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	<title>Comments on: You Can Drive Over a Child, But Don&#8217;t Drive Away After</title>
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		<title>By: Peter Jacobsen</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/07/02/you-can-drive-over-a-child-but-dont-drive-away-after/comment-page-1/#comment-53005</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter Jacobsen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In general, the way newspapers cover a traffic injury appalls. Typically, the incident is written in passive voice (e.g. toddler is fatally hit), the victim is blamed and the car is discussed and not the driver. The word &#039;accident&#039; excuses the perpetrator, diminishes the concerns of the victim&#039;s family, and perpetuates the myth of inevitability. 

How about a contest for the most egregious use of the word accident? 

Here&#039;s my nomination: In a LA Times story July 1st, a drunk driver speeds away after an earlier hit-and-run collision. He loses control of his SUV and runs over a family on the sidewalk. He leaves the scene of this collision too. He kills the two-year-old girl. Her parents and her brother are all hospitalized with broken bones. Her father remains in serious condition. The police charge the driver with murder. 

Yet the LA Times terms it an accident. 
http://www.latimes.com/news/local/traffic/la-me-rialto1-2008jul01,0,2668725.story</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In general, the way newspapers cover a traffic injury appalls. Typically, the incident is written in passive voice (e.g. toddler is fatally hit), the victim is blamed and the car is discussed and not the driver. The word 'accident' excuses the perpetrator, diminishes the concerns of the victim's family, and perpetuates the myth of inevitability. </p>
<p>How about a contest for the most egregious use of the word accident? </p>
<p>Here's my nomination: In a LA Times story July 1st, a drunk driver speeds away after an earlier hit-and-run collision. He loses control of his SUV and runs over a family on the sidewalk. He leaves the scene of this collision too. He kills the two-year-old girl. Her parents and her brother are all hospitalized with broken bones. Her father remains in serious condition. The police charge the driver with murder. </p>
<p>Yet the LA Times terms it an accident.<br />
<a href="http://www.latimes.com/news/local/traffic/la-me-rialto1-2008jul01,0,2668725.story" rel="nofollow">http://www.latimes.com/news/local/traffic/la-me-rialto1-2008jul01,0,2668725.story</a></p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, no the Daily News didn&#039;t say nothing &quot;illegal&quot; was done prior to leaving, they said nothing &quot;wrong&quot; was done. Big difference! And the really trippy part is where the cops suggest the crash became a non &quot;accident&quot; after it took place. (Temporal anomaly?) I don&#039;t subscribe to cops&#039; or streetsblog&#039;s or anybody else&#039;s overloading of the word accident: unless there was an immediate intent to crash, a car crash is also an accident. But accident is an imprecise euphemism that is best avoided to fully acknowledge the death and destruction inherent to popular automobile use. (Obviously!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, no the Daily News didn't say nothing "illegal" was done prior to leaving, they said nothing "wrong" was done. Big difference! And the really trippy part is where the cops suggest the crash became a non "accident" after it took place. (Temporal anomaly?) I don't subscribe to cops' or streetsblog's or anybody else's overloading of the word accident: unless there was an immediate intent to crash, a car crash is also an accident. But accident is an imprecise euphemism that is best avoided to fully acknowledge the death and destruction inherent to popular automobile use. (Obviously!)</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 22:06:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, the answer is that you&#039;re a smart guy, but the law is an ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the answer is that you're a smart guy, but the law is an ass.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 21:00:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That should say completely UNacceptable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That should say completely UNacceptable.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:58:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree, Mark, injuries and deaths from cars are completely acceptable. That&#039;s why I&#039;m reading this blog. The blog post however refers with considerable incredulity to the Daily News saying that nothing illegal was done prior to leaving the scene. I was looking for clarification on the legal issues here, not the moral ones.


Brent,

Reckless endangerment seems to be a crime that does not require you to actually harm or kill someone, just put them in danger of being harmed or killed. I am curious how often drivers who drive recklessly get convicted of this crime, and what standard of reckless the law requires for a conviction.

Would there realistically be a case against this hypothetical driver, or would he get off scot-free had he stayed with the child? It just seems like the Daily News is being realistic about the criminal ramifications of what the driver had done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree, Mark, injuries and deaths from cars are completely acceptable. That's why I'm reading this blog. The blog post however refers with considerable incredulity to the Daily News saying that nothing illegal was done prior to leaving the scene. I was looking for clarification on the legal issues here, not the moral ones.</p>
<p>Brent,</p>
<p>Reckless endangerment seems to be a crime that does not require you to actually harm or kill someone, just put them in danger of being harmed or killed. I am curious how often drivers who drive recklessly get convicted of this crime, and what standard of reckless the law requires for a conviction.</p>
<p>Would there realistically be a case against this hypothetical driver, or would he get off scot-free had he stayed with the child? It just seems like the Daily News is being realistic about the criminal ramifications of what the driver had done.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Walker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Walker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David, the intent of the individual driver is secondary to the overall impact of a transportation system dominated by private vehicles driven by non-professional drivers. Conventional wisdom has it that car killings and car maimings are collateral damage, regrettable but acceptable side effects of the supposedly greater good of cars and driving. What the story above suggests that that these killings and maimings are &lt;i&gt;not&lt;/i&gt; acceptable and that, rather than continue them, we should phase out private vehicles and their carnage in favor of conveyances that are less brutal, less bloody, less sociopathic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David, the intent of the individual driver is secondary to the overall impact of a transportation system dominated by private vehicles driven by non-professional drivers. Conventional wisdom has it that car killings and car maimings are collateral damage, regrettable but acceptable side effects of the supposedly greater good of cars and driving. What the story above suggests that that these killings and maimings are <i>not</i> acceptable and that, rather than continue them, we should phase out private vehicles and their carnage in favor of conveyances that are less brutal, less bloody, less sociopathic.</p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:35:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David- the crime is RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. “Reckless” conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm or know that his conduct is substantially certain to cause that result. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused’s conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others. 
Endangerment can range from a misdemeanor to a felony.
-wikipedia</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David- the crime is RECKLESS ENDANGERMENT: A person commits the crime of reckless endangerment if the person recklessly engages in conduct which creates a substantial risk of serious physical injury to another person. “Reckless” conduct is conduct that exhibits a culpable disregard of foreseeable consequences to others from the act or omission involved. The accused need not intentionally cause a resulting harm or know that his conduct is substantially certain to cause that result. The ultimate question is whether, under all the circumstances, the accused’s conduct was of that heedless nature that made it actually or imminently dangerous to the rights or safety of others.<br />
Endangerment can range from a misdemeanor to a felony.<br />
-wikipedia</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 20:04:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hypothetically, what crime(s) do you all think this guy should have been charged with if he got out of his car and stayed at the scene of the collision?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hypothetically, what crime(s) do you all think this guy should have been charged with if he got out of his car and stayed at the scene of the collision?</p>
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		<title>By: anonymouse</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymouse</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 19:06:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Note, by the way, that if you crash your car into another car and kill someone, that&#039;s manslaughter, but if you hit a pedestrian or a cyclist, that&#039;s an accident. Truly sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Note, by the way, that if you crash your car into another car and kill someone, that's manslaughter, but if you hit a pedestrian or a cyclist, that's an accident. Truly sick.</p>
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		<title>By: LN</title>
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		<dc:creator>LN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here&#039;s another child hit in the Bronx recently, he passed away on June 23rd.

http://www.yournabe.com/articles/2008/06/20/bronx/doc485be764169b6399685025.txt</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here's another child hit in the Bronx recently, he passed away on June 23rd.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.yournabe.com/articles/2008/06/20/bronx/doc485be764169b6399685025.txt" rel="nofollow">http://www.yournabe.com/articles/2008/06/20/bronx/doc485be764169b6399685025.txt</a></p>
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		<title>By: brent</title>
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		<dc:creator>brent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another fine example of a completely sick society. I mean WOW these cops are ignorant.</description>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
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		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:27:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m glad you made a full story item out of this.  I read it this morning and was totally disgusted.

Will the realization by more and more people that driving is moronically unsustainable change demographics enough so that the attitudes towards incidents like this by the public, police, and media finally change?

Until those attitudes change, dear grieving families:  &quot;whoopsies!!&quot;  ;-P  !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I'm glad you made a full story item out of this.  I read it this morning and was totally disgusted.</p>
<p>Will the realization by more and more people that driving is moronically unsustainable change demographics enough so that the attitudes towards incidents like this by the public, police, and media finally change?</p>
<p>Until those attitudes change, dear grieving families:  "whoopsies!!"  ;-P  !</p>
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