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	<title>Comments on: Cartoon Tuesday: Chutes and Ladders, State DOT Style</title>
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	<description>Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance</description>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/08/05/cartoon-tuesday-chutes-and-ladders-state-dot-style/comment-page-1/#comment-54684</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 13:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ulrich&#039;s &quot;Product Design and Development&quot; seems to be the 101 standard for product design and most likely nosing around MIT&#039;s tremendous Opencourseware eduational resource it should be possible to elicit the correct way for developing transit projects.

A simple general diagram can be found at: http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Engineering-Systems-Division/ESD-36JFall-2003/CourseHome/index.htm

Some of the graduate courses on this page should be a good place to start: http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Civil-and-Environmental-Engineering/index.htm

. . . but, a certain amount of common sense should prevail!

The NYS diagram is an embarrassment like much of transportation and especially transit practice.  

Years ago computer systems of many of the large corporate and other institutions were dog slow because the network engineers did not know what they were doing and or the computer network systems were designed and implemented very badly quite similar to transportation and transit practice today and the so-called &quot;prevailing conventional wisdom&quot; of how people should travel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ulrich's "Product Design and Development" seems to be the 101 standard for product design and most likely nosing around MIT's tremendous Opencourseware eduational resource it should be possible to elicit the correct way for developing transit projects.</p>
<p>A simple general diagram can be found at: <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Engineering-Systems-Division/ESD-36JFall-2003/CourseHome/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Engineering-Systems-Division/ESD-36JFall-2003/CourseHome/index.htm</a></p>
<p>Some of the graduate courses on this page should be a good place to start: <a href="http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Civil-and-Environmental-Engineering/index.htm" rel="nofollow">http://ocw.mit.edu/OcwWeb/Civil-and-Environmental-Engineering/index.htm</a></p>
<p>. . . but, a certain amount of common sense should prevail!</p>
<p>The NYS diagram is an embarrassment like much of transportation and especially transit practice.  </p>
<p>Years ago computer systems of many of the large corporate and other institutions were dog slow because the network engineers did not know what they were doing and or the computer network systems were designed and implemented very badly quite similar to transportation and transit practice today and the so-called "prevailing conventional wisdom" of how people should travel.</p>
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		<title>By: Fair Trade</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fair Trade</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 22:04:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It might be convoluted but I suspect that any government department in the UK wouldn&#039;t have a clue what the process would be here.
The truth might not be pretty but at least you can see it; would that we could here in the UK...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It might be convoluted but I suspect that any government department in the UK wouldn't have a clue what the process would be here.<br />
The truth might not be pretty but at least you can see it; would that we could here in the UK...</p>
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		<title>By: Susan Donovan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Susan Donovan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 20:27:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When I think about all of the messed up intersections in his city that aren&#039;t very safe, looking at this just makes me want to cry. So many of the arrows just go in circles.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When I think about all of the messed up intersections in his city that aren't very safe, looking at this just makes me want to cry. So many of the arrows just go in circles.</p>
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