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	<title>Comments on: DOT Asks Public for Ideas on Shoupian Parking Program</title>
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		<title>By: Max Rockatansky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Rockatansky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill is the perfect example of why this will be hard to sell, no offense. As I understand it, the idea is to price the spots high enough so that there is never a shortage of space. This will mean raising the prices to the level of parking garages, to dissuade people from driving in the first place. We&#039;re not talking about prices going up by 25 cents, think more along the lines of $10-$15 dollars. There will be cries of elitism - if you think congestion pricing was a tough sell you ain&#039;t seen nothing yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill is the perfect example of why this will be hard to sell, no offense. As I understand it, the idea is to price the spots high enough so that there is never a shortage of space. This will mean raising the prices to the level of parking garages, to dissuade people from driving in the first place. We&#8217;re not talking about prices going up by 25 cents, think more along the lines of $10-$15 dollars. There will be cries of elitism &#8211; if you think congestion pricing was a tough sell you ain&#8217;t seen nothing yet.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 17:56:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bill - I don&#039;t think you understand the basic concept of this.  Please re-read.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bill &#8211; I don&#8217;t think you understand the basic concept of this.  Please re-read.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 14:38:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think this is a really poor excuse for generating more parking revenue. People are going to pay whatever the rate is at the meter. If it means paying $0.25 more, then so be it. 
In my opinion, this will only cause great confusion, more tickets for people who don&#039;t pay properly, and more accidents. More accidents? Let me explain:
My understanding of this technology is that people will be able to see on their cell phones/blackberry/etc. where there are free spots. Has anyone actually given this any thought? Do you want drivers looking at their phones/electronic devices to find parking spots, while driving? 
G-d forbid, but after a few casualties and accidents, maybe the brains behind the city will realize that this is a bad idea.
And one more point. The environmentalists who thought this up are very short-sighted. In the event that people do pull over to look for spots, do you think they&#039;ll switch off the car? Of course not! They&#039;ll leave it idling. I can&#039;t believe anyone thinks this is a good idea.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think this is a really poor excuse for generating more parking revenue. People are going to pay whatever the rate is at the meter. If it means paying $0.25 more, then so be it.<br />
In my opinion, this will only cause great confusion, more tickets for people who don&#8217;t pay properly, and more accidents. More accidents? Let me explain:<br />
My understanding of this technology is that people will be able to see on their cell phones/blackberry/etc. where there are free spots. Has anyone actually given this any thought? Do you want drivers looking at their phones/electronic devices to find parking spots, while driving?<br />
G-d forbid, but after a few casualties and accidents, maybe the brains behind the city will realize that this is a bad idea.<br />
And one more point. The environmentalists who thought this up are very short-sighted. In the event that people do pull over to look for spots, do you think they&#8217;ll switch off the car? Of course not! They&#8217;ll leave it idling. I can&#8217;t believe anyone thinks this is a good idea.</p>
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		<title>By: BicyclesOnly</title>
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		<dc:creator>BicyclesOnly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The most important thing is to convert spots from unmetered to metered.  The shift from &quot;free&quot; to &quot;not free&quot; is much bigger than any tweaking of rates (though I agree with market pricing of all metered spaces as well).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The most important thing is to convert spots from unmetered to metered.  The shift from &#8220;free&#8221; to &#8220;not free&#8221; is much bigger than any tweaking of rates (though I agree with market pricing of all metered spaces as well).</p>
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		<title>By: da</title>
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		<dc:creator>da</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait!  Won&#039;t this unfairly penalize low-income drivers?  Soon the only people who will be able to afford to park will be the rich!  And what about an Environmental Impact Statement?

;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait!  Won&#8217;t this unfairly penalize low-income drivers?  Soon the only people who will be able to afford to park will be the rich!  And what about an Environmental Impact Statement?</p>
<p>;^)</p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey Hymen</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeffrey Hymen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:53:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I propose that we give this idea a try in all five Community Boards 2.  (Okay, the Bronx, Queens and Staten Island can opt out if they want to.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I propose that we give this idea a try in all five Community Boards 2.  (Okay, the Bronx, Queens and Staten Island can opt out if they want to.)</p>
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		<title>By: Shemp</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shemp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:51:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully no one at the forum will use the term &quot;Shoupian&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully no one at the forum will use the term &#8220;Shoupian&#8221;</p>
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