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	<title>Comments on: DOT Takes Steps to Improve Ped Safety Near Park Avenue Tunnel</title>
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		<title>By: cw</title>
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		<dc:creator>cw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i actually called 911 for you that night.  i was walking right behind you at the intersection and it was the most horrific thing i ever saw.  i thought you had probably died.  im certain it was you, probably feb 11th 2006, you were with a girl who i thought had an english accent screaming the name steve.  i literally was just googling this out of curiousity about the night to see if it was recorded anywhere.  very happy to know you survived, because i literally thought there was no chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i actually called 911 for you that night.  i was walking right behind you at the intersection and it was the most horrific thing i ever saw.  i thought you had probably died.  im certain it was you, probably feb 11th 2006, you were with a girl who i thought had an english accent screaming the name steve.  i literally was just googling this out of curiousity about the night to see if it was recorded anywhere.  very happy to know you survived, because i literally thought there was no chance.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 21:49:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TA did a study some years back which found that half of pedestrians crossing at 50th and 49th streets and 5th were going around the barricades. The DOT&#039;s much maligned ThruStreets (no peak hour turning scheme) made the barriers even more questionable. The x-walk barriers/setback x-walks are a failure. They are one of the few street designs in London that NYC should avoid. Anyone that worried about losing street capacity should by lobbying hard for DOT&#039;s peak hour meter program. By cutting down on double parking and cruising that will do more to speed traffic along than detouring pedestrians to Siberia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TA did a study some years back which found that half of pedestrians crossing at 50th and 49th streets and 5th were going around the barricades. The DOT&#8217;s much maligned ThruStreets (no peak hour turning scheme) made the barriers even more questionable. The x-walk barriers/setback x-walks are a failure. They are one of the few street designs in London that NYC should avoid. Anyone that worried about losing street capacity should by lobbying hard for DOT&#8217;s peak hour meter program. By cutting down on double parking and cruising that will do more to speed traffic along than detouring pedestrians to Siberia.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud Spudly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Spud Spudly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:48:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bloomberg doesn&#039;t &quot;put up with it,&quot; he encourages it.  Perhaps even requires it.  So go ahead and write.

I&#039;ve done and experienced all those things you mentioned.  I hate those damned pedestrian barriers that make you walk to the middle of the block to cross the street.  Anyone walking in a straight path east or west has to go almost a full block out of their way (to the crosswalk and back) just so some cars can turn the corner more easily.  Great.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bloomberg doesn&#8217;t &#8220;put up with it,&#8221; he encourages it.  Perhaps even requires it.  So go ahead and write.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve done and experienced all those things you mentioned.  I hate those damned pedestrian barriers that make you walk to the middle of the block to cross the street.  Anyone walking in a straight path east or west has to go almost a full block out of their way (to the crosswalk and back) just so some cars can turn the corner more easily.  Great.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 16:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I sometimes think that people here think the city can survive on bikes and public transit alone. Idealists and anti-car types don&#039;t see that there are reasonable solutions to the traffic nightmare that NY has become.&quot;

This is a straw-man argument (and why do bicycles keep coming up?) but I will say that the city could do very well with just public transportation, human powered vehicles, and trucks (we don&#039;t have the infrastructure to forgo commercial trucks). I would even describe that scenario as &quot;ideal&quot;, but still, it&#039;s got nothing to do with &lt;i&gt;DOT Takes Steps to Improve Ped Safety Near Park Avenue Tunnel&lt;/i&gt;. Those other reasonable solutions you mention are great, and so is this one. Our transportation problems are big enough to require lots of solutions, and those that can be implemented without approval from Albany are particularly handy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I sometimes think that people here think the city can survive on bikes and public transit alone. Idealists and anti-car types don&#8217;t see that there are reasonable solutions to the traffic nightmare that NY has become.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a straw-man argument (and why do bicycles keep coming up?) but I will say that the city could do very well with just public transportation, human powered vehicles, and trucks (we don&#8217;t have the infrastructure to forgo commercial trucks). I would even describe that scenario as &#8220;ideal&#8221;, but still, it&#8217;s got nothing to do with <i>DOT Takes Steps to Improve Ped Safety Near Park Avenue Tunnel</i>. Those other reasonable solutions you mention are great, and so is this one. Our transportation problems are big enough to require lots of solutions, and those that can be implemented without approval from Albany are particularly handy.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 04:47:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How many of you idealists have ever walked through midtown where the Giuliani-era barricades are there to restrict pedestrian crossings? One solution is to forbid pedestrians from crossing at 33rd and Park and force them to walk to 34th or 32nd to cross safely (or mid-block 32-33) with fewer collisions and less traffic mayhem as a result.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
I&#039;ve walked around those barricades plenty of times.  You call that a solution?  That&#039;s like curing a brain tumor with a rifle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How many of you idealists have ever walked through midtown where the Giuliani-era barricades are there to restrict pedestrian crossings? One solution is to forbid pedestrians from crossing at 33rd and Park and force them to walk to 34th or 32nd to cross safely (or mid-block 32-33) with fewer collisions and less traffic mayhem as a result.</p></blockquote>
<p>I&#8217;ve walked around those barricades plenty of times.  You call that a solution?  That&#8217;s like curing a brain tumor with a rifle.</p>
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		<title>By: Davis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Davis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:48:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Removing traffic lanes from inner Manhattan without restricting traffic flow into Manhattan is irresponsible since it will only make traffic worse&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Dave, 

Capacity reduction is one of the most powerful and effective tools that the mayor has fully at his disposal. There many examples of cities successfully removing lanes of traffic without creating more congestion. Here is a great piece of research on the subject:

http://www.contextsensitivesolutions.org/content/reading/disappearing-traffic/

Reallocating roadspace from general traffic, to improve conditions for pedestrians or cyclists or buses or on-street light rail or other high-occupancy vehicles, is often predicted to cause major traffic problems on neighbouring streets. This paper reports on two phases of research, resulting in the examination of over 70 case studies of roadspace reallocation from eleven countries, and the collation of opinions from over 200 transport professionals worldwide. The findings suggest that predictions of traffic problems are often unnecessarily alarmist, and that, given appropriate local circumstances, significant reductions in overall traffic levels can occur, with people making a far wider range of behavioural responses than has traditionally been assumed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Removing traffic lanes from inner Manhattan without restricting traffic flow into Manhattan is irresponsible since it will only make traffic worse</p></blockquote>
<p>Dave, </p>
<p>Capacity reduction is one of the most powerful and effective tools that the mayor has fully at his disposal. There many examples of cities successfully removing lanes of traffic without creating more congestion. Here is a great piece of research on the subject:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.contextsensitivesolutions.org/content/reading/disappearing-traffic/" rel="nofollow">http://www.contextsensitivesolutions.org/content/reading/disappearing-traffic/</a></p>
<p>Reallocating roadspace from general traffic, to improve conditions for pedestrians or cyclists or buses or on-street light rail or other high-occupancy vehicles, is often predicted to cause major traffic problems on neighbouring streets. This paper reports on two phases of research, resulting in the examination of over 70 case studies of roadspace reallocation from eleven countries, and the collation of opinions from over 200 transport professionals worldwide. The findings suggest that predictions of traffic problems are often unnecessarily alarmist, and that, given appropriate local circumstances, significant reductions in overall traffic levels can occur, with people making a far wider range of behavioural responses than has traditionally been assumed.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you Robert for your word of support; I sometimes think that people here think the city can survive on bikes and public transit alone.  Idealists and anti-car types don&#039;t see that there are reasonable solutions to the traffic nightmare that NY has become.  

Removing traffic lanes from inner Manhattan without restricting traffic flow into Manhattan is irresponsible since it will only make traffic worse and we will all pay for it via slower emergency response times, more horn honking and eventually higher delivery costs.

Stop people from driving into Manhattan by restricting placards, reduce free parking through permits and toll every bridge into Manhattan to make driving into Manhattan at least as costly as taking the subway.  And CP is  a no-brainer...Shelly time for you to follow Joe if you don&#039;t see that light.

How many of you attacking me has ever driven through the Park Avenue tunnel and realize how it smoothes traffic between midtown and downtown?   How may of you has actually ever driven in Manhattan or been kept up all night by honking horns?  

How many of you idealists have ever walked through midtown where the Giuliani-era barricades are there to restrict pedestrian crossings?  One solution is to forbid pedestrians from crossing at 33rd and Park and force them to walk to 34th or 32nd to cross safely (or mid-block 32-33) with fewer collisions and less traffic mayhem as a result. 

Reducing traffic lanes willy-nilly is stupidity and I am surprised that Bloomberg puts up with it.  Time for another letter from me to him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Robert for your word of support; I sometimes think that people here think the city can survive on bikes and public transit alone.  Idealists and anti-car types don&#8217;t see that there are reasonable solutions to the traffic nightmare that NY has become.  </p>
<p>Removing traffic lanes from inner Manhattan without restricting traffic flow into Manhattan is irresponsible since it will only make traffic worse and we will all pay for it via slower emergency response times, more horn honking and eventually higher delivery costs.</p>
<p>Stop people from driving into Manhattan by restricting placards, reduce free parking through permits and toll every bridge into Manhattan to make driving into Manhattan at least as costly as taking the subway.  And CP is  a no-brainer&#8230;Shelly time for you to follow Joe if you don&#8217;t see that light.</p>
<p>How many of you attacking me has ever driven through the Park Avenue tunnel and realize how it smoothes traffic between midtown and downtown?   How may of you has actually ever driven in Manhattan or been kept up all night by honking horns?  </p>
<p>How many of you idealists have ever walked through midtown where the Giuliani-era barricades are there to restrict pedestrian crossings?  One solution is to forbid pedestrians from crossing at 33rd and Park and force them to walk to 34th or 32nd to cross safely (or mid-block 32-33) with fewer collisions and less traffic mayhem as a result. </p>
<p>Reducing traffic lanes willy-nilly is stupidity and I am surprised that Bloomberg puts up with it.  Time for another letter from me to him.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On Hypocrisy: it is only relevant when making moral pronouncements. To say that less of something would be better for the city is different from preaching that we should all just stop doing that something. Livable streets advocacy has moved beyond the preachy environmentalism of the last century primarily because, well, look at the results. But also because nobody&#039;s perfect and hypocrites are not persuasive. Arguments can and should be based on ethics, but policy must recognize that people will act in their own interest with little regard for others. (So, we arrange for ethical behavior be in their immediate interest.) That some people here endorse policies &lt;i&gt;that will cost them money or time&lt;/i&gt; shows how much they believe in the wider benefits of those policies. Rather than undermining credibility, it enhances it by eliminating the selfish factor. (But still, dude, ditch the car! She&#039;s not worth it.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On Hypocrisy: it is only relevant when making moral pronouncements. To say that less of something would be better for the city is different from preaching that we should all just stop doing that something. Livable streets advocacy has moved beyond the preachy environmentalism of the last century primarily because, well, look at the results. But also because nobody&#8217;s perfect and hypocrites are not persuasive. Arguments can and should be based on ethics, but policy must recognize that people will act in their own interest with little regard for others. (So, we arrange for ethical behavior be in their immediate interest.) That some people here endorse policies <i>that will cost them money or time</i> shows how much they believe in the wider benefits of those policies. Rather than undermining credibility, it enhances it by eliminating the selfish factor. (But still, dude, ditch the car! She&#8217;s not worth it.)</p>
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		<title>By: Larry Littlefield</title>
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		<dc:creator>Larry Littlefield</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 18:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure it makes sense to close the tunnel in one direction but not the other, though there are certainly plenty of conflicts at that intersection.  It&#039;s like a bypass for drivers from the 59th Street bridge area going south, and from the Midtown Tunnel going to the north.

If the trial is succesful, perhaps they ought to consider closing northbound too, and just turning it over to bicycles along with the roadway around GCT.  But a one-way closing I don&#039;t get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure it makes sense to close the tunnel in one direction but not the other, though there are certainly plenty of conflicts at that intersection.  It&#8217;s like a bypass for drivers from the 59th Street bridge area going south, and from the Midtown Tunnel going to the north.</p>
<p>If the trial is succesful, perhaps they ought to consider closing northbound too, and just turning it over to bicycles along with the roadway around GCT.  But a one-way closing I don&#8217;t get.</p>
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		<title>By: m-o</title>
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		<dc:creator>m-o</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But Robert, one hundred years of making New York City car friendly has been unnecessarily bad for EVERYBODY. So...


Besides I really don&#039;t agree with you. 9th ave is a better street with the cycletrack and the 14th street redesign. The intersection of 23rd street, 5th ave, and broadway is going to be far superior for busses and cars.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But Robert, one hundred years of making New York City car friendly has been unnecessarily bad for EVERYBODY. So&#8230;</p>
<p>Besides I really don&#8217;t agree with you. 9th ave is a better street with the cycletrack and the 14th street redesign. The intersection of 23rd street, 5th ave, and broadway is going to be far superior for busses and cars.</p>
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		<title>By: Moocow</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moocow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:30:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How can I tell the difference between a driver who is &quot;pissed off&quot; due to a &quot;removed route&quot; of travel, and say, anyone else driving a car sitting in traffic on NYC streets?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How can I tell the difference between a driver who is &#8220;pissed off&#8221; due to a &#8220;removed route&#8221; of travel, and say, anyone else driving a car sitting in traffic on NYC streets?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 17:13:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To be fair to dave, I think it is true that many of the latest attempts to make New York bike friendly have been almost unnecessarily bad for cars. We forget that while slowing down car traffic can be good, removing entire routes from availability to cars pisses drivers off, which is good for no one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To be fair to dave, I think it is true that many of the latest attempts to make New York bike friendly have been almost unnecessarily bad for cars. We forget that while slowing down car traffic can be good, removing entire routes from availability to cars pisses drivers off, which is good for no one.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 15:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to be fair, sean, ian&#039;s statement was missing a preposition.  it&#039;s unclear whether he meant &quot;with fewer cars in ownership/existence&quot; or &quot;with fewer cars operating on the streets at any given time.&quot;  owning a care and using it rarely and at off-peak times isn&#039;t quite as hypocritical as being a motoring enthusiast while lobbying for &quot;fewer cars&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to be fair, sean, ian&#8217;s statement was missing a preposition.  it&#8217;s unclear whether he meant &#8220;with fewer cars in ownership/existence&#8221; or &#8220;with fewer cars operating on the streets at any given time.&#8221;  owning a care and using it rarely and at off-peak times isn&#8217;t quite as hypocritical as being a motoring enthusiast while lobbying for &#8220;fewer cars&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean Sweeney</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean Sweeney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ian D states, &quot;New York will be a much better place to live and more efficient place to conduct business with fewer cars.&quot;


Quite a statement from someone who has a car - and drives and parks it on New York City streets!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian D states, &#8220;New York will be a much better place to live and more efficient place to conduct business with fewer cars.&#8221;</p>
<p>Quite a statement from someone who has a car &#8211; and drives and parks it on New York City streets!</p>
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		<title>By: SteveT</title>
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		<dc:creator>SteveT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:43:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was hit by a taxi that jumped a red light at this junction in Feb 2006 - seriously injured with back/neck/head injuries. This is a badly laid out, badly signposted and badly lit junction - anything that can be done to improve it is surely welcomed.

Steve
England August 2008</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was hit by a taxi that jumped a red light at this junction in Feb 2006 &#8211; seriously injured with back/neck/head injuries. This is a badly laid out, badly signposted and badly lit junction &#8211; anything that can be done to improve it is surely welcomed.</p>
<p>Steve<br />
England August 2008</p>
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		<title>By: Lola</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lola</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 06:33:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m speechless. I didn&#039;t think I would live to see this despairingly dangerous and nasty intersection become even marginally safer for peds and cyclists. 

I mean that literally. I live in the area and I can&#039;t step outside my door without being terrorized by speeding drivers. I was thinking about moving out.

Anything the city does to slow drivers down here, or discourage people from driving, will vastly improve quality of life for thousands of local residents, workers, and students, not to mention tourists. 

Looking forward to seeing fewer cars on 34th St. as well.

Thank you, DOT. Bless you all!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m speechless. I didn&#8217;t think I would live to see this despairingly dangerous and nasty intersection become even marginally safer for peds and cyclists. </p>
<p>I mean that literally. I live in the area and I can&#8217;t step outside my door without being terrorized by speeding drivers. I was thinking about moving out.</p>
<p>Anything the city does to slow drivers down here, or discourage people from driving, will vastly improve quality of life for thousands of local residents, workers, and students, not to mention tourists. </p>
<p>Looking forward to seeing fewer cars on 34th St. as well.</p>
<p>Thank you, DOT. Bless you all!</p>
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		<title>By: Bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 01:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not to mention, nobody would use it - everyone would just jay-walk anyway.  It&#039;s pure fantasy to think people would use a pedestrian bridge to cross a typical NYC street on a daily basis.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not to mention, nobody would use it &#8211; everyone would just jay-walk anyway.  It&#8217;s pure fantasy to think people would use a pedestrian bridge to cross a typical NYC street on a daily basis.</p>
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		<title>By: Angus Grieve-Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angus Grieve-Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 00:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pedestrian bridges are for highways.  There&#039;s one in Harriman State Park that does an admirable job of bringing a trail across the Thruway.

Pedestrian bridges are not a solution for city streets.  A pedestrian bridge across Park Avenue would be a band-aid that does nothing to fix the underlying problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pedestrian bridges are for highways.  There&#8217;s one in Harriman State Park that does an admirable job of bringing a trail across the Thruway.</p>
<p>Pedestrian bridges are not a solution for city streets.  A pedestrian bridge across Park Avenue would be a band-aid that does nothing to fix the underlying problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Anal_yst</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anal_yst</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 23:48:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heaven forbid they just put a damn pedestrian bridge there.  Problem, meet solution.

I&#039;d like to see less people driving in the city (especially those who don&#039;t really NEED to), but this is not the way to do it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heaven forbid they just put a damn pedestrian bridge there.  Problem, meet solution.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to see less people driving in the city (especially those who don&#8217;t really NEED to), but this is not the way to do it.</p>
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		<title>By: bob</title>
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		<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>fair trade - the city has done multiple things there over the years.  i&#039;m pretty sure the city press release says that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>fair trade &#8211; the city has done multiple things there over the years.  i&#8217;m pretty sure the city press release says that.</p>
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