Comments on: Streetfilms: Introducing the Pedestrian Peek-a-Boo http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Sat, 21 Nov 2009 19:48:12 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Andy B from Jersey http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61580 Andy B from Jersey Tue, 13 Jan 2009 02:38:26 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61580 Well Tod, if you are correct, it sure sounds like this is one of the ideas from the MUTCD that NYC should follow. I believe these guidelines are in the MUTCD to address exactly this problem. BTW, the parking rules I posted above in message #6 are law in NJ. Well Tod, if you are correct, it sure sounds like this is one of the ideas from the MUTCD that NYC should follow. I believe these guidelines are in the MUTCD to address exactly this problem.

BTW, the parking rules I posted above in message #6 are law in NJ.

]]> By: Rhywun http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61573 Rhywun Mon, 12 Jan 2009 23:36:14 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61573 When I lived in (West!) Germany, there was often a convex mirror installed at a blind corner so drivers wouldn't smash into each other. I imagine pedestrians would find them useful, too. I don't imagine that such a mirror would last more than ten minutes on a street corner in NYC, however. When I lived in (West!) Germany, there was often a convex mirror installed at a blind corner so drivers wouldn't smash into each other. I imagine pedestrians would find them useful, too. I don't imagine that such a mirror would last more than ten minutes on a street corner in NYC, however.

]]> By: Tod http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61567 Tod Mon, 12 Jan 2009 22:31:09 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61567 Andy B - no, those are not the rules in NYC. You can park right up to the crosswalk. May be you are thinking of MUTCD or other (suggested) guidelines. Andy B - no, those are not the rules in NYC. You can park right up to the crosswalk. May be you are thinking of MUTCD or other (suggested) guidelines.

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61559 Angus Grieve-Smith Mon, 12 Jan 2009 21:11:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61559 First of all, thanks to Robin, Clarence and the gang for another great Streetfilm! We're going to present our petition to a Community Board committee tomorrow night, so it couldn't come at a better time. Interestingly, we're focusing on removing parking from around the corner - on Skillman Avenue, in the video you can see where we put our sod on Park(ing) Day. Our idea is that that would allow drivers to see oncoming cars better and thus have time to pay attention to pedestrians. But removing a space or two near the stop line would definitely help as well. First of all, thanks to Robin, Clarence and the gang for another great Streetfilm! We're going to present our petition to a Community Board committee tomorrow night, so it couldn't come at a better time.

Interestingly, we're focusing on removing parking from around the corner - on Skillman Avenue, in the video you can see where we put our sod on Park(ing) Day. Our idea is that that would allow drivers to see oncoming cars better and thus have time to pay attention to pedestrians. But removing a space or two near the stop line would definitely help as well.

]]> By: wheel http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61556 wheel Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:01:02 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61556 Still might be stale but I like it. The unscrambled amble verb: make intelligible noun: a leisurely walk (usually in some public place) Still might be stale but I like it.
The unscrambled amble
verb: make intelligible
noun: a leisurely walk (usually in some public place)

]]> By: Andy B from Jersey http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61553 Andy B from Jersey Mon, 12 Jan 2009 19:31:39 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61553 Yeah, I'm all for the building of landscaped islands to help in this purpose since they also act as traffic calming but isn't already illegal to park within 25ft of a crosswalk or 50ft from a stop sign?!?! Sounds like more parking enforcement could help with this problem (but we know that's a current issue in its own right in NYC). Also if your gonna' put bike parking in these corner areas, don't use "wave" bicycle racks. They don't meet the APBP minimal requirements for adequately secure bicycle parking. Yeah, I'm all for the building of landscaped islands to help in this purpose since they also act as traffic calming but isn't already illegal to park within 25ft of a crosswalk or 50ft from a stop sign?!?! Sounds like more parking enforcement could help with this problem (but we know that's a current issue in its own right in NYC).

Also if your gonna' put bike parking in these corner areas, don't use "wave" bicycle racks. They don't meet the APBP minimal requirements for adequately secure bicycle parking.

]]> By: Gargamel Tralfaz http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61543 Gargamel Tralfaz Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:15:39 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61543 Don't you just love this idea? Even if we could do this at 20% of all NYC intersections, it would be an increase in green space, ped safety, and make the city overall less chaotic. Maybe even children would have a shot at getting to school without being in fear of their lives while creeping into an intersection. Don't you just love this idea? Even if we could do this at 20% of all NYC intersections, it would be an increase in green space, ped safety, and make the city overall less chaotic.

Maybe even children would have a shot at getting to school without being in fear of their lives while creeping into an intersection.

]]> By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61541 ddartley Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:13:29 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61541 I meant "non-engineer/planner." I meant "non-engineer/planner."

]]> By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61540 ddartley Mon, 12 Jan 2009 18:08:59 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61540 This is one of the best ideas that this non-engineer/planneer professional has ever seen discussed here/on Streetfilms. Of course while waiting to cross non-daylighted intersections where drivers often speed, I will continue my own traffic calming practice of deliberately visibly encroaching on the car lane, or "jaywaiting." If bikes appear, I step out of their path, but not that of cars. This is one of the best ideas that this non-engineer/planneer professional has ever seen discussed here/on Streetfilms.

Of course while waiting to cross non-daylighted intersections where drivers often speed, I will continue my own traffic calming practice of deliberately visibly encroaching on the car lane, or "jaywaiting." If bikes appear, I step out of their path, but not that of cars.

]]> By: Rhywun http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61539 Rhywun Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:54:51 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61539 And unlike speed limits, this actually works. There's a no through-traffic, deliveries-only street near my work (Broadway and Cedar) where cars routinely drag-race at 50mph or more to beat the light at Broadway. And this corner is *completely* blind (my building fills the block and there is a food truck parked at the corner every day). Nevertheless I see people blithely cross Cedar against the light--without looking--every day. And unlike speed limits, this actually works.

There's a no through-traffic, deliveries-only street near my work (Broadway and Cedar) where cars routinely drag-race at 50mph or more to beat the light at Broadway. And this corner is *completely* blind (my building fills the block and there is a food truck parked at the corner every day). Nevertheless I see people blithely cross Cedar against the light--without looking--every day.

]]> By: apu http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/12/streetfilms-introducing-the-pedestrian-peek-a-boo/comment-page-1/#comment-61534 apu Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:30:30 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5249#comment-61534 one other thing "daylighting" helps with is stormwater mgmt. The example you showed from pdx is actually intended as that with the added benefit of providing better pedestrian visibility. Why not call this ped surprise!!!! one other thing "daylighting" helps with is stormwater mgmt. The example you showed from pdx is actually intended as that with the added benefit of providing better pedestrian visibility.

Why not call this ped surprise!!!!

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