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	<title>Comments on: What Can We Learn from Oregon&#8217;s Mileage Tax Experiment?</title>
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		<title>By: jmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>jmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A gas tax is so logical and requires absolutely no additional infrastructure. This is a waste of time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A gas tax is so logical and requires absolutely no additional infrastructure. This is a waste of time.</p>
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		<title>By: cw</title>
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		<dc:creator>cw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 20:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this post is a little inaccurate.  Even here in Portland, the mileage tax is NOT popular.  While the recent media coverage has become less outraged in the past year, the governor&#039;s proposal to expand the pilot to a statewide program was met with fierce public resistance. 

The issue of the self-selecting population who elected to participate and then rated the program favorably is a huge issue here.  Don&#039;t get me wrong, I don&#039;t have a car and take public transit or bike everywhere and am in favor of a mileage tax, but most people I talk to are not, even among the many progressive citizens of PDX.  The public reception to the plan in the rest of the state (the Red part) is even worse.  I think this is still a non-starter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this post is a little inaccurate.  Even here in Portland, the mileage tax is NOT popular.  While the recent media coverage has become less outraged in the past year, the governor&#8217;s proposal to expand the pilot to a statewide program was met with fierce public resistance. </p>
<p>The issue of the self-selecting population who elected to participate and then rated the program favorably is a huge issue here.  Don&#8217;t get me wrong, I don&#8217;t have a car and take public transit or bike everywhere and am in favor of a mileage tax, but most people I talk to are not, even among the many progressive citizens of PDX.  The public reception to the plan in the rest of the state (the Red part) is even worse.  I think this is still a non-starter.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea and I&#039;m angry that no one is pointing it out, especially activists.  I would like the author of this article to try and convince me otherwise.  

&quot;Privacy is protected. The state only gets odometer information, not information about vehicle location.&quot; - If this is the case, why is someone who drives 100 miles in the city being taxed the same amount as someone driving 100 miles in the country, possibly even on private roads or off-road?  It makes no sense.

You have to motivate this as being BETTER than the current system for some physical reason.  It WILL cost money to implement over the current gas tax or a higher gas tax.  What are we getting for our money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a terrible, terrible, terrible idea and I&#8217;m angry that no one is pointing it out, especially activists.  I would like the author of this article to try and convince me otherwise.  </p>
<p>&#8220;Privacy is protected. The state only gets odometer information, not information about vehicle location.&#8221; &#8211; If this is the case, why is someone who drives 100 miles in the city being taxed the same amount as someone driving 100 miles in the country, possibly even on private roads or off-road?  It makes no sense.</p>
<p>You have to motivate this as being BETTER than the current system for some physical reason.  It WILL cost money to implement over the current gas tax or a higher gas tax.  What are we getting for our money?</p>
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		<title>By: zach</title>
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		<dc:creator>zach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2009 09:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Some reasons this might be supported politically:

1. People with less efficient (read larger) vehicles tend to have more political clout, and they are the ones who benefit with mileage over gas taxes.

2. The average driver fears that his car is less efficient than the average car because he hears so much about efficient cars.

3. Novelty.  New kind of tax better than old one.

4. Drivers think they&#039;ll be able to figure out a way to outsmart it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some reasons this might be supported politically:</p>
<p>1. People with less efficient (read larger) vehicles tend to have more political clout, and they are the ones who benefit with mileage over gas taxes.</p>
<p>2. The average driver fears that his car is less efficient than the average car because he hears so much about efficient cars.</p>
<p>3. Novelty.  New kind of tax better than old one.</p>
<p>4. Drivers think they&#8217;ll be able to figure out a way to outsmart it.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 16:09:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is the public policy justification for mileage taxes over gas taxes?</description>
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		<title>By: Adam Stein</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/04/02/what-can-we-learn-from-oregons-mileage-tax-experiment/comment-page-1/#comment-65762</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Apr 2009 15:32:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for mentioning the Worldchanging post. Mileage taxes are an important topic -- and the source of lot of misinformation. One clarification, though: Oregon released this study in November 2007. The information is not particularly new, but it is generally unknown to the public. 

There&#039;s a massive disjunction between expert and lay opinion of mileage taxes (briefly, experts think they&#039;re a worthwhile policy option, the public thinks they&#039;re scary), which is part of the reason I&#039;ve been writing about them recently.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for mentioning the Worldchanging post. Mileage taxes are an important topic &#8212; and the source of lot of misinformation. One clarification, though: Oregon released this study in November 2007. The information is not particularly new, but it is generally unknown to the public. </p>
<p>There&#8217;s a massive disjunction between expert and lay opinion of mileage taxes (briefly, experts think they&#8217;re a worthwhile policy option, the public thinks they&#8217;re scary), which is part of the reason I&#8217;ve been writing about them recently.</p>
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