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	<title>Comments on: Bloomberg to Obama: Stimulus Aid Should Go Directly to Cities</title>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/09/bloomberg-to-obama-stimulus-aid-should-go-directly-to-cities/comment-page-1/#comment-61694</link>
		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 09:47:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that if Mayor Bloomberg is talking about &quot;cities&quot; meaning him I really do not think it should . Instead the president elect should give the city the money with a condition that a majority of it go toward people struggling and not just in the hands of our esteemed city council to play political game with the money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that if Mayor Bloomberg is talking about "cities" meaning him I really do not think it should . Instead the president elect should give the city the money with a condition that a majority of it go toward people struggling and not just in the hands of our esteemed city council to play political game with the money.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 15:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s far fetched that the congress will agree on sensible criteria for distributing transportation stimulus money within the next month. Therefore, how about a simple formula based on population, with the 250 (500?) largest cities --- as defined by the census --- getting money directly via an expanded Urban Partnership block grant process. In most places, the MPOs are little more than forums for a fight between center city and suburban interests and are powerless. 

Judging from the 19 state wish lists submitted so far, cities are doing quite poorly. The very conservative State DOTs compiling the lists are trying to revisit the 1950&#039;s. Generally it appears that transit agencies are seen as a surrogate for urban streets initiatives. As a result, bike/ped is being left out. Here in NY, the state&#039;s wish list provides nearly nothing for NYC streets, or basic street and bridge maintenance. There are zero city agency projects. Lastly, the feds should be willing to spend a pile on transit operating assistance. Nationally that will translate directly and rapidly into more bus service and lower fares.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's far fetched that the congress will agree on sensible criteria for distributing transportation stimulus money within the next month. Therefore, how about a simple formula based on population, with the 250 (500?) largest cities --- as defined by the census --- getting money directly via an expanded Urban Partnership block grant process. In most places, the MPOs are little more than forums for a fight between center city and suburban interests and are powerless. </p>
<p>Judging from the 19 state wish lists submitted so far, cities are doing quite poorly. The very conservative State DOTs compiling the lists are trying to revisit the 1950's. Generally it appears that transit agencies are seen as a surrogate for urban streets initiatives. As a result, bike/ped is being left out. Here in NY, the state's wish list provides nearly nothing for NYC streets, or basic street and bridge maintenance. There are zero city agency projects. Lastly, the feds should be willing to spend a pile on transit operating assistance. Nationally that will translate directly and rapidly into more bus service and lower fares.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great low-cost mobility will be a boon to both cities and non-urban areas as well.  Places of wonderful natural beauty, many of the depressed areas of New York State would benefit terrifically from easy inexpensive travel which would be a boon to local state-wide tourism already growing as a result of the current difficult economic times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great low-cost mobility will be a boon to both cities and non-urban areas as well.  Places of wonderful natural beauty, many of the depressed areas of New York State would benefit terrifically from easy inexpensive travel which would be a boon to local state-wide tourism already growing as a result of the current difficult economic times.</p>
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		<title>By: Lee Watkins</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lee Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2009 02:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>montana for example would spend their stimulus paving the logging roads so that all those mountain forests that will become subdivisions for log-cabin mega-mansions.   

So this is the reality that such alternatives as these are being framed in contrast to.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>montana for example would spend their stimulus paving the logging roads so that all those mountain forests that will become subdivisions for log-cabin mega-mansions.   </p>
<p>So this is the reality that such alternatives as these are being framed in contrast to.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 05:38:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Are suburbs that sit next to each other, yet have vastly different population densities and land-use rules part of the same city because they are contiguous?&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It&#039;s a good question.  Shouldn&#039;t we consider Port Chester part of the same system as Greenwich, since it houses the nannies, maids and dishwashers for Greenwich, and schools their children?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Are suburbs that sit next to each other, yet have vastly different population densities and land-use rules part of the same city because they are contiguous?</p></blockquote>
<p>It's a good question.  Shouldn't we consider Port Chester part of the same system as Greenwich, since it houses the nannies, maids and dishwashers for Greenwich, and schools their children?</p>
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		<title>By: Niccolo Machiavelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niccolo Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 01:51:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How would this work?  Feeding the MPOs?  What makes a city?  Is a Metropolitan area a city?  Are suburbs that sit next to each other, yet have vastly different population densities and land-use rules part of the same city because they are contiguous?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How would this work?  Feeding the MPOs?  What makes a city?  Is a Metropolitan area a city?  Are suburbs that sit next to each other, yet have vastly different population densities and land-use rules part of the same city because they are contiguous?</p>
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		<title>By: Fritz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fritz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jan 2009 00:23:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not 100% convinced that there has to be a divide city/state.  I think it&#039;s clear there needs to be oversight.  I think what we need is a lot more suburban rail almost more than we need new infrastructure in cities.  So, the goals should be prop up MTA and other transit agencies in trouble.  Repair already built roads and bridges and sidewalks and public transit projects that are crumbling.  Then, invest in both new downtown public transit but also Suburban rail that goes right into the center of communities helping further transit oriented development.  States do have a role to play in bringing cities and surrounding counties together, they just need limits placed on what they can do with the funds given them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not 100% convinced that there has to be a divide city/state.  I think it's clear there needs to be oversight.  I think what we need is a lot more suburban rail almost more than we need new infrastructure in cities.  So, the goals should be prop up MTA and other transit agencies in trouble.  Repair already built roads and bridges and sidewalks and public transit projects that are crumbling.  Then, invest in both new downtown public transit but also Suburban rail that goes right into the center of communities helping further transit oriented development.  States do have a role to play in bringing cities and surrounding counties together, they just need limits placed on what they can do with the funds given them.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jan 2009 20:29:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we need to send this money to cities, where sustainable transit projects require serious investment.

However, what does this mean for a state like NJ, with vast, dense communities with serious transit projects that need funding (ARC, Portal Bridge)?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we need to send this money to cities, where sustainable transit projects require serious investment.</p>
<p>However, what does this mean for a state like NJ, with vast, dense communities with serious transit projects that need funding (ARC, Portal Bridge)?</p>
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