go as far as we make (or permit) him.  By all means, l'audace, l'audace, l'audace!</p>
<p>&gt;LJR</p>
<p>Chris, how low do you want to set the bar?</p>
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		<title>By: Kaja Geis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaja Geis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 03:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A VMT tax will also report every mile traveled by every citizen in a car to the government. 

Some things are more important than transit policy; basic goddamned liberty is among them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A VMT tax will also report every mile traveled by every citizen in a car to the government. </p>
<p>Some things are more important than transit policy; basic goddamned liberty is among them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So, what exactly is the policy justification for taxing VMT instead of gas?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, what exactly is the policy justification for taxing VMT instead of gas?</p>
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		<title>By: LJR</title>
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		<dc:creator>LJR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:57:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, how low do you want to set the bar? No sticks and a couple small carrots is not going to change much. So, you achieve wonders and double bike mode share, that&#039;ll be something like 2%. Yeah, better than nothing, but outside of a handful of center cities, you&#039;re not going to see many cyclists.  Driving is so massively subsidized by both the private and public sector via free parking, absence of cost accounting for crashes, air pollution, traffic congestion etc that there has got to be some form of pricing. Obama has his limits, and it really shows when it comes to transportation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, how low do you want to set the bar? No sticks and a couple small carrots is not going to change much. So, you achieve wonders and double bike mode share, that'll be something like 2%. Yeah, better than nothing, but outside of a handful of center cities, you're not going to see many cyclists.  Driving is so massively subsidized by both the private and public sector via free parking, absence of cost accounting for crashes, air pollution, traffic congestion etc that there has got to be some form of pricing. Obama has his limits, and it really shows when it comes to transportation.</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Siegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Apr 2009 00:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The push for transit and non-motorized trips, is coming from individual areas that have them, or are seeking them. It is non-federal.&quot;

Larry, we will see.  There is a strong push by Transportation For America and its coalition of activist groups to shift federal transit spending from roads to transit.  Given the current emphasis on global warming among the Democratic majority, I think it is possible that, after this year&#039;s TEA reauthorization, there will be a federal push for non-automotive modes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"The push for transit and non-motorized trips, is coming from individual areas that have them, or are seeking them. It is non-federal."</p>
<p>Larry, we will see.  There is a strong push by Transportation For America and its coalition of activist groups to shift federal transit spending from roads to transit.  Given the current emphasis on global warming among the Democratic majority, I think it is possible that, after this year's TEA reauthorization, there will be a federal push for non-automotive modes.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:36:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Haven&#039;t we actually overinvested in freeways and underinvested in transit, pedestrians, and bicycles? Maybe we need a shift of spending rather than an increase in spending...Remember that, when he was trying to get the stimulus bill passed, even Obama was repeating the mantra &quot;roads and bridges.&quot;

I agree with you, but in that case perhaps it&#039;s time to look outside the box.  Perhaps the best that the federal government can do is nothing, with its transportation spending eroding with gas tax revenues.

At the federal level, there will tremendous pressure, given the fix Americans have gotten themselves into, to subsidize those locked into using more public and personal resources to get by.  Mortgage relief for McMansions.  Bailouts for auto companies.  Oil anyway we can get it.

The push for transit and non-motorized trips, is coming from individual areas that have them, or are seeking them.  It is non-federal.

You may recall that NYC recovered from its long decline in the Reagan era.  It wasn&#039;t due to help from the Reagan Administration -- just a malign neglect.  The federal government stopped subsidizing new water and sewer systems for new suburbs, and that made what the cities already had more valuable.

Me, I&#039;m hoping for national health care financing.  It would free up money for NYC to set its own course, and take away federal money that can be used to do more damage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"Haven't we actually overinvested in freeways and underinvested in transit, pedestrians, and bicycles? Maybe we need a shift of spending rather than an increase in spending...Remember that, when he was trying to get the stimulus bill passed, even Obama was repeating the mantra "roads and bridges."</p>
<p>I agree with you, but in that case perhaps it's time to look outside the box.  Perhaps the best that the federal government can do is nothing, with its transportation spending eroding with gas tax revenues.</p>
<p>At the federal level, there will tremendous pressure, given the fix Americans have gotten themselves into, to subsidize those locked into using more public and personal resources to get by.  Mortgage relief for McMansions.  Bailouts for auto companies.  Oil anyway we can get it.</p>
<p>The push for transit and non-motorized trips, is coming from individual areas that have them, or are seeking them.  It is non-federal.</p>
<p>You may recall that NYC recovered from its long decline in the Reagan era.  It wasn't due to help from the Reagan Administration -- just a malign neglect.  The federal government stopped subsidizing new water and sewer systems for new suburbs, and that made what the cities already had more valuable.</p>
<p>Me, I'm hoping for national health care financing.  It would free up money for NYC to set its own course, and take away federal money that can be used to do more damage.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris in Sacramento</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris in Sacramento</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 23:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If our movement&#039;s &quot;problem&quot; is an Administration focused on &lt;i&gt;&quot;rethinking existing transportation priorities&lt;/i&gt; [and]&lt;i&gt;... expanding the transportation choices available to American families&lt;/i&gt;&quot; tussling with congressional leadership hell-bent on instituting a VMT tax, I can live with that!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If our movement's "problem" is an Administration focused on <i>"rethinking existing transportation priorities</i> [and]<i>... expanding the transportation choices available to American families</i>" tussling with congressional leadership hell-bent on instituting a VMT tax, I can live with that!</p>
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		<title>By: Charles Siegel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Charles Siegel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the next surface transportation bill must reverse years of underinvestment in the nation&#039;s infrastructure.&quot;

Haven&#039;t we actually overinvested in freeways and underinvested in transit, pedestrians, and bicycles?  Maybe we need a shift of spending rather than an increase in spending. 

A carbon tax or cap and trade can discourage driving and use the money to develop alternative energy.  

A gas tas or VMT tax will discourage driving, but the political reality is that much of the additional money it raises will go into building freeways, which will encourage driving. 

Remember that, when he was trying to get the stimulus bill passed, even Obama was repeating the mantra &quot;roads and bridges.&quot;  If they try to pass an increased gas or VMT tax, it will be based on the same mantra. 

Of course, we are just talking about transportation infrastructure here - not about other needed infrastructure such as a smart grid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"the next surface transportation bill must reverse years of underinvestment in the nation's infrastructure."</p>
<p>Haven't we actually overinvested in freeways and underinvested in transit, pedestrians, and bicycles?  Maybe we need a shift of spending rather than an increase in spending. </p>
<p>A carbon tax or cap and trade can discourage driving and use the money to develop alternative energy.  </p>
<p>A gas tas or VMT tax will discourage driving, but the political reality is that much of the additional money it raises will go into building freeways, which will encourage driving. </p>
<p>Remember that, when he was trying to get the stimulus bill passed, even Obama was repeating the mantra "roads and bridges."  If they try to pass an increased gas or VMT tax, it will be based on the same mantra. </p>
<p>Of course, we are just talking about transportation infrastructure here - not about other needed infrastructure such as a smart grid.</p>
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		<title>By: Moser</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moser</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 21:56:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m tired of the canard that the &quot;downward trend in driving&quot; has broken the Highway Trust Fund.  The fact is that Congress increased spending in 1998 and 2005 without adding any major new revenues to transportation, and that the buying power of the U.S. gas tax has been eroding since it was last increased during Bill Clinton&#039;s first term.  It&#039;s a long-term failure to face facts, not some sudden new trend.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm tired of the canard that the "downward trend in driving" has broken the Highway Trust Fund.  The fact is that Congress increased spending in 1998 and 2005 without adding any major new revenues to transportation, and that the buying power of the U.S. gas tax has been eroding since it was last increased during Bill Clinton's first term.  It's a long-term failure to face facts, not some sudden new trend.</p>
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		<title>By: Mr. Doughnut</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mr. Doughnut</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Apr 2009 20:44:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It maybe political reality, but this is still doughnut based policy making. In doughnut land they figure out what matters most and then cut it out of the center. To get people out of cars requires two things: a price signal and alternative ways of getting around. A VMT or higher gas tax or carbon tax helps do both. It makes motorists pay more of the cost of their driving (thereby encouraging smarter land use and reduced driving,) and helps fund alternatives and existing infrastructure. Like Oberstar says, a VMT tax would make a lot of sense. Well gosh darn it, the USDOT better not talk about it then. Thank God for the US senate where a couple of senators from South Dakota can stop just about anything.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It maybe political reality, but this is still doughnut based policy making. In doughnut land they figure out what matters most and then cut it out of the center. To get people out of cars requires two things: a price signal and alternative ways of getting around. A VMT or higher gas tax or carbon tax helps do both. It makes motorists pay more of the cost of their driving (thereby encouraging smarter land use and reduced driving,) and helps fund alternatives and existing infrastructure. Like Oberstar says, a VMT tax would make a lot of sense. Well gosh darn it, the USDOT better not talk about it then. Thank God for the US senate where a couple of senators from South Dakota can stop just about anything.</p>
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