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		<title>By: J. Mork</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/07/todays-headlines-524/comment-page-1/#comment-58717</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 02:38:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://www.nydailynews.com/ny_local/2008/11/08/2008-11-08_tolls_could_be_next_for_4_city_bridges.html

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A state commission is considering adding tolls to the Brooklyn, Manhattan, Williamsburg and 59th Street bridges to ease the MTA&#039;s billion-dollar budget hole, sources said.

[...]

The Ravitch Commission, appointed by Gov. Paterson to find a long-term solution to the MTA&#039;s financial woes, is expected to hand over its recommendations on new funding sources for the MTA next month. 
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A state commission is considering adding tolls to the Brooklyn, Manhattan, Williamsburg and 59th Street bridges to ease the MTA's billion-dollar budget hole, sources said.</p>
<p>[...]</p>
<p>The Ravitch Commission, appointed by Gov. Paterson to find a long-term solution to the MTA's financial woes, is expected to hand over its recommendations on new funding sources for the MTA next month.
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/07/todays-headlines-524/comment-page-1/#comment-58695</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 16:42:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Added James Yglesias of Brooklyn Heights: &quot;You can&#039;t punish us for driving.&quot;&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Can we at least charge you for the extra cost of driving over other modes of transportation?

In any case, I&#039;m not believing it until I hear it from a legislative leader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Added James Yglesias of Brooklyn Heights: "You can't punish us for driving."</p></blockquote>
<p>Can we at least charge you for the extra cost of driving over other modes of transportation?</p>
<p>In any case, I'm not believing it until I hear it from a legislative leader.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Dutton</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/07/todays-headlines-524/comment-page-1/#comment-58693</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Dutton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have actually been avoiding updating Fahr-Info on my iPhone because I don&#039;t want to lose the map feature. The app has been *very* useful on my trips to Berlin and I often use it to demonstrate how far behind MTA is in providing comprehensive service to its users. 

It&#039;s curious that BVG would prefer to lower itself to the MTA&#039;s user-unfriendliness. For what purpose? No one is making a profit from the artistic rendition of Berlin&#039;s metro map. If anything, BVG should consider paying the app programmer for providing a value-added service to the transit system&#039;s users: the public who invest and support the existence and operation of that system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have actually been avoiding updating Fahr-Info on my iPhone because I don't want to lose the map feature. The app has been *very* useful on my trips to Berlin and I often use it to demonstrate how far behind MTA is in providing comprehensive service to its users. </p>
<p>It's curious that BVG would prefer to lower itself to the MTA's user-unfriendliness. For what purpose? No one is making a profit from the artistic rendition of Berlin's metro map. If anything, BVG should consider paying the app programmer for providing a value-added service to the transit system's users: the public who invest and support the existence and operation of that system.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Mork</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/07/todays-headlines-524/comment-page-1/#comment-58692</link>
		<dc:creator>J. Mork</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 Nov 2008 13:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sources: MTA To Toll All East River Bridges
Cash-Strapped MTA About To Drop Hammer On Everyone
Congestion Pricing May Also Be Back On The Table

http://wcbstv.com/topstories/michael.bloomberg.east.2.859306.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sources: MTA To Toll All East River Bridges<br />
Cash-Strapped MTA About To Drop Hammer On Everyone<br />
Congestion Pricing May Also Be Back On The Table</p>
<p><a href="http://wcbstv.com/topstories/michael.bloomberg.east.2.859306.html" rel="nofollow">http://wcbstv.com/topstories/michael.bloomberg.east.2.859306.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/07/todays-headlines-524/comment-page-1/#comment-58684</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 21:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not saying they SHOULD make a copyright claim in this situation.  I&#039;m just saying they have (disclaimer: I don&#039;t know much about EU copyright law and am assuming it is comparable to US copyright law) the right to do so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm not saying they SHOULD make a copyright claim in this situation.  I'm just saying they have (disclaimer: I don't know much about EU copyright law and am assuming it is comparable to US copyright law) the right to do so.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/11/07/todays-headlines-524/comment-page-1/#comment-58680</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 19:32:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;which a very legitimate thing to assert copyright protection over&quot;

Why should public institutions (assuming this is one) make intellectual property claims in the first place? What possible gain is there for the public? It is absurd for the stewards of publicly supported work to claim any intellectual &quot;ownership&quot; that is exclusive of the very people that financed its production. This has come up before with riffs on subway maps around the world, and all I can figure is that there are lot of sad bureaucrats eager to throw their weight around, for no public gain. A similar situation here developed when weather forecasting lobbies tried to have the national weather service curtained off from the public (working through congressional Republicans, Santorum in particular), because the internet allows the information they produce to instantly reach the public at no great cost, disrupting the traditional forecasting business—a classic luddite scenario. In that case the NWS took the public&#039;s side and the effort at hiding the information failed. For the public and new businesses, giving away the already-produced information is the more productive course by far. That republicans often come out with the opposite opinion is just another way that they have been pro-business, anti-capitalist economic frauds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"which a very legitimate thing to assert copyright protection over"</p>
<p>Why should public institutions (assuming this is one) make intellectual property claims in the first place? What possible gain is there for the public? It is absurd for the stewards of publicly supported work to claim any intellectual "ownership" that is exclusive of the very people that financed its production. This has come up before with riffs on subway maps around the world, and all I can figure is that there are lot of sad bureaucrats eager to throw their weight around, for no public gain. A similar situation here developed when weather forecasting lobbies tried to have the national weather service curtained off from the public (working through congressional Republicans, Santorum in particular), because the internet allows the information they produce to instantly reach the public at no great cost, disrupting the traditional forecasting business—a classic luddite scenario. In that case the NWS took the public's side and the effort at hiding the information failed. For the public and new businesses, giving away the already-produced information is the more productive course by far. That republicans often come out with the opposite opinion is just another way that they have been pro-business, anti-capitalist economic frauds.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:48:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the risk of sounding like Larry, all these transit improvements are paid for by debt. Obviously infrastructure investment is important, but California is now has $136b of debt authorizations as a result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the risk of sounding like Larry, all these transit improvements are paid for by debt. Obviously infrastructure investment is important, but California is now has $136b of debt authorizations as a result.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 16:13:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From the comments, it seems like Wired got the story kind of wrong about the Berlin transit iPhone app.  People are saying that what they&#039;re objecting to is the unlicensed use of the graphical map (which a very legitimate thing to assert copyright protection over) and not the timetables (which are not).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From the comments, it seems like Wired got the story kind of wrong about the Berlin transit iPhone app.  People are saying that what they're objecting to is the unlicensed use of the graphical map (which a very legitimate thing to assert copyright protection over) and not the timetables (which are not).</p>
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