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	<title>Comments on: Tonight: See the Blueprint for a New Upper West Side</title>
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		<title>By: UESider</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-59290</link>
		<dc:creator>UESider</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:03:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, this looks great.  Any protected bike lane is great. When will the UES get some bike lanes that work?  How about a protected lane from uptown to down and reverse on both Second and Third Avenues?  That would be amazing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, this looks great.  Any protected bike lane is great. When will the UES get some bike lanes that work?  How about a protected lane from uptown to down and reverse on both Second and Third Avenues?  That would be amazing.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-59255</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:50:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#25 tompkins,  Buses go for about one-half million dollars plus driver salary and expensive infrastructure, maintenance, make lots of noise; they  clog streets, etc.  And, you have to get to them, wait for them to pick you up, wait for them to take you on the way to where you are going, and figure out how to finally get to where you are going after they drop you off.

How many bikes can be bought for one-half million bucks?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#25 tompkins,  Buses go for about one-half million dollars plus driver salary and expensive infrastructure, maintenance, make lots of noise; they  clog streets, etc.  And, you have to get to them, wait for them to pick you up, wait for them to take you on the way to where you are going, and figure out how to finally get to where you are going after they drop you off.</p>
<p>How many bikes can be bought for one-half million bucks?</p>
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		<title>By: tompkins</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-59248</link>
		<dc:creator>tompkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:36:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#24 I don&#039;t knock bikes, but I think this whole plan is bike-biased instead of being a really balanced plan.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#24 I don&#8217;t knock bikes, but I think this whole plan is bike-biased instead of being a really balanced plan.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-59092</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#23 tompkins, Don&#039;t knock bikes!  Most likely the industrial revolution in China would have been impossible without its 600 million cyclists.

Buses don&#039;t come close especially, when people get used to much better ways to travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#23 tompkins, Don&#8217;t knock bikes!  Most likely the industrial revolution in China would have been impossible without its 600 million cyclists.</p>
<p>Buses don&#8217;t come close especially, when people get used to much better ways to travel.</p>
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		<title>By: tompkins</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-59082</link>
		<dc:creator>tompkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 05:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This plan is surprisinlgy limited and I agree with those who have noted that it basically ignores transit riders and gives over space to bicylists. Aside from the dangers others with putting a bike lane adjacent to the passing lane and crossing both turning vehicles and major pedestrian crosswalks, why doesn&#039;t this plan make Broadway a major transit street? It should have a restricted bus lane with electric, low floor fancy buses and custom bus shelters with all the bells and whistles the city and MTA can provide. Or how about streetcars! A lot more people would use transit than ride bikes. 
 
As I see it, the UWS resident survey showed dedicated bus lanes almost as high a priority as bike lanes.  The plan also proposes that Amsterdam Avenue be a &quot;transit corridor&quot; but when you look at the plan for Amsterdam, what do you see?....bike lanes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This plan is surprisinlgy limited and I agree with those who have noted that it basically ignores transit riders and gives over space to bicylists. Aside from the dangers others with putting a bike lane adjacent to the passing lane and crossing both turning vehicles and major pedestrian crosswalks, why doesn&#8217;t this plan make Broadway a major transit street? It should have a restricted bus lane with electric, low floor fancy buses and custom bus shelters with all the bells and whistles the city and MTA can provide. Or how about streetcars! A lot more people would use transit than ride bikes. </p>
<p>As I see it, the UWS resident survey showed dedicated bus lanes almost as high a priority as bike lanes.  The plan also proposes that Amsterdam Avenue be a &#8220;transit corridor&#8221; but when you look at the plan for Amsterdam, what do you see?&#8230;.bike lanes!</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58997</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 20:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to marvel that the first impressions are dreamlike of the improvements, street designing for people on a scale that will make a difference with blessings to TA and DoT for the hard work and vision but, actually they could go further; where taken to the logical extreme would be extensive same-level pedestrian pathing including intersections where slightly lower cycle tracks would gently rise up as well as cars traveling at the lowest level on routes not so straight to temper speeds along with mid-block pedestrian neck-downs to crossways for &quot;safer jaywalking&quot; etc.; all the really good stuff that these pros know so well; ultimately requiring only modest expenditures considering the benefits especially when done city-wide on the way to an urban Eden.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to marvel that the first impressions are dreamlike of the improvements, street designing for people on a scale that will make a difference with blessings to TA and DoT for the hard work and vision but, actually they could go further; where taken to the logical extreme would be extensive same-level pedestrian pathing including intersections where slightly lower cycle tracks would gently rise up as well as cars traveling at the lowest level on routes not so straight to temper speeds along with mid-block pedestrian neck-downs to crossways for &#8220;safer jaywalking&#8221; etc.; all the really good stuff that these pros know so well; ultimately requiring only modest expenditures considering the benefits especially when done city-wide on the way to an urban Eden.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58959</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 17:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: &quot;Paris-style wide bus/bike/taxi lane&quot;

Does anyone have a photo or diagram of how these work? I&#039;m blanking. But I think they must have a lane for the bicycle to be passed (that is opposite the side the bus stops on) or they would be no better than a regular traffic lane. If it does have a lane, I guess they can at least save space by skipping the buffer. But in this city taxis would clog the lane for busses because they are so cheap and plentiful compared to western european cities. We would have to raise taxi fares and reduce placards (and use the money to replace the fleet with nicer, smaller, fuel efficient cars!) for it to work. Which would be a good thing to do to reduce emissions, but only as part of a trade for congestion pricing on private cars of course.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: &#8220;Paris-style wide bus/bike/taxi lane&#8221;</p>
<p>Does anyone have a photo or diagram of how these work? I&#8217;m blanking. But I think they must have a lane for the bicycle to be passed (that is opposite the side the bus stops on) or they would be no better than a regular traffic lane. If it does have a lane, I guess they can at least save space by skipping the buffer. But in this city taxis would clog the lane for busses because they are so cheap and plentiful compared to western european cities. We would have to raise taxi fares and reduce placards (and use the money to replace the fleet with nicer, smaller, fuel efficient cars!) for it to work. Which would be a good thing to do to reduce emissions, but only as part of a trade for congestion pricing on private cars of course.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58952</link>
		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woops!  Shemp you are exactly right.  

I rushed through the document last night however my comments still stand about this proposal and the bike lane engineering DoT has already installed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woops!  Shemp you are exactly right.  </p>
<p>I rushed through the document last night however my comments still stand about this proposal and the bike lane engineering DoT has already installed.</p>
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		<title>By: AndyP</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58947</link>
		<dc:creator>AndyP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 15:24:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m liking the fact that bike lanes are near the median, less likely to be used by pedestrians/joggers/vendors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m liking the fact that bike lanes are near the median, less likely to be used by pedestrians/joggers/vendors.</p>
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		<title>By: Shemp</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58942</link>
		<dc:creator>Shemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A lot of the comments here seem to think this is the city&#039;s plan, but it&#039;s basically a T.A. proposal.  

The NY Post obscured the difference in its article earlier this week and the intro above on this page isn&#039;t really crystal clear either.  

I also doubt Gehl had specific design input here, as some comments also imply.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A lot of the comments here seem to think this is the city&#8217;s plan, but it&#8217;s basically a T.A. proposal.  </p>
<p>The NY Post obscured the difference in its article earlier this week and the intro above on this page isn&#8217;t really crystal clear either.  </p>
<p>I also doubt Gehl had specific design input here, as some comments also imply.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58937</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:24:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s also nice is that the medians start to be more accessible to people and be the &quot;soft&quot; green places that greatly improve public space.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s also nice is that the medians start to be more accessible to people and be the &#8220;soft&#8221; green places that greatly improve public space.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58928</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 02:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cycle tracks down the center of streets could really be a big improvement.  Besides the great reduction in conflicts with both cars and pedestrians it really seems difficult for cars to park in them even if there weren&#039;t bollards.

Should not be a big deal for a cyclist to cross at the corner. 

It also makes a statement about the importance of cycling.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cycle tracks down the center of streets could really be a big improvement.  Besides the great reduction in conflicts with both cars and pedestrians it really seems difficult for cars to park in them even if there weren&#8217;t bollards.</p>
<p>Should not be a big deal for a cyclist to cross at the corner. </p>
<p>It also makes a statement about the importance of cycling.</p>
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		<title>By: Andy B from Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy B from Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:34:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like many aspects of this plan and greatly appreciate the boldness of NYCDoT&#039;s designs, however I have major reservations about the Broadway Blvd median bikes lanes.

I know the reasoning behind why the Broadway Blvd was design with the lanes along the median (eliminates dooring, right hook hazards, etc) but I feel this design way too beyond the norm of what and where a bicycle lane is expected to be.  I personally know of no other place in the world that has built such a design. 

First off, cyclists have no dedicated access to the shops and residences along Broadway with this configuration.  The lane is protected with bollards (which are possibly connected by chains).  Cyclists would have to cross the two lanes of Broadway to get to the curb.  Doable for most and maybe not a real hazard except for the real potential of riding into a bollard (it happens in Paris all the time where they love using bollards).  

Also, I ask if the bollards actually provide any real protection to cyclists from speeding cars.  I don&#039;t think so.  And while the left side (median in this case) bike lanes do eliminate conflicts with buses, some dooring issues and right hooks (not left hooks in many places), placement of the lane on the left does leave cyclists exposed to faster moving cars.  I think this is a major hazard not ever talked about on this blog.

While riding up 8th Ave the other week I noticed that the faster traffic was in the left lane directly next to the bike lane.  This is common motoring practice with slower traffic on the right.  I know I&#039;m stating the obvious but the cars in the right were often moving at a crawl while the cars in the left just several feet from my right shoulder were aggressively moving their way through traffic well above the posted limit.

Speed doesn&#039;t kill.  It&#039;s the difference in speed that kills.  I&#039;d rather ride my bike on the right side of the road with the cars going around my 10 to 15 mph then be only a few feet away from cars going 35 to 50.

Also this is the third, maybe forth different bike lane placement I&#039;ve seen NYCDoT do.  I&#039;ve got around 60,000 miles of riding experience which was done mostly in Jersey but some in 8 countries on two continents and in at least 7 other states and I&#039;m always confused as to where I should be on the road when I ride in NYC.  This is what goes through my mind as I ride in NYC:

There&#039;s no bike lane on this one way street.  Should I stay to the right?  Oh wait there&#039;s a bike lane on the left!  Oh its gone.  Should I them merge back over to the right?  Oh the street goes from one way to two!  Damn!  I&#039;m on the left!  I got to get over right.  Hey now there is a lane on the right side of the road (since its a two way).

I&#039;m sorry, you New Yorker&#039;s can defend this left side bike lane all you want but I still think it&#039;s just too damned confusing and its got some real safety issues since it exposes riders to faster moving traffic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like many aspects of this plan and greatly appreciate the boldness of NYCDoT&#8217;s designs, however I have major reservations about the Broadway Blvd median bikes lanes.</p>
<p>I know the reasoning behind why the Broadway Blvd was design with the lanes along the median (eliminates dooring, right hook hazards, etc) but I feel this design way too beyond the norm of what and where a bicycle lane is expected to be.  I personally know of no other place in the world that has built such a design. </p>
<p>First off, cyclists have no dedicated access to the shops and residences along Broadway with this configuration.  The lane is protected with bollards (which are possibly connected by chains).  Cyclists would have to cross the two lanes of Broadway to get to the curb.  Doable for most and maybe not a real hazard except for the real potential of riding into a bollard (it happens in Paris all the time where they love using bollards).  </p>
<p>Also, I ask if the bollards actually provide any real protection to cyclists from speeding cars.  I don&#8217;t think so.  And while the left side (median in this case) bike lanes do eliminate conflicts with buses, some dooring issues and right hooks (not left hooks in many places), placement of the lane on the left does leave cyclists exposed to faster moving cars.  I think this is a major hazard not ever talked about on this blog.</p>
<p>While riding up 8th Ave the other week I noticed that the faster traffic was in the left lane directly next to the bike lane.  This is common motoring practice with slower traffic on the right.  I know I&#8217;m stating the obvious but the cars in the right were often moving at a crawl while the cars in the left just several feet from my right shoulder were aggressively moving their way through traffic well above the posted limit.</p>
<p>Speed doesn&#8217;t kill.  It&#8217;s the difference in speed that kills.  I&#8217;d rather ride my bike on the right side of the road with the cars going around my 10 to 15 mph then be only a few feet away from cars going 35 to 50.</p>
<p>Also this is the third, maybe forth different bike lane placement I&#8217;ve seen NYCDoT do.  I&#8217;ve got around 60,000 miles of riding experience which was done mostly in Jersey but some in 8 countries on two continents and in at least 7 other states and I&#8217;m always confused as to where I should be on the road when I ride in NYC.  This is what goes through my mind as I ride in NYC:</p>
<p>There&#8217;s no bike lane on this one way street.  Should I stay to the right?  Oh wait there&#8217;s a bike lane on the left!  Oh its gone.  Should I them merge back over to the right?  Oh the street goes from one way to two!  Damn!  I&#8217;m on the left!  I got to get over right.  Hey now there is a lane on the right side of the road (since its a two way).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry, you New Yorker&#8217;s can defend this left side bike lane all you want but I still think it&#8217;s just too damned confusing and its got some real safety issues since it exposes riders to faster moving traffic.</p>
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		<title>By: AviationMetalSmith</title>
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		<dc:creator>AviationMetalSmith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:32:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea. I live on Long Island, but I like to bring my bike into Manhattan on the LIRR.

I ride where I can, but the Bike Lanes and Bikeways need to be interconnected. Last time I was in Manhattan, I had people asking if I was a Cop, because my bike has so many lights, it looks like a Police Bike. I can put lights on and stop traffic, but the average bicycle rider doesn&#039;t have this many lights.
http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/photo_0023-1.jpg

I like the way the Bus Lane on 34th street is painted red. I guess it is some kind of epoxy? The green bike lanes will use the same kind of material, I assume?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea. I live on Long Island, but I like to bring my bike into Manhattan on the LIRR.</p>
<p>I ride where I can, but the Bike Lanes and Bikeways need to be interconnected. Last time I was in Manhattan, I had people asking if I was a Cop, because my bike has so many lights, it looks like a Police Bike. I can put lights on and stop traffic, but the average bicycle rider doesn&#8217;t have this many lights.<br />
<a href="http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/photo_0023-1.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q119/hotbike/photo_0023-1.jpg</a></p>
<p>I like the way the Bus Lane on 34th street is painted red. I guess it is some kind of epoxy? The green bike lanes will use the same kind of material, I assume?</p>
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		<title>By: Stacy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stacy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 23:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Broadway on the Upper West Side has always been one of the grand boulevards with mini parks with benches. Adding dedicated bike lanes should enhance this pedestrian space. What concerns me is that cars often see the left, non-bus lane, as the fast lane. I hope there&#039;ll be a generous buffer with bollards to separate the two.


Cap&#039;n Transit&#039;s suggestion of a  Paris-style wide bus/bike/taxi lane would certainly be a more efficient use of space on this heavily used throughfare and could significantly increase transit options. Just imagine busses as a viable alternative to the long overcrowded #1 train.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Broadway on the Upper West Side has always been one of the grand boulevards with mini parks with benches. Adding dedicated bike lanes should enhance this pedestrian space. What concerns me is that cars often see the left, non-bus lane, as the fast lane. I hope there&#8217;ll be a generous buffer with bollards to separate the two.</p>
<p>Cap&#8217;n Transit&#8217;s suggestion of a  Paris-style wide bus/bike/taxi lane would certainly be a more efficient use of space on this heavily used throughfare and could significantly increase transit options. Just imagine busses as a viable alternative to the long overcrowded #1 train.</p>
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		<title>By: jginsbu</title>
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		<dc:creator>jginsbu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall, very impressive.  I hope it comes to pass.

I&#039;m particularly happy to see the use of angle parking alternating mid-block so as to function as a traffic calming chicane (see p.32).  Despite the fact that this arrangement can be parking-neutral (no loss of spaces), it&#039;s interaction with street cleaning will raise vociferous opposition from motorists who are accustomed to double-park their vehicles during alternate side parking: this won&#039;t be possible with angle parking.  The report does not give any indication of what might be done to make this arrangement more palatable on that front, such as reducing the frequency of street cleaning perhaps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall, very impressive.  I hope it comes to pass.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m particularly happy to see the use of angle parking alternating mid-block so as to function as a traffic calming chicane (see p.32).  Despite the fact that this arrangement can be parking-neutral (no loss of spaces), it&#8217;s interaction with street cleaning will raise vociferous opposition from motorists who are accustomed to double-park their vehicles during alternate side parking: this won&#8217;t be possible with angle parking.  The report does not give any indication of what might be done to make this arrangement more palatable on that front, such as reducing the frequency of street cleaning perhaps.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58918</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 22:21:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the link, Max.

&lt;blockquote&gt;&quot;The driver went into a panic,&quot; she recalls. &quot;Everybody was blowing horns. He couldn&#039;t figure out which way to turn.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;

WTF?  Bad cabbie!  No tip for you!

Oh, and Steve Cuozzo is clearly an asshole who has no interest in civil discourse.  In other words, a typical &lt;i&gt;Post&lt;/i&gt; columnist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the link, Max.</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8220;The driver went into a panic,&#8221; she recalls. &#8220;Everybody was blowing horns. He couldn&#8217;t figure out which way to turn.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
<p>WTF?  Bad cabbie!  No tip for you!</p>
<p>Oh, and Steve Cuozzo is clearly an asshole who has no interest in civil discourse.  In other words, a typical <i>Post</i> columnist.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58914</link>
		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, if you like this plan, live on the UPWS and care about your neighborhood and livable streets, please, please join Community Board 7. If you need convincing, just look at what the good folks at Manhattan Community Board 2 (Lower West Side), have achieved. More than anything this plan needs support from people on the community board. (CB 7 is from 60th to 110th Park to River.)For info on how to do that see 
www.livablestreets.com/projects/uws/blog/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, if you like this plan, live on the UPWS and care about your neighborhood and livable streets, please, please join Community Board 7. If you need convincing, just look at what the good folks at Manhattan Community Board 2 (Lower West Side), have achieved. More than anything this plan needs support from people on the community board. (CB 7 is from 60th to 110th Park to River.)For info on how to do that see<br />
<a href="http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/uws/blog/" rel="nofollow">http://www.livablestreets.com/projects/uws/blog/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Max Rockatansky</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/13/tonight-see-the-blueprint-for-a-new-upper-west-side/comment-page-1/#comment-58912</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Rockatansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry - I think my long link ^ broke the page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry &#8211; I think my long link ^ broke the page.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Rockatansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Rockatansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 21:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Awesome - but I don&#039;t think the Post feels the same way....

http://www.nypost.com/seven/11132008/news/columnists/idiotic_dot_takes_a_walk_on_the_wild_sid_138505.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Awesome &#8211; but I don&#8217;t think the Post feels the same way&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nypost.com/seven/11132008/news/columnists/idiotic_dot_takes_a_walk_on_the_wild_sid_138505.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.nypost.com/seven/11132008/news/columnists/idiotic_dot_takes_a_walk_on_the_wild_sid_138505.htm</a></p>
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