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		<title>By: Roberto C. Tobar</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65347</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto C. Tobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 00:47:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is, Suozzi and everyone who runs Nassau County are @$$es. At least Suffolk county won&#039;t suffer too badly in terms of buses (since they&#039;re not even part OF the MTA), though train fares will still be bad, of course. But it&#039;ll be almost impossible to live in Nassau County....unless you WORK for the MTA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is, Suozzi and everyone who runs Nassau County are @$$es. At least Suffolk county won&#8217;t suffer too badly in terms of buses (since they&#8217;re not even part OF the MTA), though train fares will still be bad, of course. But it&#8217;ll be almost impossible to live in Nassau County&#8230;.unless you WORK for the MTA.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashcan Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65276</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashcan Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 14:21:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, a gym membership is $100 a month, so could have showers at a gym near your work for the same cost as 20 subway rounds trips at $5 each.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, a gym membership is $100 a month, so could have showers at a gym near your work for the same cost as 20 subway rounds trips at $5 each.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65273</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 12:53:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>(And Long Island Bus is going to be way too expensive as it were! Why do Long Islanders always suffer the most?!)

Because Nassau and Suffolk counties stopped contributing a dime to Long Island bus years ago, that&#039;s why.  Long Islanders see it as a cattle car for the slaves (city residents) to come out and work in their low-wage jobs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(And Long Island Bus is going to be way too expensive as it were! Why do Long Islanders always suffer the most?!)</p>
<p>Because Nassau and Suffolk counties stopped contributing a dime to Long Island bus years ago, that&#8217;s why.  Long Islanders see it as a cattle car for the slaves (city residents) to come out and work in their low-wage jobs.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65267</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 03:24:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark,

Flattery will get you everywhere. ;-)

I don&#039;t mean to tar any class of people with one brush, but the relative proportions do matter (and I did use the word &quot;most&quot;, which just implies 50%). My intention is not to add to the speculative bubble but rather to point out that nobody really knows who uses what sort of payment method without some hard data. If there&#039;s one thing I&#039;ve learned about public policy, it&#039;s that you really can&#039;t generalize from personal experience --- there are too many counterintuitive truths that can only be reached from testable hypotheses.

Cheers,

--Ian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark,</p>
<p>Flattery will get you everywhere. <img src='http://www.streetsblog.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to tar any class of people with one brush, but the relative proportions do matter (and I did use the word &#8220;most&#8221;, which just implies 50%). My intention is not to add to the speculative bubble but rather to point out that nobody really knows who uses what sort of payment method without some hard data. If there&#8217;s one thing I&#8217;ve learned about public policy, it&#8217;s that you really can&#8217;t generalize from personal experience &#8212; there are too many counterintuitive truths that can only be reached from testable hypotheses.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<p>&#8211;Ian</p>
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		<title>By: Rhywun</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65265</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:38:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Right, but I&#039;m glad I&#039;m biking anyway, given the collapse of the system is the next shoe to drop.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

OK, but let&#039;s be honest. Biking is not an attractive commuting option for a lot of people. A good bike is quite expensive, and prone to theft besides. Or you could go through junkers but they require constant repairs and attention. Then there&#039;s maybe half the population who aren&#039;t physically fit enough to handle it. I think I could handle it, but I would absolutely loathe arriving at work drenched in sweat every morning. In short, I could see these fare hikes attracting a handful of biking fanatics away from transit, but hardly anyone else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Right, but I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m biking anyway, given the collapse of the system is the next shoe to drop.</p></blockquote>
<p>OK, but let&#8217;s be honest. Biking is not an attractive commuting option for a lot of people. A good bike is quite expensive, and prone to theft besides. Or you could go through junkers but they require constant repairs and attention. Then there&#8217;s maybe half the population who aren&#8217;t physically fit enough to handle it. I think I could handle it, but I would absolutely loathe arriving at work drenched in sweat every morning. In short, I could see these fare hikes attracting a handful of biking fanatics away from transit, but hardly anyone else.</p>
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		<title>By: Roberto C. Tobar</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65264</link>
		<dc:creator>Roberto C. Tobar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:26:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a Long Islander who must commute to the city every day and relies on a Monthly LIRR ticket/Metrocard combo to get around, this absolutely displeases me. As a monthly Metrocard user, I am outraged at the idea of not being allowed to use that card on a Long Island Bus ever again - so my alternative? Stay home.....or move out of NY for good. (And Long Island Bus is going to be way too expensive as it were! Why do Long Islanders always suffer the most?!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a Long Islander who must commute to the city every day and relies on a Monthly LIRR ticket/Metrocard combo to get around, this absolutely displeases me. As a monthly Metrocard user, I am outraged at the idea of not being allowed to use that card on a Long Island Bus ever again &#8211; so my alternative? Stay home&#8230;..or move out of NY for good. (And Long Island Bus is going to be way too expensive as it were! Why do Long Islanders always suffer the most?!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65263</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 01:13:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian (whose posts I read with interest, by the way): &quot;I&#039;d guess that most single-ride cardholders are people who ride the subway infrequently, which is to say tourists and those who commute via LIRR or MNRR.&quot;

It&#039;s a mistake to regard all single-ride card users as outsiders or out-of-towners. I work in a home office, use the transit system -- but not every day -- and have lived in this city for 30 years. There are also people who live near enough to their jobs to walk but use transit at other times. Then there are the elderly, who no longer work or commute, but making the occasional shopping trip. Ditto the disabled. I&#039;m sure I&#039;ve missed a few.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian (whose posts I read with interest, by the way): &#8220;I&#8217;d guess that most single-ride cardholders are people who ride the subway infrequently, which is to say tourists and those who commute via LIRR or MNRR.&#8221;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a mistake to regard all single-ride card users as outsiders or out-of-towners. I work in a home office, use the transit system &#8212; but not every day &#8212; and have lived in this city for 30 years. There are also people who live near enough to their jobs to walk but use transit at other times. Then there are the elderly, who no longer work or commute, but making the occasional shopping trip. Ditto the disabled. I&#8217;m sure I&#8217;ve missed a few.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65255</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug,

Do you have any data to support this hypothesis? I&#039;d guess that most single-ride cardholders are people who ride the subway infrequently, which is to say tourists and those who commute via LIRR or MNRR. Indeed it was this thinking that lead to the steep monthly discounts in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug,</p>
<p>Do you have any data to support this hypothesis? I&#8217;d guess that most single-ride cardholders are people who ride the subway infrequently, which is to say tourists and those who commute via LIRR or MNRR. Indeed it was this thinking that lead to the steep monthly discounts in the first place.</p>
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		<title>By: Moocow</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65246</link>
		<dc:creator>Moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You talk to people who don&#039;t even own cars who were against congestion pricing or bridge tolls because &quot;they hurt the poor&quot;.  Now what have we got?  This is going to hurt a lot of month to month NYC residents. I remember not being able to spend $100 even if it saved money in the end.

  But for me, I ride everyday, and everywhere, I rarely take the train, and  avoid cabs like the plague they are.  Only thing that will change, the people off the trains will be on the streets now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You talk to people who don&#8217;t even own cars who were against congestion pricing or bridge tolls because &#8220;they hurt the poor&#8221;.  Now what have we got?  This is going to hurt a lot of month to month NYC residents. I remember not being able to spend $100 even if it saved money in the end.</p>
<p>  But for me, I ride everyday, and everywhere, I rarely take the train, and  avoid cabs like the plague they are.  Only thing that will change, the people off the trains will be on the streets now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: oscarfrye</title>
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		<dc:creator>oscarfrye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i cant stand how they penalize the monthly riders...for someone who rides only to/from work everyday (2 trips per weekday) its is hardly a discount anymore

ass backwards thinking</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i cant stand how they penalize the monthly riders&#8230;for someone who rides only to/from work everyday (2 trips per weekday) its is hardly a discount anymore</p>
<p>ass backwards thinking</p>
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		<title>By: srock</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65243</link>
		<dc:creator>srock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 21:05:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I got rid of my metro card years ago, so the only thing left to do try to see that my state reps are defeated in the next election cycle.  Legislative votes or non-votes like this will keep occurring unless officials know that there are consequences for their actions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I got rid of my metro card years ago, so the only thing left to do try to see that my state reps are defeated in the next election cycle.  Legislative votes or non-votes like this will keep occurring unless officials know that there are consequences for their actions.</p>
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		<title>By: J:Lai</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65238</link>
		<dc:creator>J:Lai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:18:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is about the worst thing that could happen to the city, economically and culturally as well.  
For people who commute to work each day, and have inelastic demand for transit, it will increase the cost of commuting (basically add a new tax at a time of economic recession), and increase the commute time (increase un-productive time which is neither producing economic output nor consuming liesure.)
For discretionary travel, it will make people choose to travel to and around the city less, because of both time and money.  Switching to automobile modes is bad because there is much lower capacity to move people through the city with cars than with transit, besides all the other negative externalities.

This sucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is about the worst thing that could happen to the city, economically and culturally as well.<br />
For people who commute to work each day, and have inelastic demand for transit, it will increase the cost of commuting (basically add a new tax at a time of economic recession), and increase the commute time (increase un-productive time which is neither producing economic output nor consuming liesure.)<br />
For discretionary travel, it will make people choose to travel to and around the city less, because of both time and money.  Switching to automobile modes is bad because there is much lower capacity to move people through the city with cars than with transit, besides all the other negative externalities.</p>
<p>This sucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65237</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 20:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;No change whatsoever. For most of us, $100 or so per month is still a bargain compared to the hassles and/or expenses of all the other options.&quot;

Right, but I&#039;m glad I&#039;m biking anyway, given the collapse of the system is the next shoe to drop.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;No change whatsoever. For most of us, $100 or so per month is still a bargain compared to the hassles and/or expenses of all the other options.&#8221;</p>
<p>Right, but I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m biking anyway, given the collapse of the system is the next shoe to drop.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A five-dollar round trip represents the first hour of take-home pay for someone earning minimum wage.

To save money, a person could get a monthly card, but for the poorest of the poor, or anyone living paycheck to paycheck, spending $103 might not be possible.  Even if it&#039;s more expensive in the long-run, it might be easier in the short term to buy rides on a pay-as-you-go basis.  So once again the poor float the system while wealthier car riders cross bridges for free.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A five-dollar round trip represents the first hour of take-home pay for someone earning minimum wage.</p>
<p>To save money, a person could get a monthly card, but for the poorest of the poor, or anyone living paycheck to paycheck, spending $103 might not be possible.  Even if it&#8217;s more expensive in the long-run, it might be easier in the short term to buy rides on a pay-as-you-go basis.  So once again the poor float the system while wealthier car riders cross bridges for free.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:34:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ll pay the $22 more a month.  I&#039;m fortunate that it won&#039;t be a major hardship for me, and I can&#039;t telecommute frequently enough that switching over to a pay-per-ride card is a sensible option.  

Like Susan points out, it&#039;s the poorest New Yorkers who will be the hardest hit, and it&#039;s infuriating that our legislators are either foolhardily believe or are pretending that those are the people they&#039;re sticking up for here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll pay the $22 more a month.  I&#8217;m fortunate that it won&#8217;t be a major hardship for me, and I can&#8217;t telecommute frequently enough that switching over to a pay-per-ride card is a sensible option.  </p>
<p>Like Susan points out, it&#8217;s the poorest New Yorkers who will be the hardest hit, and it&#8217;s infuriating that our legislators are either foolhardily believe or are pretending that those are the people they&#8217;re sticking up for here.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65233</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For the poorest of the working poor, scraping by and spending just $15k annually, this fare increase represents a whopping 1.7% increase in annual expense. For somebody like me, closer to the city median income of $28610, it&#039;s less than a 1% increase. Transportation is still less than 5% of annual expense for our median citizen, way less than the nationwide average.

No change for now, get back to me when a metrocard costs $250/month.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For the poorest of the working poor, scraping by and spending just $15k annually, this fare increase represents a whopping 1.7% increase in annual expense. For somebody like me, closer to the city median income of $28610, it&#8217;s less than a 1% increase. Transportation is still less than 5% of annual expense for our median citizen, way less than the nationwide average.</p>
<p>No change for now, get back to me when a metrocard costs $250/month.</p>
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		<title>By: David_K</title>
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		<dc:creator>David_K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 19:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I bike everywhere so I&#039;d like to think that this won&#039;t touch me.  But I believe that Mark is correct (the cuts will &quot;savage the city&#039;s economy, affecting all of us in ways we haven&#039;t yet imagined&quot;).  And I&#039;m sure Susan is right that this will hit the poorest people hard.  Five bucks is a lot of dough for a round-trip fare.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I bike everywhere so I&#8217;d like to think that this won&#8217;t touch me.  But I believe that Mark is correct (the cuts will &#8220;savage the city&#8217;s economy, affecting all of us in ways we haven&#8217;t yet imagined&#8221;).  And I&#8217;m sure Susan is right that this will hit the poorest people hard.  Five bucks is a lot of dough for a round-trip fare.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhywun</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65230</link>
		<dc:creator>Rhywun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:59:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No change whatsoever. For most of us, $100 or so per month is still a bargain compared to the hassles and/or expenses of all the other options.</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65226</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a work-at-home employee, I make an average of two round trips by transit per week, one for a work commitment or doctor&#039;s appointment, and the other discretionary weekend travel, usually to the outer boroughs for a Saturday lunch. And I use a full-fare card. I&#039;ll be paying $2 more a week or about a hundred bucks a year. This will hardly affect me at all.

The service cuts, not the fare hikes, are what will get me. My weekend jaunts -- which I quite enjoy, and which allow me to enjoy the rest of the city outside my neighborhood -- will be less pleasant with packed trains and longer waits. Perhaps I will leave the nabe less often. The service cuts will also encourage more driving, which means more pollution and noise for Manhattan residents like me. And they will savage the city&#039;s economy, affecting all of us in ways we haven&#039;t yet imagined.

Anti-urbanists who have been predicting New York City&#039;s demise forever -- because they consider it an unfit place to live, and its people somehow immoral -- will be laughing at us as our city disintegrates. That may be the part that hurts most of all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a work-at-home employee, I make an average of two round trips by transit per week, one for a work commitment or doctor&#8217;s appointment, and the other discretionary weekend travel, usually to the outer boroughs for a Saturday lunch. And I use a full-fare card. I&#8217;ll be paying $2 more a week or about a hundred bucks a year. This will hardly affect me at all.</p>
<p>The service cuts, not the fare hikes, are what will get me. My weekend jaunts &#8212; which I quite enjoy, and which allow me to enjoy the rest of the city outside my neighborhood &#8212; will be less pleasant with packed trains and longer waits. Perhaps I will leave the nabe less often. The service cuts will also encourage more driving, which means more pollution and noise for Manhattan residents like me. And they will savage the city&#8217;s economy, affecting all of us in ways we haven&#8217;t yet imagined.</p>
<p>Anti-urbanists who have been predicting New York City&#8217;s demise forever &#8212; because they consider it an unfit place to live, and its people somehow immoral &#8212; will be laughing at us as our city disintegrates. That may be the part that hurts most of all.</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Donovan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/24/doomsday-open-thread-whats-your-plan/comment-page-1/#comment-65225</link>
		<dc:creator>Susan Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yup. I will bike more and like Glen I&#039;ll shop in the neighborhood here in the Bronx more. Thing is-- this is going to hit some of the poorest people in the city HARD. It&#039;s so unfair-- why can&#039;t they pass the tolls?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yup. I will bike more and like Glen I&#8217;ll shop in the neighborhood here in the Bronx more. Thing is&#8211; this is going to hit some of the poorest people in the city HARD. It&#8217;s so unfair&#8211; why can&#8217;t they pass the tolls?</p>
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