Comments on: Summer Streets: Bikes and Pedestrians Get Along Fine Without Cars http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 05:31:30 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: Clarence Eckerson Jr. http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-55020 Clarence Eckerson Jr. Wed, 13 Aug 2008 20:43:57 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-55020 Nicely put Petersen. See you Saturday! Nicely put Petersen. See you Saturday!

]]> By: Scott http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54960 Scott Wed, 13 Aug 2008 16:03:25 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54960 "It seems that bikes and pedestrians do just fine without cars." Right on, Jen. I had pretty much the same observation. From my NRDC blog post on Summer Streets: "Amazing how the conflict disappears when traffic of the four-wheeled variety is out of the picture, isn’t it?" More here: http://tinyurl.com/6mt5v9 "It seems that bikes and pedestrians do just fine without cars."

Right on, Jen. I had pretty much the same observation. From my NRDC blog post on Summer Streets: "Amazing how the conflict disappears when traffic of the four-wheeled variety is out of the picture, isn’t it?"

More here: http://tinyurl.com/6mt5v9

]]> By: Josh http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54958 Josh Wed, 13 Aug 2008 14:43:07 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54958 Great beard, Segway dude in picture #1! Great beard, Segway dude in picture #1!

]]> By: Angus Grieve-Smith http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54945 Angus Grieve-Smith Wed, 13 Aug 2008 02:53:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54945 <blockquote>We could talk and listen to each other. Without automobile engines idling, anxious drivers honking, and bus air brakes squealing, it was breathtakingly quiet. People on bikes, foot, rollerblades, skateboards, and ‘other’ wheels, could actually hear things, including each other.</blockquote> A friend mentioned that, but it didn't really hit home to me until today, when my son and I were walking on the Upper East Side. I couldn't hear what he was saying to me, and this was on one of those "quiet" tree-lined streets off of Park Avenue. In Woodside we do have streets where an adult and a child can have a conversation without shouting - not near the el, of course.

We could talk and listen to each other. Without automobile engines idling, anxious drivers honking, and bus air brakes squealing, it was breathtakingly quiet. People on bikes, foot, rollerblades, skateboards, and ‘other’ wheels, could actually hear things, including each other.

A friend mentioned that, but it didn't really hit home to me until today, when my son and I were walking on the Upper East Side. I couldn't hear what he was saying to me, and this was on one of those "quiet" tree-lined streets off of Park Avenue.

In Woodside we do have streets where an adult and a child can have a conversation without shouting - not near the el, of course.

]]> By: Michael Steiner http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54943 Michael Steiner Tue, 12 Aug 2008 23:36:04 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54943 The NY1 poll seems indeed to be gone. When i voted, it was also slightly tilted towards the ``no''. However, the way the question was phrased, i.e., ``will you go'', not ``do you like the idea'', it seemed to me actually exceptionally good to have an almost even result (in fact, the thought of close to 50% of NYers showing up would be almost frightening ... ;-) The NY1 poll seems indeed to be gone. When i voted, it was also slightly tilted towards the ``no''. However, the way the question was phrased, i.e., ``will you go'', not ``do you like the idea'', it seemed to me actually exceptionally good to have an almost even result (in fact, the thought of close to 50% of NYers showing up would be almost frightening ... ;-)

]]> By: Andy B from Jersey http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54937 Andy B from Jersey Tue, 12 Aug 2008 21:07:04 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54937 dchadwick, I think that poll is closed. I tried to vote on it and couldn't find a way to do so. If you got a link please forward! dchadwick,

I think that poll is closed. I tried to vote on it and couldn't find a way to do so. If you got a link please forward!

]]> By: Moocow http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54927 Moocow Tue, 12 Aug 2008 19:00:33 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54927 Very nicely said Jen. I agree with your statment about bike travel being "auto-reactive". I was there for nearly every minute of Summer Streets, I wish the New Yorkers who haven't experienced a traffic free avenue would try it. The resistance to change, the change away from fossil fuels AND car culture, is so disheartening. Very nicely said Jen. I agree with your statment about bike travel being "auto-reactive". I was there for nearly every minute of Summer Streets, I wish the New Yorkers who haven't experienced a traffic free avenue would try it. The resistance to change, the change away from fossil fuels AND car culture, is so disheartening.

]]> By: dchadwick http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54923 dchadwick Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:07:16 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54923 There's a NY1 poll on their (redesigned) home page, which asks "Will you take part in the Summer Streets program?" Responses are leaning strongly to "no", so Streetsbloggers should get in there and cast their votes. There's a NY1 poll on their (redesigned) home page, which asks "Will you take part in the Summer Streets program?" Responses are leaning strongly to "no", so Streetsbloggers should get in there and cast their votes.

]]> By: Dan! http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/comment-page-1/#comment-54920 Dan! Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:28:38 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/12/summer-streets-bikes-and-pedestrians-get-along-fine-without-cars/#comment-54920 It is hilarious how in the local newspapers and blogs here in seattle there is a low-grade ongoing war regarding the users of the (in)famous burk-gilman trail. The usual references to spandex-clad peacocks versus joggers versus dog-walkers versus casual riders and recumbants...how nice it would be, here in seattle, to have a park avenue day, a summer streets day - in short, for all of us "alternative transportation" folks to not have to fight over the 6-foot wide ribbon of asphalt. it looks like it was a beautiful day - It is hilarious how in the local newspapers and blogs here in seattle there is a low-grade ongoing war regarding the users of the (in)famous burk-gilman trail. The usual references to spandex-clad peacocks versus joggers versus dog-walkers versus casual riders and recumbants...how nice it would be, here in seattle, to have a park avenue day, a summer streets day - in short, for all of us "alternative transportation" folks to not have to fight over the 6-foot wide ribbon of asphalt.

it looks like it was a beautiful day -

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