Comments on: Study Provides a New Vision for Allen and Pike Street Malls http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 10 Feb 2012 16:07:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Richard http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/comment-page-1/#comment-280994 Richard Tue, 09 Nov 2010 16:04:56 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4577#comment-280994 I have lived on Pike all my life and I have never ever wanted to hang out in the middle of traffic. Even when I was kid, I never did. It's noisy, there's too much car exhaust, passing cars kick up dirt that blows into the air that end up in your eyes or breathed in. I say move the traffic lanes towards the inside, use the very middle lane for a combined left turn lane. Give the reclaimed outer lane space to make real bike and parking lanes much like what has been done along First Ave. If there is space remaining, use it to widen the sidewalk a couple of feet. Yay wider sidewalks! Oh hey, how about using the reclaimed space to make a real bus lane. Who wouldn't like buses that actually arrived on time for a change. I have lived on Pike all my life and I have never ever wanted to hang out in the middle of traffic. Even when I was kid, I never did. It’s noisy, there’s too much car exhaust, passing cars kick up dirt that blows into the air that end up in your eyes or breathed in.

I say move the traffic lanes towards the inside, use the very middle lane for a combined left turn lane. Give the reclaimed outer lane space to make real bike and parking lanes much like what has been done along First Ave. If there is space remaining, use it to widen the sidewalk a couple of feet. Yay wider sidewalks! Oh hey, how about using the reclaimed space to make a real bus lane. Who wouldn’t like buses that actually arrived on time for a change.

]]> By: roger http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/comment-page-1/#comment-121031 roger Mon, 21 Sep 2009 02:47:48 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4577#comment-121031 Unfortunately, because Stanton Street has been blocked at Allen (and other changes), traffic has been so slow and clogged, drivers honk constantly. This is making living on Allen nearly intolerable! Unfortunately, because Stanton Street has been blocked at Allen (and other changes), traffic has been so slow and clogged, drivers honk constantly. This is making living on Allen nearly intolerable!

]]> By: Liam Patrick http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/comment-page-1/#comment-57814 Liam Patrick Mon, 20 Oct 2008 15:46:20 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4577#comment-57814 These renovations have been awesome. Hopefully people will want to use the parks again. These renovations have been awesome. Hopefully people will want to use the parks again.

]]> By: G http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/comment-page-1/#comment-56564 G Fri, 19 Sep 2008 20:09:04 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4577#comment-56564 When I moved to Allen Street in 2004, I contacted the Parks Department about improvements to the malls, and was completely stonewalled. Alas, now that things might actually be happening (maybe??), it's too late for me -- I moved uptown a month ago. Oh well! The renovated one looks nice; here's hoping the others are soon to follow. When I moved to Allen Street in 2004, I contacted the Parks Department about improvements to the malls, and was completely stonewalled.

Alas, now that things might actually be happening (maybe??), it’s too late for me — I moved uptown a month ago. Oh well! The renovated one looks nice; here’s hoping the others are soon to follow.

]]> By: ddartley http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/comment-page-1/#comment-56562 ddartley Fri, 19 Sep 2008 19:40:20 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4577#comment-56562 I wish them great success--*something* has to be done with Allen St. I live on First Ave, which becomes Allen St. Those "malls" just sit there wasting away; they hardly get used by anyone for anything. As a result, they look desolate, dirty, and dilapidated. One thing I worry their proposal doesn't do enough is WIDEN the mall. Then it needs to contain things that will truly attract people. Check out the lovely rendering on p. 12 of the pdf. Looks beautiful, but looks like the current narrowness is retained, and there's not much to draw pedestrians. Without widening the mall and adding cool stuff, that beautifully re-surfaced narrow mall will stay just as desolate, and years later it will be just as dilapidated as present. Good luck, that street (and Pike St.) needs a lot of life breathed into it--and it needs to be done in a way that will stick! (I'd definitely say narrow the car space! Could be done by widening the mall AND building a separated bike lane. (The current class II bike lane there is, of course, always invaded by cars)) I wish them great success–*something* has to be done with Allen St. I live on First Ave, which becomes Allen St. Those “malls” just sit there wasting away; they hardly get used by anyone for anything. As a result, they look desolate, dirty, and dilapidated.

One thing I worry their proposal doesn’t do enough is WIDEN the mall. Then it needs to contain things that will truly attract people. Check out the lovely rendering on p. 12 of the pdf. Looks beautiful, but looks like the current narrowness is retained, and there’s not much to draw pedestrians. Without widening the mall and adding cool stuff, that beautifully re-surfaced narrow mall will stay just as desolate, and years later it will be just as dilapidated as present.

Good luck, that street (and Pike St.) needs a lot of life breathed into it–and it needs to be done in a way that will stick!

(I’d definitely say narrow the car space! Could be done by widening the mall AND building a separated bike lane. (The current class II bike lane there is, of course, always invaded by cars))

]]> By: Sarah Goodyear http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/comment-page-1/#comment-56555 Sarah Goodyear Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:31:36 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4577#comment-56555 @rlb Thanks! Changed the picture. @rlb Thanks! Changed the picture.

]]> By: rlb http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/19/study-provides-a-new-vision-for-allen-and-pike-street-malls/comment-page-1/#comment-56552 rlb Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:05:00 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/?p=4577#comment-56552 That's a picture of Sara D. Roosevelt park. That’s a picture of Sara D. Roosevelt park.

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