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	<title>Comments on: Livable Streets Community News: Accessible Grocery Stores &amp; More</title>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/03/13/livable-streets-community-news-accessible-grocery-stores-more/comment-page-1/#comment-64658</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome news!  The city of Davis, CA seems to go to great strides to even make sure their strip malls have good accessibility and tons of bike parking.  I have pictures of bike parking if anyone needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome news!  The city of Davis, CA seems to go to great strides to even make sure their strip malls have good accessibility and tons of bike parking.  I have pictures of bike parking if anyone needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Maura McCormick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maura McCormick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Mar 2009 18:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you for the mention Lily! I just started that group and already I&#039;m a celebrity!

I just made one correction to that blog post; it&#039;s really a drainage field, not a ditch. There are at least three big ones around the parking lot there.

Cynthia, you are so right to be working to establish the liability and culpability of businesses (and municipalities too Aaron). I suspect that a major factor in this victory was the danger of people getting hit while walking in the east auto entrance to the store, where they often do and motorists can&#039;t see them well. I was sure to make that point in my initial message to Kroger.

Another thing that could shake businesses from their complacency regarding car-free access is the threat of being charged with a violation of the Americans with Disability Act. If anyone knows of a precedent for this, I&#039;d love to know about it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you for the mention Lily! I just started that group and already I&#8217;m a celebrity!</p>
<p>I just made one correction to that blog post; it&#8217;s really a drainage field, not a ditch. There are at least three big ones around the parking lot there.</p>
<p>Cynthia, you are so right to be working to establish the liability and culpability of businesses (and municipalities too Aaron). I suspect that a major factor in this victory was the danger of people getting hit while walking in the east auto entrance to the store, where they often do and motorists can&#8217;t see them well. I was sure to make that point in my initial message to Kroger.</p>
<p>Another thing that could shake businesses from their complacency regarding car-free access is the threat of being charged with a violation of the Americans with Disability Act. If anyone knows of a precedent for this, I&#8217;d love to know about it.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Naparstek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Aaron Naparstek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 21:27:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cynthia,

That&#039;s interesting. Keep us posted on how your case goes, would you? Is this unprecedented or has anyone ever won a law suit like this before?

Also, are you going to argue that the municipality is also responsible for the design of the streets? 

Can&#039;t the businesses just respond to you by saying: Well, zoning allows us -- even encourages us -- to design our properties like this. Sue City Planning if you don&#039;t like it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cynthia,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s interesting. Keep us posted on how your case goes, would you? Is this unprecedented or has anyone ever won a law suit like this before?</p>
<p>Also, are you going to argue that the municipality is also responsible for the design of the streets? </p>
<p>Can&#8217;t the businesses just respond to you by saying: Well, zoning allows us &#8212; even encourages us &#8212; to design our properties like this. Sue City Planning if you don&#8217;t like it.</p>
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		<title>By: Cynthia Nikitin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cynthia Nikitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Mar 2009 20:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are expert witnesses on a case where a woman was walking through a parking lot on her way to work, from the bus, and was hit by a snowplow and seriously injured. We are working with her lawyer to demonstrate via observations, research, and on site data collection that the design of the parking lot, the lack of a safe and more direct route from the bus stop to the stores, the absence of sidewalks, lights, speed bumps, parking lot lane markings etc. contributed directly to her accident. Bottom line, in these kinds of environments, we want to establish the liability of the business owners for the safety of patrons and their culpability should their neglect of these spaces lead to accidents.  The case goes to trial in Philadelphia in May.  If they leave their parking lots a mess and don’t provide for safe routes for people they can be sued. That’s the stick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are expert witnesses on a case where a woman was walking through a parking lot on her way to work, from the bus, and was hit by a snowplow and seriously injured. We are working with her lawyer to demonstrate via observations, research, and on site data collection that the design of the parking lot, the lack of a safe and more direct route from the bus stop to the stores, the absence of sidewalks, lights, speed bumps, parking lot lane markings etc. contributed directly to her accident. Bottom line, in these kinds of environments, we want to establish the liability of the business owners for the safety of patrons and their culpability should their neglect of these spaces lead to accidents.  The case goes to trial in Philadelphia in May.  If they leave their parking lots a mess and don’t provide for safe routes for people they can be sued. That’s the stick.</p>
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