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	<title>Comments on: Where They Stand, Or Don&#8217;t: The MTA Doomsday Scorecard</title>
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		<title>By: beng722</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/25/where-they-stand-or-dont-the-mta-doomsday-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-59461</link>
		<dc:creator>beng722</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 05:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and Quinn?  where does she stand?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and Quinn?  where does she stand?</p>
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		<title>By: paulb</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/25/where-they-stand-or-dont-the-mta-doomsday-scorecard/comment-page-1/#comment-59454</link>
		<dc:creator>paulb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:39:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some doubts about the extra car registration fee. First, it&#039;s not so hard to register a car out of state if you&#039;ve got some relatives outside the city, or something like that.

More important, if you raise the cost of merely owning a car, the owners may feel more impelled to drive it because they want to get use from it. And I don&#039;t really object to people owning cars: it&#039;s over-use that bothers me. I still think the bridge tolls and &quot;congestion&quot; (badly needs a new name) charge are the best ways to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some doubts about the extra car registration fee. First, it's not so hard to register a car out of state if you've got some relatives outside the city, or something like that.</p>
<p>More important, if you raise the cost of merely owning a car, the owners may feel more impelled to drive it because they want to get use from it. And I don't really object to people owning cars: it's over-use that bothers me. I still think the bridge tolls and "congestion" (badly needs a new name) charge are the best ways to go.</p>
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		<title>By: BrooklynBus</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrooklynBus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:21:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The MTA must not cut service or raise fares.  The NYS Controller believes there are better ways to stem the budget deficit, such as through organizational changes.  Channel 7 recently disclosed that certain work rules necessitate some workers receiving a full days pay for an hour or two of actual work. How many other inefficiencies are built into the system?  These need to be corrected first.

Planning Service Guidelines were instituted to assure that each route is provided with adequate levels of service. The MTA would use these guidelines to justify existing service levels when responding to claims that lines were underserved and to justify past service cuts. 

Now that ridership is at a 40 year high, and service cuts cannot be made under existing off-peak guidelines of a 100% seated load, the MTA arbitrarily changes the guidelines to 125% seated load which means that there will be four seats for every five people riding, on average.  In other words, there will be a 20% chance you will have to stand for most of your trip during non-rush hours. 

Changes to these guidelines should require approval of the State Legislature, providing an incentive for the MTA to first remove its inefficiencies before taking such drastic actions as cutting service and raising the fare. These actions will chase away the new riders that it took so long to attract.  We must never get back into that downward spiral of higher fares and less service resulting in fewer riders, less revenue and less maintenance before the cycle starts all over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The MTA must not cut service or raise fares.  The NYS Controller believes there are better ways to stem the budget deficit, such as through organizational changes.  Channel 7 recently disclosed that certain work rules necessitate some workers receiving a full days pay for an hour or two of actual work. How many other inefficiencies are built into the system?  These need to be corrected first.</p>
<p>Planning Service Guidelines were instituted to assure that each route is provided with adequate levels of service. The MTA would use these guidelines to justify existing service levels when responding to claims that lines were underserved and to justify past service cuts. </p>
<p>Now that ridership is at a 40 year high, and service cuts cannot be made under existing off-peak guidelines of a 100% seated load, the MTA arbitrarily changes the guidelines to 125% seated load which means that there will be four seats for every five people riding, on average.  In other words, there will be a 20% chance you will have to stand for most of your trip during non-rush hours. </p>
<p>Changes to these guidelines should require approval of the State Legislature, providing an incentive for the MTA to first remove its inefficiencies before taking such drastic actions as cutting service and raising the fare. These actions will chase away the new riders that it took so long to attract.  We must never get back into that downward spiral of higher fares and less service resulting in fewer riders, less revenue and less maintenance before the cycle starts all over again.</p>
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		<title>By: Sell 370 Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sell 370 Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:29:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, examine MTA&#039;s finances and assets. This must be done before you start cutting services or charging people more for anything.
http://mtapleasefixjay.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, examine MTA's finances and assets. This must be done before you start cutting services or charging people more for anything.<br />
<a href="http://mtapleasefixjay.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://mtapleasefixjay.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surprise!  Every elected official who represents a specific geographic area opposes measures that would require his constituents to pay more and/or supports measures that would require those who are not his constituents to pay more.

To be fair, I guess Marty Markowitz (to use one example) is doing his job by opposing measures that would cost his some of his constituents money, but this just reinforces the need for leadership from Bloomberg and Paterson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surprise!  Every elected official who represents a specific geographic area opposes measures that would require his constituents to pay more and/or supports measures that would require those who are not his constituents to pay more.</p>
<p>To be fair, I guess Marty Markowitz (to use one example) is doing his job by opposing measures that would cost his some of his constituents money, but this just reinforces the need for leadership from Bloomberg and Paterson.</p>
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		<title>By: Marty Barfowitz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Marty Barfowitz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>During the congestion mitigation commission hearings, Brodsky repeatedly said that he disagreed with congestion pricing as a policy but agreed with Mayor Bloomberg that the state legislature had a responsibility to come up with solutions for traffic congestion and transit financing. 

Through his near total silence on these issues today, we now see that Brodsky never had any intention to try to address these problems or address transportation policy and financing in any substantial way. Brodsky&#039;s only objective was to stick a thumb in the mayor&#039;s eye and save his Westchester, car-commuting constituents a few bucks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>During the congestion mitigation commission hearings, Brodsky repeatedly said that he disagreed with congestion pricing as a policy but agreed with Mayor Bloomberg that the state legislature had a responsibility to come up with solutions for traffic congestion and transit financing. </p>
<p>Through his near total silence on these issues today, we now see that Brodsky never had any intention to try to address these problems or address transportation policy and financing in any substantial way. Brodsky's only objective was to stick a thumb in the mayor's eye and save his Westchester, car-commuting constituents a few bucks.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 18:51:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I oppose more taxes on wages, taxes on property, or taxes on jobs, higher fares, and service cuts.  All would be worth it to keep a quality transportation system.  

But the game of chicken has gone long enough, and the debt are retiree obligations are so great, that it may be too late.  It is likely to go to its logical conclusion -- bankruptcy and shutdown -- or the MTA is likely to limp along doing worse and worse until most agree that a bankruptcy and shutdown would have been preferable.  The most selfish members of their generations have won.

I stand next to a bicycle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I oppose more taxes on wages, taxes on property, or taxes on jobs, higher fares, and service cuts.  All would be worth it to keep a quality transportation system.  </p>
<p>But the game of chicken has gone long enough, and the debt are retiree obligations are so great, that it may be too late.  It is likely to go to its logical conclusion -- bankruptcy and shutdown -- or the MTA is likely to limp along doing worse and worse until most agree that a bankruptcy and shutdown would have been preferable.  The most selfish members of their generations have won.</p>
<p>I stand next to a bicycle.</p>
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