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		<title>By: Ashcan Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65593</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashcan Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Mar 2009 13:51:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David:  Carpooling is it&#039;s own tolling discount.  You get to split the toll by however many people are in the car.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David:  Carpooling is it&#8217;s own tolling discount.  You get to split the toll by however many people are in the car.</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65578</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 17:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If the politicians aren&#039;t giving the people what they want, why not just organize a referendum, outside their system? They will have to comply with the results.

That&#039;s democracy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the politicians aren&#8217;t giving the people what they want, why not just organize a referendum, outside their system? They will have to comply with the results.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s democracy.</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Mar 2009 14:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Howabout this idea - Put highish tolls on the bridges and allow a substantial discount for car pooling? People who complain that they cant pay can escape by reducing the amount of traffic on the streets and revenue some raised is raised for the MTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Howabout this idea &#8211; Put highish tolls on the bridges and allow a substantial discount for car pooling? People who complain that they cant pay can escape by reducing the amount of traffic on the streets and revenue some raised is raised for the MTA.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason Varone</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65559</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason Varone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 17:26:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Aaron has the right strategy here, but I fear it will take too long to make a difference.

I mean, we are up against the clock here aren&#039;t we? It is already 2009. We are supposed to reduce our carbon emissions by 80-90% in less than 41 years. Is that even possible will all of the time we have already lost?

Rising sea levels are going to make the subways difficult to maintain at some point - hopefully not too soon. But even a modest rise in sea levels will result in frequent flooding of the subways. This is why I do not support any new subways projects (2nd Ave) and I agree with Aaron that above ground public transit has to be the way forward.

As we all know, we need to take the surface back from the cars. But every time we come up with a plan, Albany blocks it.

I think the best short term goal would be to get some kind of home rule back in New York City. It is completely absurd that upstate politicians have any power whatsoever on what we are trying to do here in the city. Just to install more red light cameras has to be OKd by people who do not live here? You can&#039;t make this stuff up!

Is it even possible to get home rule back? I don&#039;t think we can accept this reality anymore. We can run against the current crop of jerks in Albany, and perhaps Paul Newell&#039;s attempt to unseat Shelly was the reason he came around on tolling the East River bridges. But wouldn&#039;t home rule make things a lot easier for us? Is this a pipe dream?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Aaron has the right strategy here, but I fear it will take too long to make a difference.</p>
<p>I mean, we are up against the clock here aren&#8217;t we? It is already 2009. We are supposed to reduce our carbon emissions by 80-90% in less than 41 years. Is that even possible will all of the time we have already lost?</p>
<p>Rising sea levels are going to make the subways difficult to maintain at some point &#8211; hopefully not too soon. But even a modest rise in sea levels will result in frequent flooding of the subways. This is why I do not support any new subways projects (2nd Ave) and I agree with Aaron that above ground public transit has to be the way forward.</p>
<p>As we all know, we need to take the surface back from the cars. But every time we come up with a plan, Albany blocks it.</p>
<p>I think the best short term goal would be to get some kind of home rule back in New York City. It is completely absurd that upstate politicians have any power whatsoever on what we are trying to do here in the city. Just to install more red light cameras has to be OKd by people who do not live here? You can&#8217;t make this stuff up!</p>
<p>Is it even possible to get home rule back? I don&#8217;t think we can accept this reality anymore. We can run against the current crop of jerks in Albany, and perhaps Paul Newell&#8217;s attempt to unseat Shelly was the reason he came around on tolling the East River bridges. But wouldn&#8217;t home rule make things a lot easier for us? Is this a pipe dream?</p>
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		<title>By: chasa</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65553</link>
		<dc:creator>chasa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 13:31:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raise some dough, find a great candidate and pick one of these guys off. I think its more important to be successful then to get them all -- at the end of the day they are cowards and just care about keeping their job.  If you defeat one, and they know you were apart of it it, they will change their behavior.  Target whoever is most vulnerable in their district.  Use Squadron&#039;s campaign as a model.....it wasn&#039;t about this issue, but everything was couched in &quot;reform&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raise some dough, find a great candidate and pick one of these guys off. I think its more important to be successful then to get them all &#8212; at the end of the day they are cowards and just care about keeping their job.  If you defeat one, and they know you were apart of it it, they will change their behavior.  Target whoever is most vulnerable in their district.  Use Squadron&#8217;s campaign as a model&#8230;..it wasn&#8217;t about this issue, but everything was couched in &#8220;reform&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Benjamin Kabak</title>
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		<dc:creator>Benjamin Kabak</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 06:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aaron, I agree with everything you said in your main post, but I can&#039;t agree with this: &lt;em&gt;- Killing the Second Avenue Subway project, replacing it with BRT and finding a way to redirect those funds elsewhere.&lt;/em&gt;

You can&#039;t replace a full subway line — or even half of a subway line — with BRT unless you&#039;re running 10 buses at a time every 4-8 minutes throughout the day. The SAS has a purpose, and it&#039;s needed. Kill the 7 line if you want to kill a superfluous project. If we start killing new subway lines just because they&#039;re expensive, nothing will ever get built, and I don&#039;t see why the city — and transit advocates — can&#039;t fight for and develop BRT and new subway lines at the same time. As Cap&#039;n Transit has noted a few times over the last few months, they shouldn&#039;t be mutually exclusive.

Yes, it&#039;s expensive. Yes, it seems like a bad time to spend that money. But when is it ever a good time to do it? It has to be done, and that&#039;s that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aaron, I agree with everything you said in your main post, but I can&#8217;t agree with this: <em>- Killing the Second Avenue Subway project, replacing it with BRT and finding a way to redirect those funds elsewhere.</em></p>
<p>You can&#8217;t replace a full subway line — or even half of a subway line — with BRT unless you&#8217;re running 10 buses at a time every 4-8 minutes throughout the day. The SAS has a purpose, and it&#8217;s needed. Kill the 7 line if you want to kill a superfluous project. If we start killing new subway lines just because they&#8217;re expensive, nothing will ever get built, and I don&#8217;t see why the city — and transit advocates — can&#8217;t fight for and develop BRT and new subway lines at the same time. As Cap&#8217;n Transit has noted a few times over the last few months, they shouldn&#8217;t be mutually exclusive.</p>
<p>Yes, it&#8217;s expensive. Yes, it seems like a bad time to spend that money. But when is it ever a good time to do it? It has to be done, and that&#8217;s that.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:39:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>if the world is going to be saved at all, it&#039;s going to be saved by women. so my only advice would be, in finding some candidates to support for office, make sure to include deserving women -- they&#039;re the only ones with enough balls take on the crooks who continue to hurt New York City.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>if the world is going to be saved at all, it&#8217;s going to be saved by women. so my only advice would be, in finding some candidates to support for office, make sure to include deserving women &#8212; they&#8217;re the only ones with enough balls take on the crooks who continue to hurt New York City.</p>
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		<title>By: Komanoff</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65538</link>
		<dc:creator>Komanoff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 03:03:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woo woo, Niccolo, first Aaron&#039;s post nailed it, now your comment nails it squared. You the man. (No joke.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woo woo, Niccolo, first Aaron&#8217;s post nailed it, now your comment nails it squared. You the man. (No joke.)</p>
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		<title>By: Niccolo Machiavelli</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65536</link>
		<dc:creator>Niccolo Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 02:43:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clearly the Greens do not have the ability or inclination to hold a gun to anyone&#039;s head.  It could be that it is simply too amorphous and squishy a philosophy to constitute an effective political fighting force. So much of their strength is sapped by counterproductive NIMBY battles that when something truly monumental and critical like the melt-down of mass transit in the most dense city in the country goes down they are unable to mount either offense or defense.  It is all sort of like a Monty Python attack on a French fort or a killer rabbit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clearly the Greens do not have the ability or inclination to hold a gun to anyone&#8217;s head.  It could be that it is simply too amorphous and squishy a philosophy to constitute an effective political fighting force. So much of their strength is sapped by counterproductive NIMBY battles that when something truly monumental and critical like the melt-down of mass transit in the most dense city in the country goes down they are unable to mount either offense or defense.  It is all sort of like a Monty Python attack on a French fort or a killer rabbit.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65522</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 00:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Creative ideas? 

- Variable time-of-day pricing.
- Removing or reducing prices on some of the far-out, transit-poor crossings like the Cross Bay Bridge. 
- Getting rid of the toll plazas and swinging arm gantries at EZ-Pass crossings so cashless drivers don&#039;t have to slow down. 
- Restoring two-way tolls on the VZ Bridge. 
- Killing the Second Avenue Subway project, replacing it with BRT and finding a way to redirect those funds elsewhere. 
- Lifetime free passes for state legislators.

The list goes on. 

Some of these ideas are probably political non-starters. Others could be pretty appealing legislators. 

And how about this: Instead of dropping a plan on the state legislature, give them a process -- a kind of transportation policy symposium for legislators. Brief them on MTA financing issues, the irrational state of current road pricing and show them all of the new technologies that are available for road pricing today. Give them a bunch of different examples for how they might work out a balance between tolls and fares and MTA financing needs. Then make them be legislators and hash out the deal that works for the majority of them. 

The problem, of course, is that Albany doesn&#039;t even have a functioning committee system. So, there&#039;s really no forum for this kind of information exchange or legislative sausage-making. Plus, they just don&#039;t seem to care.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Creative ideas? </p>
<p>- Variable time-of-day pricing.<br />
- Removing or reducing prices on some of the far-out, transit-poor crossings like the Cross Bay Bridge.<br />
- Getting rid of the toll plazas and swinging arm gantries at EZ-Pass crossings so cashless drivers don&#8217;t have to slow down.<br />
- Restoring two-way tolls on the VZ Bridge.<br />
- Killing the Second Avenue Subway project, replacing it with BRT and finding a way to redirect those funds elsewhere.<br />
- Lifetime free passes for state legislators.</p>
<p>The list goes on. </p>
<p>Some of these ideas are probably political non-starters. Others could be pretty appealing legislators. </p>
<p>And how about this: Instead of dropping a plan on the state legislature, give them a process &#8212; a kind of transportation policy symposium for legislators. Brief them on MTA financing issues, the irrational state of current road pricing and show them all of the new technologies that are available for road pricing today. Give them a bunch of different examples for how they might work out a balance between tolls and fares and MTA financing needs. Then make them be legislators and hash out the deal that works for the majority of them. </p>
<p>The problem, of course, is that Albany doesn&#8217;t even have a functioning committee system. So, there&#8217;s really no forum for this kind of information exchange or legislative sausage-making. Plus, they just don&#8217;t seem to care.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn McAnanama</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65520</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn McAnanama</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 23:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m sorry, but what are the &quot;creative ideas&quot; out there that everyone keeps talking about that weren&#039;t in the Ravitch plan? I want to see them listed out here since I must have missed something that tolling bridges to reduce traffic and fund mass transit is now considered an &quot;old idea&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but what are the &#8220;creative ideas&#8221; out there that everyone keeps talking about that weren&#8217;t in the Ravitch plan? I want to see them listed out here since I must have missed something that tolling bridges to reduce traffic and fund mass transit is now considered an &#8220;old idea&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: GRR</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 21:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From far away in San Francisco (but missing home terribly), I just want to applaud the &quot;need to join forces&quot; spirit noted here.  This isn&#039;t about transit alone, and there is no such thing as a &quot;transit-only&quot; solution.  In California, people are still siloed. 

And as far as the political realities involved, it might take a lot of inside baseball and money to win, but you can sure raise the profile of ideas in losing efforts.  Eventually, a shot at an actual win emerges.  On the national level, things were about as dark as anyone could possibly imagine four years ago, but look where we are now (leadership-wise, at least).

And actually, and ad in the Sheepshead Bay Courier isn&#039;t a bad place to start!  It&#039;s fun to throw mud before you actually have a candidate!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From far away in San Francisco (but missing home terribly), I just want to applaud the &#8220;need to join forces&#8221; spirit noted here.  This isn&#8217;t about transit alone, and there is no such thing as a &#8220;transit-only&#8221; solution.  In California, people are still siloed. </p>
<p>And as far as the political realities involved, it might take a lot of inside baseball and money to win, but you can sure raise the profile of ideas in losing efforts.  Eventually, a shot at an actual win emerges.  On the national level, things were about as dark as anyone could possibly imagine four years ago, but look where we are now (leadership-wise, at least).</p>
<p>And actually, and ad in the Sheepshead Bay Courier isn&#8217;t a bad place to start!  It&#8217;s fun to throw mud before you actually have a candidate!</p>
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		<title>By: Felix</title>
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		<dc:creator>Felix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 19:45:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our movement is led by advocates rather than organizers.  We need a group that organizes transit riders and raises money to get things done, rather than put out position papers.  It&#039;s not so hard to go after a state senator or two.  If Kruger were pissing off 1199, you can bet there would be street-level action and lots of negative publicity.  How much can it cost to run an ad in the Sheepshead Bay Courier and pay a few college kids to hand out leaflets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our movement is led by advocates rather than organizers.  We need a group that organizes transit riders and raises money to get things done, rather than put out position papers.  It&#8217;s not so hard to go after a state senator or two.  If Kruger were pissing off 1199, you can bet there would be street-level action and lots of negative publicity.  How much can it cost to run an ad in the Sheepshead Bay Courier and pay a few college kids to hand out leaflets?</p>
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		<title>By: Rhywun</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting tale, Larry. I am alternately fascinated and repulsed by politics. My way of adapting was to simply stop voting. Until this year--I think I voted for President, hit &quot;No&quot; to whatever Propositions there were, and nothing else. Even when I do vote, I refuse to vote D or R--thus, I cannot vote for most offices (or in primaries) but that&#039;s OK. I feel better that way.

As for the Ravich plan, I never thought it was particularly good either, but it was &quot;the last hope&quot;.

&gt; New York City clearly plays a critical and disproportionately large 
&gt; role in the health of New York state&#039;s overall economy.

One of the peculiarities of NYS politics is that Upstate (i.e. the rest of the state outside the NYC metropolitan area) likes to believe the exact opposite. They think we&#039;re all on welfare and their generosity in supporting us should be rewarded. This is of course complete nonsense but it sells well up there; there&#039;s a cultural divide too. Upstate is more Appalachian verging on Midwest in character than Eastern. I grew up in that area--they&#039;d just as soon see NYC drop dead.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting tale, Larry. I am alternately fascinated and repulsed by politics. My way of adapting was to simply stop voting. Until this year&#8211;I think I voted for President, hit &#8220;No&#8221; to whatever Propositions there were, and nothing else. Even when I do vote, I refuse to vote D or R&#8211;thus, I cannot vote for most offices (or in primaries) but that&#8217;s OK. I feel better that way.</p>
<p>As for the Ravich plan, I never thought it was particularly good either, but it was &#8220;the last hope&#8221;.</p>
<p>&gt; New York City clearly plays a critical and disproportionately large<br />
&gt; role in the health of New York state&#8217;s overall economy.</p>
<p>One of the peculiarities of NYS politics is that Upstate (i.e. the rest of the state outside the NYC metropolitan area) likes to believe the exact opposite. They think we&#8217;re all on welfare and their generosity in supporting us should be rewarded. This is of course complete nonsense but it sells well up there; there&#8217;s a cultural divide too. Upstate is more Appalachian verging on Midwest in character than Eastern. I grew up in that area&#8211;they&#8217;d just as soon see NYC drop dead.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:45:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I find it interesting that Silver was basically in the right camp this time around.&quot;

I wouldn&#039;t put it past him to have done everything for show to appear to be on the right side, and have someone else take the blame.  Was any plan every put to a vote in the Assembly?  No.  So there is no proof he would allow such a vote, and force the members to take a stand yea or nay.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I find it interesting that Silver was basically in the right camp this time around.&#8221;</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put it past him to have done everything for show to appear to be on the right side, and have someone else take the blame.  Was any plan every put to a vote in the Assembly?  No.  So there is no proof he would allow such a vote, and force the members to take a stand yea or nay.</p>
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		<title>By: lee w</title>
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		<dc:creator>lee w</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>really, they&#039;re closing the Begen st F/G station?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>really, they&#8217;re closing the Begen st F/G station?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Lydon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Lydon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 18:02:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not living in New York, and not knowing the history and ins-and-outs of the political machines there, I can&#039;t offer much. However, I will say this: New York City clearly plays a critical and disproportionately large role in the health of New York state&#039;s overall economy. Without NYC&#039;s powerhouse economy and all the revenue it generates, all those highways criss-crossing the state--enjoyed by many a state rep ignorant to the value of transit--would likely be in far worse shape or maybe not even exist.  

Moreover, New York City play an essential role in the health of America&#039;s economy. It is one of two major cradles of innovation for this country. For Albany to ignore those two very factors is horrifically negligent-- not only for their own constituents but for the American economy. Urbanists around the country know when New York suffers, America suffers. We need New York City to thrive now, more than ever.  

Thus, the new battle for New York City should perhaps frame the issue in a way that draws attention to these two key issues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not living in New York, and not knowing the history and ins-and-outs of the political machines there, I can&#8217;t offer much. However, I will say this: New York City clearly plays a critical and disproportionately large role in the health of New York state&#8217;s overall economy. Without NYC&#8217;s powerhouse economy and all the revenue it generates, all those highways criss-crossing the state&#8211;enjoyed by many a state rep ignorant to the value of transit&#8211;would likely be in far worse shape or maybe not even exist.  </p>
<p>Moreover, New York City play an essential role in the health of America&#8217;s economy. It is one of two major cradles of innovation for this country. For Albany to ignore those two very factors is horrifically negligent&#8211; not only for their own constituents but for the American economy. Urbanists around the country know when New York suffers, America suffers. We need New York City to thrive now, more than ever.  </p>
<p>Thus, the new battle for New York City should perhaps frame the issue in a way that draws attention to these two key issues.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/27/the-day-after/comment-page-1/#comment-65476</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:54:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find it interesting that Silver was basically in the right camp this time around.  Is it any coincidence that for the first time in forever, he had a primary challenge that at least generated some coverage and a headlines?  

Aaron&#039;s right about getting some decent candidates on the ballot, even just to create buzz.  Daniel Squadron is my rep and I told everyone I could to go out and vote for him after Connor really failed to speak up on congestion pricing.  Even though I don&#039;t agree with everything he has done thus far, we need a shake up, put all those in Albany on notice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find it interesting that Silver was basically in the right camp this time around.  Is it any coincidence that for the first time in forever, he had a primary challenge that at least generated some coverage and a headlines?  </p>
<p>Aaron&#8217;s right about getting some decent candidates on the ballot, even just to create buzz.  Daniel Squadron is my rep and I told everyone I could to go out and vote for him after Connor really failed to speak up on congestion pricing.  Even though I don&#8217;t agree with everything he has done thus far, we need a shake up, put all those in Albany on notice.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why is Streetsblog all ganging up on Ravitch plan today?&quot;

In my case, because a permanent wage tax would have been borrowed against and only funded five years of the capital plan, leaving the situation even worse in 2014.

&quot;We came a few votes short of establishing bridge tolls on all Harlem and East River crossings...&quot;

That was the good news for those expecting to continue living here more than a few years -- and the reason it was voted down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why is Streetsblog all ganging up on Ravitch plan today?&#8221;</p>
<p>In my case, because a permanent wage tax would have been borrowed against and only funded five years of the capital plan, leaving the situation even worse in 2014.</p>
<p>&#8220;We came a few votes short of establishing bridge tolls on all Harlem and East River crossings&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>That was the good news for those expecting to continue living here more than a few years &#8212; and the reason it was voted down.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2009 17:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why is Streetsblog all ganging up on Ravitch plan today? 

We came a few votes short of establishing bridge tolls on all Harlem and East River crossings...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is Streetsblog all ganging up on Ravitch plan today? </p>
<p>We came a few votes short of establishing bridge tolls on all Harlem and East River crossings&#8230;</p>
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