At Coney Island Avenue, Parkside Avenue and PPSW, there needs to be a clear line BEFORE the pedestrian cross walks indicating where cars should stop.

Police need to enforce the laws. There is a police station on Park Circle but I have never once seen any driving violations issued. Just for the record, yesterday I was crossing from the park at Park Side Avenue when 8 cars ran the red light, making it very dangerous to cross the street.

The pedestrian light at PPSW is too short and needs to be extended so we can get across the street.

The bank entrance is a nightmare. As it is now, cars coming from the circle up PPSW cross a double line to get into the bank. Those same cars block both traffic and the pedestrian cross walk. Fix: change the direction of the driveway so that cars enter on the circle AND put a gate at the entrance so cars are sure to stop for pedestrians. The gate will be essential because this sidewalk is heavily used by pedestrians and there are a lot of old people in the building beside the bank who can't jump quickly out of the way of the cars. Finally, put trees on the sidewalk so cars don't drive from the street onto the sidewalk to get to the bank (which they do now!).

And lastly, the city needs to de-ice the sidewalk in front of the police station on the circle as well as on all the pedestrian cross ways (Sherman St. Prospect Ave., etc.) and Caton Avenue over Ocean Parkway so that pedestrians can actually use the sidewalks instead of walking in the streets with insane drivers.

"Horse lane of a different color" -- I like that.

To echo "Brooklyn," I meant to includes peds and bikes among those things to which cars should yield in my earlier post, though peds and bikes would be wise to yield to horses, too, since those 1,000-lb. animals sometimes don't do what they're told.

And Mark, glad to introduce you to woonerfs.

I imagine huge yellow highway signs at every entrance, with blinking lights, warning "CIRCLE AHEAD - 15MPH - RADAR ENFORCED - YIELD RIGHT." The circle is paved with cobblestones and contains slightly raised cycle/horse tracks that double as speed humps. The cycle tracks either cut the diameter to an "inner circle" car-free sanctuary (this is how riders lead their horses across) or follows the circumference of the circle, allowing access to the Park, Parade Grounds, or streets.

The tracks form a slow-speed barrier from any direction that cars arrive, and have signs stating "YIELD TO PEDS/HORSES/BIKES."

The circle is not the problem, it's that it's a circle that's at least four lanes in diameter (and probably more - since when is that good traffic engineering?), which basically nullifies any potential traffic calming effect. Something along the lines of Sean's proposal may be what's necessary to make this thing at all pedestrian-friendly.

Cobble stones! or at least bricks... this will make all the cars go slow. It's amazing how well things will work when the cars are forced to slow down. Plus they last at least 100 years.

http://flickr.com/photos/seankenney/3294917624/sizes/l/in/photostream/

Barring cars permanently from the Park would eliminate one variable, too.

Converting the Prospect Expressway to a two-lane busway and a greenway would help a lot as well.

here is Stable Brooklyn's plan:

http://www.stablebrooklyn.com/images/stories/stable%20brooklyn%20report-final1.pdf

Barring cars permanently from the Park would eliminate one variable, too.

That mess in the lower-left corner looks like it could complicate things, though.

There are circles at 3 of the 4 corners of central park, a major bike lane leads to the westside ones, but leaves you to fend for yourself, and risk your life to move through them.

Highest priority for me is a clear, safe bike connection to the Ocean Parkway bike path. Right now there's nothing at all, and all the possible connections are highway-style ramps in desperate need of traffic calming.

We also need to reclaim the enormous amount of wasted pavement in the circle.

Unfortunately, the interchange with the Prospect Expressway just to the west -- is a major part of the accessibility problem -- probably can't be fixed without major reconstruction. It's a heinous, sprawling example of Robert Moses-era car-centric urban planning.

I'm disappointed that I can't make tonight's meeting, because I'm curious to hear what ideas the community has for this area. Can I expect a follow-up post from Streetsblog?