Comments on: Pro-Parking Policies Will Sully the Legacy of PlaNYC http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/27/pro-parking-policies-will-sully-the-legacy-of-planyc/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 00:01:47 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Tom http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/27/pro-parking-policies-will-sully-the-legacy-of-planyc/comment-page-1/#comment-67351 Tom Sun, 03 May 2009 18:36:29 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5985#comment-67351 Rhywun, be careful what you wish for. In 90% of neighborhoods the biggest priorities (at least as expressed by the community boards, i.e. those residents with the time to be outspoken) are more parking, less "killer" bicyclists, and more parking. Rhywun, be careful what you wish for. In 90% of neighborhoods the biggest priorities (at least as expressed by the community boards, i.e. those residents with the time to be outspoken) are more parking, less "killer" bicyclists, and more parking.

]]> By: Rhywun http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/27/pro-parking-policies-will-sully-the-legacy-of-planyc/comment-page-1/#comment-67086 Rhywun Tue, 28 Apr 2009 02:52:46 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5985#comment-67086 I am merely stating the present reality. But since you have ascribed a moral position to my description, I will elaborate simply by positing that "change" occurs most readily from the bottom up. Frankly, I distrust "top-down" decision making. What's right for you is not necessarily right for me. I +like+ the fact that different neighborhoods in NYC offer different environments. I am merely stating the present reality. But since you have ascribed a moral position to my description, I will elaborate simply by positing that "change" occurs most readily from the bottom up. Frankly, I distrust "top-down" decision making. What's right for you is not necessarily right for me. I +like+ the fact that different neighborhoods in NYC offer different environments.

]]> By: Niccolo Machiavelli http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/27/pro-parking-policies-will-sully-the-legacy-of-planyc/comment-page-1/#comment-67084 Niccolo Machiavelli Tue, 28 Apr 2009 01:54:48 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5985#comment-67084 Once again I think Rhywun is completely off base. So much so that it is discouraging countering the silly NIMBY arguments. The great thing about NYC, and what distinguishes its planning process from the suburbs and exurbs and upstate is that decisions are supposed to be made for the good and welfare entire city not any particular segment thereof. "I guess it's up to individual neighborhoods to make their own rules." I don't personally agree with many of the planning choices made by Mr. Bloomberg and Ms. Burden but I am certainly not hopeful of turning that decision-making over to the neighborhood Yentas. Once again I think Rhywun is completely off base. So much so that it is discouraging countering the silly NIMBY arguments. The great thing about NYC, and what distinguishes its planning process from the suburbs and exurbs and upstate is that decisions are supposed to be made for the good and welfare entire city not any particular segment thereof. "I guess it's up to individual neighborhoods to make their own rules." I don't personally agree with many of the planning choices made by Mr. Bloomberg and Ms. Burden but I am certainly not hopeful of turning that decision-making over to the neighborhood Yentas.

]]> By: Rhywun http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/27/pro-parking-policies-will-sully-the-legacy-of-planyc/comment-page-1/#comment-67079 Rhywun Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:59:08 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5985#comment-67079 The disconnect is just another symptom of the city pretending that any borough which is not Manhattan might as well be Jersey or LI, and treating them as such. And you're right, they are NOT that stupid, they just don't give a s--t about the outer boroughs, especially since the congestion problem won't begin to manifest itself until shortly after the current clowns have moved up or retired to some cushy private law practice. I guess it's up to individual neighborhoods to make their own rules. For example, I lived in Astoria for 7 years, and watched dozens of new high-rises go up in place of 3-story flats, and of course every single one of them provided parking in the rear or below. Will the streets be able to handle all the extra traffic? Who knows. Now I live in Bay Ridge, where apparently the community got the zoning changed to prevent this, because there is no such building boom going on here. Or at least not near me, which is all 2 and 3 family brownstones for blocks around. Which presents its own problems over time with skyrocketing rents faced by newcomers who want to live in such a neighborhood but that's another issue. The disconnect is just another symptom of the city pretending that any borough which is not Manhattan might as well be Jersey or LI, and treating them as such. And you're right, they are NOT that stupid, they just don't give a s--t about the outer boroughs, especially since the congestion problem won't begin to manifest itself until shortly after the current clowns have moved up or retired to some cushy private law practice.

I guess it's up to individual neighborhoods to make their own rules. For example, I lived in Astoria for 7 years, and watched dozens of new high-rises go up in place of 3-story flats, and of course every single one of them provided parking in the rear or below. Will the streets be able to handle all the extra traffic? Who knows.

Now I live in Bay Ridge, where apparently the community got the zoning changed to prevent this, because there is no such building boom going on here. Or at least not near me, which is all 2 and 3 family brownstones for blocks around. Which presents its own problems over time with skyrocketing rents faced by newcomers who want to live in such a neighborhood but that's another issue.

]]> By: Free Parking http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/27/pro-parking-policies-will-sully-the-legacy-of-planyc/comment-page-1/#comment-67076 Free Parking Mon, 27 Apr 2009 20:02:37 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5985#comment-67076 All the ginormous new parking lots at the new big box complexes are free. What's really sick is that they could be self-financing if the mall owners charged for them. Instead the tax payer is subsidizing them. Free, ample parking is one of the selling points for these big boxers. All the ginormous new parking lots at the new big box complexes are free. What's really sick is that they could be self-financing if the mall owners charged for them. Instead the tax payer is subsidizing them. Free, ample parking is one of the selling points for these big boxers.

]]> By: aliostuni http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/27/pro-parking-policies-will-sully-the-legacy-of-planyc/comment-page-1/#comment-67075 aliostuni Mon, 27 Apr 2009 19:37:34 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5985#comment-67075 Off-street parking could be great, if free on-street parking is removed at a 1:1 ratio. Use that real estate for pedestrian and cyclist-friendly improvements. Charge for the off-street parking and funnel that money into public transit. No more subsidies for fossil-fuel consuming vehicles! Off-street parking could be great, if free on-street parking is removed at a 1:1 ratio. Use that real estate for pedestrian and cyclist-friendly improvements. Charge for the off-street parking and funnel that money into public transit. No more subsidies for fossil-fuel consuming vehicles!

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