Comments on: No Justice for Killing of Ibrihim Ahmed http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 22 Mar 2010 02:44:44 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61476 ddartley Fri, 09 Jan 2009 21:49:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61476 I just read the following in City Council Calendar I receive by e-mail: "Res 145 - By Council Members Vallone Jr., Fidler, Gennaro, Gentile, Koppell, Nelson, Recchia Jr., Weprin, Felder, Foster and Oddo - Resolution calling upon the New York State Legislature to address the legal loopholes that allow dangerous and deadly drivers to drive under the influence of drugs or to drive with a suspended or revoked license." Could this be in response to the killing of Ibrihim Ahmed? Maybe partially creditable to T.A.'s work done after he was killed? Maybe, but also maybe not, because there are a few other resolutions, sponsored by some of the same members, on the calendar that concern killing or injuring children in non-car ways. Anyway, I like the resolution. I just read the following in City Council Calendar I receive by e-mail:

"Res 145 - By Council
Members Vallone Jr., Fidler, Gennaro, Gentile, Koppell, Nelson, Recchia Jr., Weprin, Felder, Foster and Oddo - Resolution calling upon the New York State Legislature to address the legal loopholes that allow dangerous and deadly drivers to drive under the influence of drugs or to drive with a suspended or revoked license."

Could this be in response to the killing of Ibrihim Ahmed? Maybe partially creditable to T.A.'s work done after he was killed?

Maybe, but also maybe not, because there are a few other resolutions, sponsored by some of the same members, on the calendar that concern killing or injuring children in non-car ways. Anyway, I like the resolution.

]]> By: John http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61453 John Fri, 09 Jan 2009 14:39:04 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61453 What we have here in our society is the twisted values that a machine are more important than a human being. A car, gun, house, MP3 player, sneakers or whatever is considered more important than a person. If a car hits and runs over a pedestrian, that's okay. If a gun shot a kid, that's okay. If someone got killed over a nice looking sneakers, that's okay. According to this culture. What we have here in our society is the twisted values that a machine are more important than a human being. A car, gun, house, MP3 player, sneakers or whatever is considered more important than a person. If a car hits and runs over a pedestrian, that's okay. If a gun shot a kid, that's okay. If someone got killed over a nice looking sneakers, that's okay. According to this culture.

]]> By: JF http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61450 JF Fri, 09 Jan 2009 04:48:08 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61450 Somewhere between <a href="http://www.queensda.org/dabiography.html" rel="nofollow">Richard Brown</a> and <a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/01082009/news/regionalnews/gotti_hit_of_acid_149218.htm" rel="nofollow">Charles Carneglia</a> is the appropriate response. Somewhere between Richard Brown and Charles Carneglia is the appropriate response.

]]> By: Mark Walker http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61448 Mark Walker Fri, 09 Jan 2009 03:18:45 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61448 There are two problems here: Dangerous drivers get away without prosecution, and they keep their licenses. I think that the second part should be the easiest to remedy. Any driver who kills, under any circumstances, even if most people would really call it an "accident," should lose his license. No exceptions. There are two problems here: Dangerous drivers get away without prosecution, and they keep their licenses.

I think that the second part should be the easiest to remedy. Any driver who kills, under any circumstances, even if most people would really call it an "accident," should lose his license. No exceptions.

]]> By: Boris http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61446 Boris Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:56:45 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61446 What I don't understand is why nobody ever files (and wins) a civil lawsuit in these cases. You can get $100,000s for being kicked off a flight because your t-shirt had Arabic text on it, but you can't sue a campaign for killing a child? I think it would be easy to prove that Ibrihim's mother will suffer a loss of income as well as emotional suffering quantifiable as several million dollars. What I don't understand is why nobody ever files (and wins) a civil lawsuit in these cases. You can get $100,000s for being kicked off a flight because your t-shirt had Arabic text on it, but you can't sue a campaign for killing a child?

I think it would be easy to prove that Ibrihim's mother will suffer a loss of income as well as emotional suffering quantifiable as several million dollars.

]]> By: Niccolo Machiavelli http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61433 Niccolo Machiavelli Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:23:10 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61433 The candidate runs business specializing in the repair and overhaul of heavy vehicles. He has many employees who maintain Commercial Driver Licenses. As far as knowledge of the dangers he cannot claim ignorance. And, to make it even worse (or better) he is a Republican, the party of individual responsibility, privatization and deregulation. We need an "Ibrahim's" Law, like Megan's Law, memorializing this young victim of automobile murder. The candidate runs business specializing in the repair and overhaul of heavy vehicles. He has many employees who maintain Commercial Driver Licenses. As far as knowledge of the dangers he cannot claim ignorance. And, to make it even worse (or better) he is a Republican, the party of individual responsibility, privatization and deregulation.

We need an "Ibrahim's" Law, like Megan's Law, memorializing this young victim of automobile murder.

]]> By: Joe http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61430 Joe Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:37:52 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61430 Another outrage from today -- a drunk driver who killed a pedestrian last year going 60 mph in a 30 mph zone was sentenced to 16 DAYS in jail pursuant in a plea bargain with the DA's office. The justification for this was that the pedestrian was also drunk and jaywalking. Unbelievable. http://gothamist.com/2009/01/08/prosecutor_drunk_driver_hit_drunk_p.php Another outrage from today -- a drunk driver who killed a pedestrian last year going 60 mph in a 30 mph zone was sentenced to 16 DAYS in jail pursuant in a plea bargain with the DA's office. The justification for this was that the pedestrian was also drunk and jaywalking. Unbelievable.

http://gothamist.com/2009/01/08/prosecutor_drunk_driver_hit_drunk_p.php

]]> By: bip bop http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61426 bip bop Thu, 08 Jan 2009 21:17:04 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61426 more like "fukken" 187 of kid with car... how about getting Michael Ricatto on the record with his stance of proper penalties for this type of horrific nonsense? more like "fukken" 187 of kid with car...

how about getting Michael Ricatto on the record with his stance of proper penalties for this type of horrific nonsense?

]]> By: Ben http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61425 Ben Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:05:34 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61425 This is an example of how democracy has failed to protect our heroes of this car driving society. The gross neglect is appalling, which equals such tragic things such as slavery, segregation, and the war on drugs. Anyone who denies this or directly allows this condition to continue is unpatriotic and should be removed from any political position or public service. This is an example of how democracy has failed to protect our heroes of this car driving society.
The gross neglect is appalling, which equals such tragic things such as slavery, segregation, and the war on drugs.
Anyone who denies this or directly allows this condition to continue is unpatriotic and should be removed from any political position or public service.

]]> By: Rhywun http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61424 Rhywun Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:03:25 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61424 This is really just outrageous, and of course it happens all the time but not when a political candidate is involved. Hopefully the issue will finally receive some attention. This is really just outrageous, and of course it happens all the time but not when a political candidate is involved. Hopefully the issue will finally receive some attention.

]]> By: Lee http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61423 Lee Thu, 08 Jan 2009 20:03:09 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61423 Keep digging, you find more dirt. Read the rip off reports for Kars 4 Kids. - Lee http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/296/RipOff0296826.htm http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/372/RipOff0372488.htm http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/kars-4-kids-c75363.html http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/261/RipOff0261694.htm http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/263/RipOff0263345.htm http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/131/ripoff0131389.htm etc, etc, etc. Keep digging, you find more dirt.

Read the rip off reports for Kars 4 Kids. - Lee

http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/296/RipOff0296826.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/372/RipOff0372488.htm
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/kars-4-kids-c75363.html
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/261/RipOff0261694.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/263/RipOff0263345.htm
http://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/0/131/ripoff0131389.htm

etc, etc, etc.

]]> By: Bjorn http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/01/08/no-justice-for-killing-of-ibrihim-ahmed/comment-page-1/#comment-61418 Bjorn Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:42:59 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=5225#comment-61418 The BTA in Portland Oregon is pushing along with other groups for a Vehicular Homicide law that would create a separate offense for a driver who while driving without a license and/or insurance kills someone. http://bikeportland.org/2008/06/06/bta-will-pursue-vehicular-homicide-law-in-2009/ The BTA in Portland Oregon is pushing along with other groups for a Vehicular Homicide law that would create a separate offense for a driver who while driving without a license and/or insurance kills someone.

http://bikeportland.org/2008/06/06/bta-will-pursue-vehicular-homicide-law-in-2009/

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