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	<title>Comments on: Manhattan Buses Dominate Pokey and Schleppie Awards</title>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/12/manhattan-buses-dominate-pokey-and-schleppie-awards/comment-page-1/#comment-58889</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 16:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Once again my bus the M96 &quot;wins&quot;--argh!  I agree Nic that a bike is not a complete substitute for a bus system, but it is almost a complete substitute (weather permitting) for a particular bus like the M96, that runs a level 4 miles through relatively calm but highly congested traffic (excluding the CP transverse).

I often bicycle with my 11 y/o son on 96th St. to get to school.  Most mornings he wants to ride, but occasionally (especially if he didn&#039;t get enough sleep) he insists on taking the M96.  Invariably, he&#039;s telling me that he regrets not bicycling by the end of the ride.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Once again my bus the M96 "wins"--argh!  I agree Nic that a bike is not a complete substitute for a bus system, but it is almost a complete substitute (weather permitting) for a particular bus like the M96, that runs a level 4 miles through relatively calm but highly congested traffic (excluding the CP transverse).</p>
<p>I often bicycle with my 11 y/o son on 96th St. to get to school.  Most mornings he wants to ride, but occasionally (especially if he didn't get enough sleep) he insists on taking the M96.  Invariably, he's telling me that he regrets not bicycling by the end of the ride.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:09:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve &lt;a href=&quot;http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/04/another-brt-bait-and-switch.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;written about the Pokeys&lt;/a&gt; and the Schleppies before.  My main criticism is that, rather than a blanket endorsement of BRT, I&#039;d like to see some BRT solutions that are specific to each line.

For example, are there terra-cotta bus lanes in store for 96th Street or Fourteenth Street?  Should the DOT be planning Select Bus Service for Third and Lexington Avenues instead of First and Second?  145th and 149th Streets instead of Fordham Road?  Fifth Avenue in Brooklyn instead of Bedford?  Are there particular bottlenecks for any of those routes?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I've <a href="http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/04/another-brt-bait-and-switch.html" rel="nofollow">written about the Pokeys</a> and the Schleppies before.  My main criticism is that, rather than a blanket endorsement of BRT, I'd like to see some BRT solutions that are specific to each line.</p>
<p>For example, are there terra-cotta bus lanes in store for 96th Street or Fourteenth Street?  Should the DOT be planning Select Bus Service for Third and Lexington Avenues instead of First and Second?  145th and 149th Streets instead of Fordham Road?  Fifth Avenue in Brooklyn instead of Bedford?  Are there particular bottlenecks for any of those routes?</p>
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		<title>By: Niccolo Machiavelli</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niccolo Machiavelli</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love bikes, and I&#039;m in very good shape for my generation.  Still I had a fall a couple months back that I&#039;m lucky to have come out of, no car involved.  Bikes are a great way to get around NYC but don&#039;t replace a bus system by any measure.  Sure, you don&#039;t have to pay for someone else&#039;s ride, and use up very little road space relative to the space eating cars.

I do sympathize though with Larry&#039;s point of view on the advocates making fun of the system they advocate for.  It is hard to get attention in the intense media environment we live in but in the end, how does the public build up the will to fund a system that we have just been making fun of?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love bikes, and I'm in very good shape for my generation.  Still I had a fall a couple months back that I'm lucky to have come out of, no car involved.  Bikes are a great way to get around NYC but don't replace a bus system by any measure.  Sure, you don't have to pay for someone else's ride, and use up very little road space relative to the space eating cars.</p>
<p>I do sympathize though with Larry's point of view on the advocates making fun of the system they advocate for.  It is hard to get attention in the intense media environment we live in but in the end, how does the public build up the will to fund a system that we have just been making fun of?</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Larry: &quot;who would benefit and who would lose from replacing the bus system with Velib?&quot;

The answer is that no one would gain, and no one would lose, because it is impossible to replace the bus system with Velib. The disabled and most of the elderly can&#039;t ride bikes. Many other people, myself included, are disinclined to use bikes, preferring the bus or the subway -- even with higher fares and less service.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry: "who would benefit and who would lose from replacing the bus system with Velib?"</p>
<p>The answer is that no one would gain, and no one would lose, because it is impossible to replace the bus system with Velib. The disabled and most of the elderly can't ride bikes. Many other people, myself included, are disinclined to use bikes, preferring the bus or the subway -- even with higher fares and less service.</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 21:08:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eighteen months from now there may not be any buses for Russianoff to make fun of.

Which makes you think -- who would benefit and who would lose from replacing the bus system with Velib?  

And how does that line up with those who benefitted from the &quot;cash in now to hell with the future&quot; policies of the past 15 years?

It seems to me that younger generations are not responsible for what we face, and they are more likely to be in the modestly decent shape required to get around by bicycle, and more likely to stay in that shape if they do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eighteen months from now there may not be any buses for Russianoff to make fun of.</p>
<p>Which makes you think -- who would benefit and who would lose from replacing the bus system with Velib?  </p>
<p>And how does that line up with those who benefitted from the "cash in now to hell with the future" policies of the past 15 years?</p>
<p>It seems to me that younger generations are not responsible for what we face, and they are more likely to be in the modestly decent shape required to get around by bicycle, and more likely to stay in that shape if they do.</p>
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