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	<title>Comments on: Council Members Surprised to Hear CBs Approved Bike Lanes</title>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 13:50:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYC DOT Commissioner Janette Sadik-Khan is an amazingly effective advocate for sensible transportation.

We need dozen&#039;s more like her along with large scale engagement of the public.

Where communications is civilization&#039;s nervous system and seems to be rapidly reinventing itself to meet the demand, transportation is its circulatory system and failing miserably.  

We need the electronics engineering-equivalent forward thinking scientists, mechanical, and civil engineers to create suitable transportation that will serve the 8 to 10 billion people predicted to populate this planet by mid-century. Current proposals are not even close.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYC DOT Commissioner Janette Sadik-Khan is an amazingly effective advocate for sensible transportation.</p>
<p>We need dozen&#8217;s more like her along with large scale engagement of the public.</p>
<p>Where communications is civilization&#8217;s nervous system and seems to be rapidly reinventing itself to meet the demand, transportation is its circulatory system and failing miserably.  </p>
<p>We need the electronics engineering-equivalent forward thinking scientists, mechanical, and civil engineers to create suitable transportation that will serve the 8 to 10 billion people predicted to populate this planet by mid-century. Current proposals are not even close.</p>
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		<title>By: Heffron</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heffron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 00:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>re:The Vernon Blvd bike lane.  The DoT presented their plan for Vernon in Queens to CB1&#039;s Transpo committee and CB2&#039;s Land Use committee (they don&#039;t have a Transpo) and at the general CB2 meeting.  The TA Queens Committee showed up in force in both instances.  CB1&#039;s Transpo committee said they couldn&#039;t see a problem with it and CB1 didn&#039;t request a presentation to the whole board.  CB2&#039;s Land Use voted unanimously in favor of the Vernon bike lane.  However after DoT presented to CB2&#039;s general meeting the Chair Joe Conley tabled the discussion without a vote and requested that the DoT come up with a new plan for them.  And AFTER work had begun on Vernon CB1 wrote a letter opposing the bike lane, but this too never came to a vote before the general committee or even in a cabinet meeting.  I couldn&#039;t tell you who decided to do that.

Additionally CB2 passed a resolution, proposed by member Al Volpe, to oppose the popular Skillman bike lanes, once again AFTER they had been installed.  This came about by sneaking the resolution into a meeting after the public portion had passed and without placing the resolution onto the agenda.  I know it wasn&#039;t on the agenda b/c I personally called CB2&#039;s office that day to ask if they would be discussing the bike lanes and 3 members of the Queens Committee attended to speak anyways.  They brought me a copy of the agenda, and no anti-bike resolution there either.  All of this is perfectly legit in the murky world of community boards.

At least in my neck of the woods, the CBs don&#039;t reach out to elements of the community they aren&#039;t familiar with.  They  don&#039;t take the time to educate themselves on new policies or strategies in the city (whether or not they support them) and in many cases don&#039;t even pay attention at their own meetings.  CB2 doesn&#039;t even have a Transportation Committee but Gershon wants to give them more power over transportation issues.  How is that responsible?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>re:The Vernon Blvd bike lane.  The DoT presented their plan for Vernon in Queens to CB1&#8242;s Transpo committee and CB2&#8242;s Land Use committee (they don&#8217;t have a Transpo) and at the general CB2 meeting.  The TA Queens Committee showed up in force in both instances.  CB1&#8242;s Transpo committee said they couldn&#8217;t see a problem with it and CB1 didn&#8217;t request a presentation to the whole board.  CB2&#8242;s Land Use voted unanimously in favor of the Vernon bike lane.  However after DoT presented to CB2&#8242;s general meeting the Chair Joe Conley tabled the discussion without a vote and requested that the DoT come up with a new plan for them.  And AFTER work had begun on Vernon CB1 wrote a letter opposing the bike lane, but this too never came to a vote before the general committee or even in a cabinet meeting.  I couldn&#8217;t tell you who decided to do that.</p>
<p>Additionally CB2 passed a resolution, proposed by member Al Volpe, to oppose the popular Skillman bike lanes, once again AFTER they had been installed.  This came about by sneaking the resolution into a meeting after the public portion had passed and without placing the resolution onto the agenda.  I know it wasn&#8217;t on the agenda b/c I personally called CB2&#8242;s office that day to ask if they would be discussing the bike lanes and 3 members of the Queens Committee attended to speak anyways.  They brought me a copy of the agenda, and no anti-bike resolution there either.  All of this is perfectly legit in the murky world of community boards.</p>
<p>At least in my neck of the woods, the CBs don&#8217;t reach out to elements of the community they aren&#8217;t familiar with.  They  don&#8217;t take the time to educate themselves on new policies or strategies in the city (whether or not they support them) and in many cases don&#8217;t even pay attention at their own meetings.  CB2 doesn&#8217;t even have a Transportation Committee but Gershon wants to give them more power over transportation issues.  How is that responsible?</p>
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		<title>By: J</title>
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		<dc:creator>J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 22:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If politicians start facing off against their own CBs, they will quickly find out who really represents the community.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If politicians start facing off against their own CBs, they will quickly find out who really represents the community.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Hymen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Hymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:33:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The last few DOT bike lane presentations I have seen at community board meetings have been nothing more than courtesy calls.  The agency has more or less stated that it will incorporate any community feedback that it deems relevant, but it requires no board vote because implementation is happening no matter what ... in the next couple weeks in some cases.

I am all in favor of an expanded bike path network, but I understand why some people are upset with the agency right now.  I re-read the Wiley Norvell statement above and note that &quot;SOME of the more contested lanes that had been put in had all passed through the Community Board process with overwhelming approval.&quot;  (Emphasis added.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The last few DOT bike lane presentations I have seen at community board meetings have been nothing more than courtesy calls.  The agency has more or less stated that it will incorporate any community feedback that it deems relevant, but it requires no board vote because implementation is happening no matter what &#8230; in the next couple weeks in some cases.</p>
<p>I am all in favor of an expanded bike path network, but I understand why some people are upset with the agency right now.  I re-read the Wiley Norvell statement above and note that &#8220;SOME of the more contested lanes that had been put in had all passed through the Community Board process with overwhelming approval.&#8221;  (Emphasis added.)</p>
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		<title>By: Wiley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wiley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 20:07:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Still, there&#039;s an important distinction between Community Board approval and Community Board input. There are lanes that were presented to Community Boards that didn&#039;t pass, like Vernon Boulevard in Queens, that got installed anyway. While it&#039;s important to present at every board about bike lanes and street improvements, approval is not and should not be mandatory.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Still, there&#8217;s an important distinction between Community Board approval and Community Board input. There are lanes that were presented to Community Boards that didn&#8217;t pass, like Vernon Boulevard in Queens, that got installed anyway. While it&#8217;s important to present at every board about bike lanes and street improvements, approval is not and should not be mandatory.</p>
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