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	<title>Comments on: Summer Streets: The Wait Is Over</title>
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		<title>By: Clarence Eckerson Jr.</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54942</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence Eckerson Jr.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 22:39:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Spud,

John could do all that stuff right off the side streets which are also closed for the most part.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Spud,</p>
<p>John could do all that stuff right off the side streets which are also closed for the most part.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud Spudly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54911</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud Spudly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Aug 2008 03:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;d have to get rid of the bikes first.</description>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54892</link>
		<dc:creator>John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ideas for the next summer streets this saturday:

Tug of war, fresbee, badminton, Jousting, 
archery, volleyball, pingpong, mini-golf,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ideas for the next summer streets this saturday:</p>
<p>Tug of war, fresbee, badminton, Jousting,<br />
archery, volleyball, pingpong, mini-golf,</p>
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		<title>By: Max Rockatansky</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54890</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Rockatansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:38:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nycosmomoplitan - sorry if I was a little defensive on the insurance issue. Honestly, the whole thing seems absolutely ridiculous to me.  Bikes are far less dangerous than cars, so scaling the risk appropriately it would hardly seem worth the effort to insure people. And what about folks who couldn&#039;t afford the insurance even at a relatively low cost? Remember, even a .25 cent increase on subway fares are a hardship to some people and a bike is one of the cheapest transportation options available. Would there be police enforcement? Fines? Jail?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nycosmomoplitan - sorry if I was a little defensive on the insurance issue. Honestly, the whole thing seems absolutely ridiculous to me.  Bikes are far less dangerous than cars, so scaling the risk appropriately it would hardly seem worth the effort to insure people. And what about folks who couldn't afford the insurance even at a relatively low cost? Remember, even a .25 cent increase on subway fares are a hardship to some people and a bike is one of the cheapest transportation options available. Would there be police enforcement? Fines? Jail?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54889</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 18:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I&#039;m left wondering whether adults who cycle without helmets are more likely to oppose cyclist insurance.&quot;

That has nothing to do with it.  Helmets slighly reduce the chance of someone cracking open their own heads.  

Auto insurance doesn&#039;t cover a person&#039;s injuries to themself.  It covers injuries to others, or their property, or one&#039;s own vehicle.

Bicycles are too cheap to be worth insuring separately from homeowner&#039;s insurance, and do too little damage too infrequently to others to be worth insuring for liability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"I'm left wondering whether adults who cycle without helmets are more likely to oppose cyclist insurance."</p>
<p>That has nothing to do with it.  Helmets slighly reduce the chance of someone cracking open their own heads.  </p>
<p>Auto insurance doesn't cover a person's injuries to themself.  It covers injuries to others, or their property, or one's own vehicle.</p>
<p>Bicycles are too cheap to be worth insuring separately from homeowner's insurance, and do too little damage too infrequently to others to be worth insuring for liability.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54883</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:13:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#35 Ian Turner,  Check it out.  It is true.  In case a workmen or someone gets hurt in your apartment.  Call AllState.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#35 Ian Turner,  Check it out.  It is true.  In case a workmen or someone gets hurt in your apartment.  Call AllState.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Turner</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54881</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Turner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gecko,

I&#039;ve never heard of renter&#039;s insurance that included any kind of liability protection.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gecko,</p>
<p>I've never heard of renter's insurance that included any kind of liability protection.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54880</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 17:02:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#31 Larry Littlefield,  Bicycle insurance might even be redundant for those people that have apartment insurance which comes with considerable property and liability protection -- hundreds of thousands of dollars worth -- for under $200.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#31 Larry Littlefield,  Bicycle insurance might even be redundant for those people that have apartment insurance which comes with considerable property and liability protection -- hundreds of thousands of dollars worth -- for under $200.</p>
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		<title>By: Nycosmomoplitan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54864</link>
		<dc:creator>Nycosmomoplitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 15:07:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m left wondering whether adults who cycle without helmets are more likely to oppose cyclist insurance and whether advocacy for cyclist insurance could help to relax anti-cyclist lobbying from the insurance industry?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm left wondering whether adults who cycle without helmets are more likely to oppose cyclist insurance and whether advocacy for cyclist insurance could help to relax anti-cyclist lobbying from the insurance industry?</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54861</link>
		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:41:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As for the relative dangers of various street transportation, it is a matter for actuarial calculation, not subjective speculation. But it is unlikely that bike liability insurance would cost as much as auto insurance.&quot;

Depends on how you measure it.  My view is it would cost vastly more.  An auto insurance company might charge $1,200 for a liability policy expecting to pay out $1,100.  That leaves $100 for administration and profit.

For a bicycle, with an expected payout of $5, it would charge $105.

Some things are not worth insuring.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"As for the relative dangers of various street transportation, it is a matter for actuarial calculation, not subjective speculation. But it is unlikely that bike liability insurance would cost as much as auto insurance."</p>
<p>Depends on how you measure it.  My view is it would cost vastly more.  An auto insurance company might charge $1,200 for a liability policy expecting to pay out $1,100.  That leaves $100 for administration and profit.</p>
<p>For a bicycle, with an expected payout of $5, it would charge $105.</p>
<p>Some things are not worth insuring.</p>
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		<title>By: Nycosmomoplitan</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54860</link>
		<dc:creator>Nycosmomoplitan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:37:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;the rest of the suggestions are just rants from bitter drivers (license, insurance, etc.)&quot;

Honestly, I&#039;m trying to assess the liability from all sides. Should a pedestrian struck by a bicyclist with bad brakes be responsible for the emergency room examination? Would the risk of losing one&#039;s insurance or license help to curb bad riding habits (like running lights)?

As for the relative dangers of various street transportation, it is a matter for actuarial calculation, not subjective speculation. But it is unlikely that bike liability insurance would cost as much as auto insurance.

btw -- In-school bicycle training programs with resources comparable to motor training is a terrific idea!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"the rest of the suggestions are just rants from bitter drivers (license, insurance, etc.)"</p>
<p>Honestly, I'm trying to assess the liability from all sides. Should a pedestrian struck by a bicyclist with bad brakes be responsible for the emergency room examination? Would the risk of losing one's insurance or license help to curb bad riding habits (like running lights)?</p>
<p>As for the relative dangers of various street transportation, it is a matter for actuarial calculation, not subjective speculation. But it is unlikely that bike liability insurance would cost as much as auto insurance.</p>
<p>btw -- In-school bicycle training programs with resources comparable to motor training is a terrific idea!</p>
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		<title>By: Max Rockatansky</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54859</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Rockatansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great time - I think the whole event worked as well as could be expected. Good turnout, the weather was fantastic, and gave everyone a vision of what the future could be. I think the people who are upset about too many bikes, inconsiderate pedestrians, etc. have an obvious agenda or prejudice. I saw people sharing the road and being pretty considerate overall. 

Trainging cyclists is a great idea - perhaps that would be a good addition to future Summer Streets events. Building out the bike infrastructure will help ease some road sharing issues, the rest of the suggestions are just rants from bitter drivers (license, insurance, etc.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great time - I think the whole event worked as well as could be expected. Good turnout, the weather was fantastic, and gave everyone a vision of what the future could be. I think the people who are upset about too many bikes, inconsiderate pedestrians, etc. have an obvious agenda or prejudice. I saw people sharing the road and being pretty considerate overall. </p>
<p>Trainging cyclists is a great idea - perhaps that would be a good addition to future Summer Streets events. Building out the bike infrastructure will help ease some road sharing issues, the rest of the suggestions are just rants from bitter drivers (license, insurance, etc.)</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 14:08:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A stunning success! Here are some of my comments from the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/sets/72157606651909645/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;photos I took of the event:&lt;/a&gt;

On ordinary Saturday mornings, this swath of public land is reserved for a relatively small number of motorists.  On August 9, the city recognized the potential for streets as open public spaces and closed Park Avenue to motor vehicle traffic.  Motor vehicles still held exclusive sway on the other 11 avenues (and two shoreline expressways), but  Park Avenue was reserved for the people.  My guess is that more people used this roadway by foot and bicycle this day than would have by car on a typical Saturday morning.  More importantly, they enjoyed it in a novel way that promotes public health and enriches civil culture.  

Without question, this unprecedented 6-mile street closure was a huge success.  &lt;i&gt;&lt;b&gt;MAKE IT PERMAMENT!&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/b&gt;

One of the most appealing aspects of Summer Streets was the flow and mix of people.  It wasn&#039;t congested and overcrowded like a street fair.  And there weren&#039;t large groups of people moving through together.  It was a nice uncrowded and leisurely mix of pedestrians, bicyclists and skaters.  People bunched up at the major cross streets where the traffic signals were in effect, but then spread out again.  The conflicts between pedestrians and bicyclists are few when the 90%+ of the space usually reserved for cars is available.

I&#039;d say several thousand cyclists toured the Summer Streets route.  Perhaps DoT has estimates?  I&#039;d especially like to know whether the number of people using the roadway this Saturday morning was greater than the number of people that motor on this route on a typical Saturday morning.  If so, is there any possible justification for not making Summer Streets permanent?

We didn&#039;t find the official stations very interesting, but after the cars were let back on Park we rode over to West 55th where the Alvin Ailey was giving an interactive dance and drumming performance. The performance was great, but it was held in the middle of a traditional street fair, complete with tube socks and sausage-and-pepper-heros.  It was overcrowded and stressful.  The ambience (if not the dance) was better over on Park, by far.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A stunning success! Here are some of my comments from the <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/bicyclesonly/sets/72157606651909645/" rel="nofollow">photos I took of the event:</a></p>
<p>On ordinary Saturday mornings, this swath of public land is reserved for a relatively small number of motorists.  On August 9, the city recognized the potential for streets as open public spaces and closed Park Avenue to motor vehicle traffic.  Motor vehicles still held exclusive sway on the other 11 avenues (and two shoreline expressways), but  Park Avenue was reserved for the people.  My guess is that more people used this roadway by foot and bicycle this day than would have by car on a typical Saturday morning.  More importantly, they enjoyed it in a novel way that promotes public health and enriches civil culture.  </p>
<p>Without question, this unprecedented 6-mile street closure was a huge success.  <i><b>MAKE IT PERMAMENT!</b></i></p>
<p>One of the most appealing aspects of Summer Streets was the flow and mix of people.  It wasn't congested and overcrowded like a street fair.  And there weren't large groups of people moving through together.  It was a nice uncrowded and leisurely mix of pedestrians, bicyclists and skaters.  People bunched up at the major cross streets where the traffic signals were in effect, but then spread out again.  The conflicts between pedestrians and bicyclists are few when the 90%+ of the space usually reserved for cars is available.</p>
<p>I'd say several thousand cyclists toured the Summer Streets route.  Perhaps DoT has estimates?  I'd especially like to know whether the number of people using the roadway this Saturday morning was greater than the number of people that motor on this route on a typical Saturday morning.  If so, is there any possible justification for not making Summer Streets permanent?</p>
<p>We didn't find the official stations very interesting, but after the cars were let back on Park we rode over to West 55th where the Alvin Ailey was giving an interactive dance and drumming performance. The performance was great, but it was held in the middle of a traditional street fair, complete with tube socks and sausage-and-pepper-heros.  It was overcrowded and stressful.  The ambience (if not the dance) was better over on Park, by far.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But, to be realistic, The Terminator would have won out in the crash if he saw the SUV coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But, to be realistic, The Terminator would have won out in the crash if he saw the SUV coming.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only are cars more dangerous than guns, they are more dangerous than The Terminator if you watched the television series &quot;Sarah Connors&quot; last night when she used an SUV to flatten a terminator series robot (temporarily) who was firing a barage of bullets at her son John Connors.

Zoom, zoom, zoom!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only are cars more dangerous than guns, they are more dangerous than The Terminator if you watched the television series "Sarah Connors" last night when she used an SUV to flatten a terminator series robot (temporarily) who was firing a barage of bullets at her son John Connors.</p>
<p>Zoom, zoom, zoom!</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:03:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;If bicyclists are to use NYC streets more fully, I think they should also be trained, licensed, and insured.&quot;

Trained, certainly.  

If they started formal training programs for on-street riding in the public schools, the way a whole publicly supported infrastructure was created to encourage driving (I took driver&#039;s ed in high school), then there would be many more people choosing to ride on the streets.

Licensed maybe.

This could also encourage more riding, but could also discourage it.

Insured certainly not.

It is one hell of a lot harder to kill people or destroy property with a bicycle than it is with a car.  We don&#039;t require licenses and insurance for rowboats, strollers, or supermarket granny carts either.

Motor vehicles require licensing and insurance because they are dangerous.

&quot;Their vehicles should be registered and inspected for safety.&quot;

The most unsafe bicycle is extremely unlikely to injure anyone other than the user.  When did you last hear about a bicycle pedel sticking and sending the bicycle through a storefront window, killing and injuring multiple pedestrians?

&quot;Their parking should be regulated.&quot;

At some time after enough parking on public land (ie. streets) is shifted from motor vehicles to bicycles so there actually is a place to park.  I suggest starting by extending the sidewalks within 15 feet of the corner and putting bike racks there, which would also reduce motor vehicle accidents to due improved visibility.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"If bicyclists are to use NYC streets more fully, I think they should also be trained, licensed, and insured."</p>
<p>Trained, certainly.  </p>
<p>If they started formal training programs for on-street riding in the public schools, the way a whole publicly supported infrastructure was created to encourage driving (I took driver's ed in high school), then there would be many more people choosing to ride on the streets.</p>
<p>Licensed maybe.</p>
<p>This could also encourage more riding, but could also discourage it.</p>
<p>Insured certainly not.</p>
<p>It is one hell of a lot harder to kill people or destroy property with a bicycle than it is with a car.  We don't require licenses and insurance for rowboats, strollers, or supermarket granny carts either.</p>
<p>Motor vehicles require licensing and insurance because they are dangerous.</p>
<p>"Their vehicles should be registered and inspected for safety."</p>
<p>The most unsafe bicycle is extremely unlikely to injure anyone other than the user.  When did you last hear about a bicycle pedel sticking and sending the bicycle through a storefront window, killing and injuring multiple pedestrians?</p>
<p>"Their parking should be regulated."</p>
<p>At some time after enough parking on public land (ie. streets) is shifted from motor vehicles to bicycles so there actually is a place to park.  I suggest starting by extending the sidewalks within 15 feet of the corner and putting bike racks there, which would also reduce motor vehicle accidents to due improved visibility.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
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		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Aug 2008 11:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coming back downtown on 5th Avenue from 51st and Park after Summer Streets had ended required a change of mind.  

It was still a beautiful day and the euphoria remained, but the awareness had to prevail that an accident with any of the cars, trucks, and buses that surrounded me could cause grave injury and was potentially lethal.

That we had it; that it was a tremendous success:  New York Ciclovia elicits a kind of drug-free health-kick be-in 60s-style optimism that will hopefully morph into one of the driving engines of a utopian-seeking future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coming back downtown on 5th Avenue from 51st and Park after Summer Streets had ended required a change of mind.  </p>
<p>It was still a beautiful day and the euphoria remained, but the awareness had to prevail that an accident with any of the cars, trucks, and buses that surrounded me could cause grave injury and was potentially lethal.</p>
<p>That we had it; that it was a tremendous success:  New York Ciclovia elicits a kind of drug-free health-kick be-in 60s-style optimism that will hopefully morph into one of the driving engines of a utopian-seeking future.</p>
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		<title>By: Urbanis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Urbanis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I want to comment on another dimension of Summer Streets that no one has yet mentioned: building community and making new friends. It was lovely to ride on Park Avenue and enjoy the grandeur of Manhattan without the noise, pollution, and danger of autombile traffic, but what most touched me was how many people I connected with that morning, both complete strangers and old friends. Indeed, every time I stopped, I met someone new. People were fascinated by my folding bike, and in one case, our conversation led to exchanging numbers and making plans to get together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I want to comment on another dimension of Summer Streets that no one has yet mentioned: building community and making new friends. It was lovely to ride on Park Avenue and enjoy the grandeur of Manhattan without the noise, pollution, and danger of autombile traffic, but what most touched me was how many people I connected with that morning, both complete strangers and old friends. Indeed, every time I stopped, I met someone new. People were fascinated by my folding bike, and in one case, our conversation led to exchanging numbers and making plans to get together.</p>
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		<title>By: Urbanis</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54847</link>
		<dc:creator>Urbanis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 21:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m still glowing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm still glowing.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/08/summer-streets-the-wait-is-over/comment-page-1/#comment-54846</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Aug 2008 20:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;In a related matter, if bicyclists are to use NYC streets more fully, I think they should also be trained, licensed, and insured; their vehicles should be registered and inspected for safety; their parking should be regulated; and any violation of the above, or traffic rules, should penalized as rigorously as they are for motorists.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I don&#039;t know who&#039;s pushing this idea, but I will be &lt;i&gt;so&lt;/i&gt; happy when it dies a well-deserved death.  You know what?  I think that motorists should be trained, licensed and insured, because they sure don&#039;t act like it now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>In a related matter, if bicyclists are to use NYC streets more fully, I think they should also be trained, licensed, and insured; their vehicles should be registered and inspected for safety; their parking should be regulated; and any violation of the above, or traffic rules, should penalized as rigorously as they are for motorists.</p></blockquote>
<p>I don't know who's pushing this idea, but I will be <i>so</i> happy when it dies a well-deserved death.  You know what?  I think that motorists should be trained, licensed and insured, because they sure don't act like it now.</p>
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