Comments on: NGOs Work to Fill Transit-Oriented Development Void http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/25/ngos-work-to-fill-transit-oriented-development-void/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 11:07:22 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Ian Turner http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/25/ngos-work-to-fill-transit-oriented-development-void/comment-page-1/#comment-151831 Ian Turner Wed, 11 Nov 2009 03:56:29 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4636#comment-151831 Rob, Wouldn't new residents also bring in additional tax revenue to cover the costs of educating their children? This especially since TOD tends to be at the higher end of the price range, owing to its apparent desirability. --Ian Rob,

Wouldn't new residents also bring in additional tax revenue to cover the costs of educating their children? This especially since TOD tends to be at the higher end of the price range, owing to its apparent desirability.

--Ian

]]> By: Rob B. http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/25/ngos-work-to-fill-transit-oriented-development-void/comment-page-1/#comment-151781 Rob B. Wed, 11 Nov 2009 01:55:52 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4636#comment-151781 JK writes, "transit oriented towns need to eliminate their counter productive parking requirements". The resistance to TOD in my village along the Hudson is that it would bring more units of housing. More units means bigger schools. Bigger schools mean higher taxes. Each kid in the school is a net loss to the district, since it will require a big school bond issuance to expand the schools. Until our development policies are delinked from school funding formulas, you're going to find resistance to TOD. JK writes, "transit oriented towns need to eliminate their counter productive parking requirements".

The resistance to TOD in my village along the Hudson is that it would bring more units of housing. More units means bigger schools. Bigger schools mean higher taxes. Each kid in the school is a net loss to the district, since it will require a big school bond issuance to expand the schools.

Until our development policies are delinked from school funding formulas, you're going to find resistance to TOD.

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/25/ngos-work-to-fill-transit-oriented-development-void/comment-page-1/#comment-56802 Angus Grieve-Smith Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:34:19 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4636#comment-56802 <blockquote>To this point, Slevin says, much TOD housing has been targeted at high-income buyers.</blockquote> High-income buyers who will not want to completely surrender the status of car ownership, and thus will require parking. That's the thinking that the developers and planners have, because they can't imagine giving up car ownership themselves. But of course, there are plenty of high-income buyers out there who would be quite happy without owning a car. We just need to convince the developers and planners of that. And get them to provide some TOD for medium and low-income buyers. Renters too.

To this point, Slevin says, much TOD housing has been targeted at high-income buyers.

High-income buyers who will not want to completely surrender the status of car ownership, and thus will require parking. That's the thinking that the developers and planners have, because they can't imagine giving up car ownership themselves. But of course, there are plenty of high-income buyers out there who would be quite happy without owning a car. We just need to convince the developers and planners of that. And get them to provide some TOD for medium and low-income buyers. Renters too.

]]> By: JK http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/25/ngos-work-to-fill-transit-oriented-development-void/comment-page-1/#comment-56798 JK Thu, 25 Sep 2008 22:19:06 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4636#comment-56798 Most of the Hudson towns served by MetroNorth require large amounts of parking near newly built amenities like restaurants, stores etc. This results in space gobbling, unwalkable, car dependent, box in parking field development. It's a disaster. More than tax incentives or grants, the transit oriented towns need to eliminate their counter productive parking requirements and start intelligently pricing existing curb and off-street parking. It is simply impossible to build TOD with existing parking requirements. Also, limiting TOD to a 1/4 to 1/2 mile of a train stop is a joke. The range should be a minimum of 1/2 mile to 3/4 mile, a mile would be better. Americans used to know how to walk. They can learn again. Most of the Hudson towns served by MetroNorth require large amounts of parking near newly built amenities like restaurants, stores etc. This results in space gobbling, unwalkable, car dependent, box in parking field development. It's a disaster. More than tax incentives or grants, the transit oriented towns need to eliminate their counter productive parking requirements and start intelligently pricing existing curb and off-street parking. It is simply impossible to build TOD with existing parking requirements. Also, limiting TOD to a 1/4 to 1/2 mile of a train stop is a joke. The range should be a minimum of 1/2 mile to 3/4 mile, a mile would be better. Americans used to know how to walk. They can learn again.

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