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	<title>Comments on: One Year After $5M Promise, Downtown Brooklyn Safety Fixes Are Nowhere</title>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/10/one-year-after-5m-promise-downtown-brooklyn-safety-fixes-are-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-56253</link>
		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 01:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To clarify, last summer DOT stated that the build out of Phase 1 of the Downtown BK Traffic Calming Plan would begin in FY2008, which has come and gone.  Phase 1 includes specific engineering improvements to 49 intersections throughout the downtown neighborhoods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To clarify, last summer DOT stated that the build out of Phase 1 of the Downtown BK Traffic Calming Plan would begin in FY2008, which has come and gone.  Phase 1 includes specific engineering improvements to 49 intersections throughout the downtown neighborhoods.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kaehny</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/10/one-year-after-5m-promise-downtown-brooklyn-safety-fixes-are-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-56235</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kaehny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 20:27:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No doubt DOT is chagrined to see Downtown Brooklyn Traffic Calming delayed. This said, the project is wide ranging and involves tens of intersections and streets, and won&#039;t be completed overnight. Nor will it or any engineering changes make cyclists and pedestrians completely safe without laws and social mores which hold motorists accountable for dangerous and irresponsible behavior. Nor will cyclists and pedestrians be truly safe until motorists are required to take real drivers education courses and pass driving tests which actually require some skill and knowledge. Street engineering is probably the only bright spot in NYC street safety: drivers education (and awareness) is non-existent and law enforcement is undermined by weak laws and inconsistent enforcement.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No doubt DOT is chagrined to see Downtown Brooklyn Traffic Calming delayed. This said, the project is wide ranging and involves tens of intersections and streets, and won't be completed overnight. Nor will it or any engineering changes make cyclists and pedestrians completely safe without laws and social mores which hold motorists accountable for dangerous and irresponsible behavior. Nor will cyclists and pedestrians be truly safe until motorists are required to take real drivers education courses and pass driving tests which actually require some skill and knowledge. Street engineering is probably the only bright spot in NYC street safety: drivers education (and awareness) is non-existent and law enforcement is undermined by weak laws and inconsistent enforcement.</p>
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		<title>By: fdr</title>
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		<dc:creator>fdr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 16:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Orcutt&#039;s supportive comments in the August 31, 2007 item linked from this item are pretty vague, no mention of a time frame for these improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Orcutt's supportive comments in the August 31, 2007 item linked from this item are pretty vague, no mention of a time frame for these improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/10/one-year-after-5m-promise-downtown-brooklyn-safety-fixes-are-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-56186</link>
		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:54:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I expect DoT senior policy advisor (and former T.A. ED) Jon Orcutt is chagrinned to find himself as poster boy for this inexcusable failure.  While DoT has earned my thanks and support for moving with lightning speed to install bike lanes and public &quot;plazettes&quot; (Times Square, Gansevoort, Madison Square), much-needed safety improvements like this one in the outer boroughs can&#039;t be put on the back burner while Manhattan gets loaded up with amenities.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I expect DoT senior policy advisor (and former T.A. ED) Jon Orcutt is chagrinned to find himself as poster boy for this inexcusable failure.  While DoT has earned my thanks and support for moving with lightning speed to install bike lanes and public "plazettes" (Times Square, Gansevoort, Madison Square), much-needed safety improvements like this one in the outer boroughs can't be put on the back burner while Manhattan gets loaded up with amenities.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/10/one-year-after-5m-promise-downtown-brooklyn-safety-fixes-are-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-56158</link>
		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 20:51:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is an insult to families who have lost loved ones and the community at large when the police and government agencies don&#039;t take these initiatives seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is an insult to families who have lost loved ones and the community at large when the police and government agencies don't take these initiatives seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Steven O'Neill</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/10/one-year-after-5m-promise-downtown-brooklyn-safety-fixes-are-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-56141</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven O'Neill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Police Reports have been FOIA&#039;d in the past, such as they were for Right of Way&#039;s 1999 Report, &quot;Killed by Automobile&quot; (http://www.cars-suck.org/research/kba.html), a statistical study of pedestrian an cyclist deaths in NYC.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Police Reports have been FOIA'd in the past, such as they were for Right of Way's 1999 Report, "Killed by Automobile" (<a href="http://www.cars-suck.org/research/kba.html)" rel="nofollow">http://www.cars-suck.org/research/kba.html)</a>, a statistical study of pedestrian an cyclist deaths in NYC.</p>
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		<title>By: brooke</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/09/10/one-year-after-5m-promise-downtown-brooklyn-safety-fixes-are-nowhere/comment-page-1/#comment-56138</link>
		<dc:creator>brooke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It incomprehensible that the City would come to a community event and make promises directly to the families who lost their children on downtown Brooklyn streets and not follow through.

Showcase projects have been built in a matter of weeks throughout the city this summer.  This community has been waiting over a decade for basic pedestrian safety improvements and children are still being injured and killed.

This is not rocket science.  DOT and DDC need to get their act together on the Downtown Brooklyn Traffic Calming Plan and be accountable for the commitments they make to the public.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It incomprehensible that the City would come to a community event and make promises directly to the families who lost their children on downtown Brooklyn streets and not follow through.</p>
<p>Showcase projects have been built in a matter of weeks throughout the city this summer.  This community has been waiting over a decade for basic pedestrian safety improvements and children are still being injured and killed.</p>
<p>This is not rocket science.  DOT and DDC need to get their act together on the Downtown Brooklyn Traffic Calming Plan and be accountable for the commitments they make to the public.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A Towards Zero Death Initiative will greatly this city. 

Every time there is an injury from a car or truck, that place should become an area of intense scrutiny and improvements in ways to prevent another one ever happening again.

People who can take the responsibility to create the truly effective highly talented swat-team type task force would likely be:  The Mayor, DOT Commissioner, Health Department Commissioner.

All have proven themselves to be up to the task.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A Towards Zero Death Initiative will greatly this city. </p>
<p>Every time there is an injury from a car or truck, that place should become an area of intense scrutiny and improvements in ways to prevent another one ever happening again.</p>
<p>People who can take the responsibility to create the truly effective highly talented swat-team type task force would likely be:  The Mayor, DOT Commissioner, Health Department Commissioner.</p>
<p>All have proven themselves to be up to the task.</p>
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		<title>By: Car Free Nation</title>
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		<dc:creator>Car Free Nation</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Sep 2008 18:00:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These improvements, as I understand it, are fairly minimal, and do not in any way work to reduce the volume of traffic through the area. 

If you look at the plan, you&#039;ll see that the area is broken down into the following categories:
·  Travel Streets
·  Community Streets
·  Living Streets

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/brooklyn_3.pdf

God forbid if you live on or travel through a Travel Street, since...

&quot;All Travel Streets described here should be managed with the aim of optimizing their traffic performance, because acting as traffic conduits is their primary function. In many cases, traffic performance can be optimized through improvements to intersection operations; in some cases, improvements can also be achieved through rationalization of mid-block operations.&quot;

My guess is that just like the Adams Street &quot;Improvements&quot; to a Travel Street that contributed to the death of Alexander Toulouse, these will not result in an appreciable safer environment for anyone other than an automobile driver.

Perhaps these improvements are better than nothing, but until the DOT decides that even one death is too many and works to provide more car-free options through Downtown Brooklyn, I fear we will continue to have these tragedies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These improvements, as I understand it, are fairly minimal, and do not in any way work to reduce the volume of traffic through the area. </p>
<p>If you look at the plan, you'll see that the area is broken down into the following categories:<br />
·  Travel Streets<br />
·  Community Streets<br />
·  Living Streets</p>
<p><a href="http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/brooklyn_3.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://www.nyc.gov/html/dot/downloads/pdf/brooklyn_3.pdf</a></p>
<p>God forbid if you live on or travel through a Travel Street, since...</p>
<p>"All Travel Streets described here should be managed with the aim of optimizing their traffic performance, because acting as traffic conduits is their primary function. In many cases, traffic performance can be optimized through improvements to intersection operations; in some cases, improvements can also be achieved through rationalization of mid-block operations."</p>
<p>My guess is that just like the Adams Street "Improvements" to a Travel Street that contributed to the death of Alexander Toulouse, these will not result in an appreciable safer environment for anyone other than an automobile driver.</p>
<p>Perhaps these improvements are better than nothing, but until the DOT decides that even one death is too many and works to provide more car-free options through Downtown Brooklyn, I fear we will continue to have these tragedies.</p>
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