Comments on: Shock and Outrage Over DWI Killer’s Two-Year Sentence http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 23 Nov 2009 17:37:03 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: gecko http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50760 gecko Fri, 23 May 2008 11:04:51 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50760 Road accidents cost New York State over $19 billion a year yet legislators will not vote for congestion pricing or cameras at NYC intersections. Road accidents cost New York State over $19 billion a year yet legislators will not vote for congestion pricing or cameras at NYC intersections.

]]> By: gecko http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50758 gecko Fri, 23 May 2008 10:34:39 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50758 Road accidents are “the largest cause of nonnatural death among U.S. citizens overseas,” said Betsy L. Anderson, a senior consular official at the State Department. Road crashes are a worldwide problem, and are expected to rise. “Each year 1.2 million people die in road accidents, and 20 to 50 million are injured and survive, often with disabilities for the rest of their lives,” said Dr. Etienne Krug, the director of the department of injuries and violence prevention at the World Health Organization. The figures are believed to be underreported. NYTimes, The Biggest Little-Noticed Hazard, by Tanya Mohn 4/17/2007 Road traffic injuries are the leading cause of death worldwide among young people aged 10-24 years. Each year nearly 400 000 people under 25 die on the world’s roads – on average more than 1000 a day. Most of these deaths occur in low- and middle-income countries and among vulnerable road users – pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists and those using public transport. http://www.who.int/features/factfiles/youth_roadsafety/en/index.html Road accidents are “the largest cause of nonnatural death among U.S. citizens overseas,” said Betsy L. Anderson, a senior consular official at the State Department.

Road crashes are a worldwide problem, and are expected to rise. “Each year 1.2 million people die in road accidents, and 20 to 50 million are injured and survive, often with disabilities for the rest of their lives,” said Dr. Etienne Krug, the director of the department of injuries and violence prevention at the World Health Organization. The figures are believed to be underreported.

NYTimes, The Biggest Little-Noticed Hazard, by Tanya Mohn 4/17/2007

Road traffic injuries are the leading cause of death worldwide among young people aged 10-24 years. Each year nearly 400 000 people under 25 die on the world’s roads – on average more than 1000 a day.

Most of these deaths occur in low- and middle-income countries and among vulnerable road users – pedestrians, cyclists, motorcyclists and those using public transport.

http://www.who.int/features/factfiles/youth_roadsafety/en/index.html

]]> By: gecko http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50757 gecko Fri, 23 May 2008 10:18:34 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50757 13. Aaron, Automobiles are the HIGHEST cause of death of people under 24 in the world. 13. Aaron, Automobiles are the HIGHEST cause of death of people under 24 in the world.

]]> By: Aaron http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50755 Aaron Fri, 23 May 2008 05:43:14 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50755 Automobiles are the HIGHEST cause of death in the United States http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlpn37NfZwY&NR=1 Automobiles are the HIGHEST cause of death in the United States
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlpn37NfZwY&NR=1

]]> By: Spud Spudly http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50720 Spud Spudly Thu, 22 May 2008 18:04:55 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50720 He PLED GUILTY! When you plead guilty you have to stipulate to the facts. It's not like there was a trial or disputed story. He was hammered, he was speeding, he hit a pedestrian (who was in a crosswalk) and he drove away while she died -- what else do you need to know????? He PLED GUILTY! When you plead guilty you have to stipulate to the facts. It's not like there was a trial or disputed story. He was hammered, he was speeding, he hit a pedestrian (who was in a crosswalk) and he drove away while she died -- what else do you need to know?????

]]> By: paulb http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50716 paulb Thu, 22 May 2008 17:11:58 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50716 I get the point about not rushing to judgment, but the guy ran away after killing someone and he didn't turn himself in, he had to be found. Two years (maximum) and then getting his life back does seem light, to me. I get the "paying your debt to society" argument right up to causing permanent serious injury or a death. Then the "debt" idea should get more personal. I get the point about not rushing to judgment, but the guy ran away after killing someone and he didn't turn himself in, he had to be found. Two years (maximum) and then getting his life back does seem light, to me. I get the "paying your debt to society" argument right up to causing permanent serious injury or a death. Then the "debt" idea should get more personal.

]]> By: Gizler http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50710 Gizler Thu, 22 May 2008 16:18:49 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50710 The only reason he got two years more than most motorized killers is because he was drunk and fled the scene. Otherwise he surely would have gotten off clean like everyone else. The only reason he got two years more than most motorized killers is because he was drunk and fled the scene. Otherwise he surely would have gotten off clean like everyone else.

]]> By: Vroomfondel http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50709 Vroomfondel Thu, 22 May 2008 16:12:15 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50709 I agree that the sentence is a bit disappointing, but let's keep in mind that he got two years more than most motorized killers. (By the way, what portion of those two years is he likely to serve?) The real question on my mind is whether he will ever drive again. My understanding is that there will be a separate DMV case and that the law specifies minimum license revocations, but no maximum. Does anyone have any idea for how long he will have his license revoked? I agree that the sentence is a bit disappointing, but let's keep in mind that he got two years more than most motorized killers. (By the way, what portion of those two years is he likely to serve?)

The real question on my mind is whether he will ever drive again. My understanding is that there will be a separate DMV case and that the law specifies minimum license revocations, but no maximum. Does anyone have any idea for how long he will have his license revoked?

]]> By: Sam Clifford http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50658 Sam Clifford Wed, 21 May 2008 23:20:21 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50658 Your legal BAC to drive over there is 0.08? That's insane! Across most of Australia it's 0.05 and we have a reputation as a nation of binge drinkers who are married to their cars. Your legal BAC to drive over there is 0.08? That's insane! Across most of Australia it's 0.05 and we have a reputation as a nation of binge drinkers who are married to their cars.

]]> By: LS http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50637 LS Wed, 21 May 2008 21:00:26 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50637 I lost my uncle to a drunk driver in the middle of the day. I know what its like. But sending the kid to jail for longer doesn't bring the girl back or stop another impaired person from making an impaired decision. Have him paint crosswalks every saturday for the next 30 years of his life or something. Make him install bollards. But don't put more people into the jail-industrial complex. We already have the most people in jail of any country this side of North Korea. I lost my uncle to a drunk driver in the middle of the day. I know what its like. But sending the kid to jail for longer doesn't bring the girl back or stop another impaired person from making an impaired decision. Have him paint crosswalks every saturday for the next 30 years of his life or something. Make him install bollards. But don't put more people into the jail-industrial complex. We already have the most people in jail of any country this side of North Korea.

]]> By: JF http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50633 JF Wed, 21 May 2008 20:43:40 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50633 George, we do know all the facts in the case: they were described in detail in the media and discussed thoroughly on this blog. Bhutia acted recklessly and showed depraved indifference to human life. But thanks for your eager willingness to find a way to blame the victim. George, we do know all the facts in the case: they were described in detail in the media and discussed thoroughly on this blog. Bhutia acted recklessly and showed depraved indifference to human life. But thanks for your eager willingness to find a way to blame the victim.

]]> By: Mark http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50631 Mark Wed, 21 May 2008 20:37:24 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50631 this is unbelievable!!! this is unbelievable!!!

]]> By: george http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50629 george Wed, 21 May 2008 20:25:11 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50629 we often rush to judgment without knowing all the facts in the case. was julia crossing the street at the crosswalk? did she have the right of way, or was she crossing on a red light? was she herself under the influence of alcohol or drugs? having the answers to these questions can better serve to give us an idea of who to blame for her death. get all the facts before labeling someone a cold-blooded killer who deserves to rot in prison. we often rush to judgment without knowing all the facts in the case. was julia crossing the street at the crosswalk? did she have the right of way, or was she crossing on a red light? was she herself under the influence of alcohol or drugs? having the answers to these questions can better serve to give us an idea of who to blame for her death.

get all the facts before labeling someone a cold-blooded killer who deserves to rot in prison.

]]> By: Mark Walker http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50606 Mark Walker Wed, 21 May 2008 17:53:41 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50606 The judge rendered his verdict, then drove home. The judge rendered his verdict, then drove home.

]]> By: ben http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50603 ben Wed, 21 May 2008 17:34:05 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50603 outrageous, but typical and not surprising. outrageous, but typical and not surprising.

]]> By: Konrad http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/comment-page-1/#comment-50601 Konrad Wed, 21 May 2008 17:19:52 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/21/shock-and-outrage-over-dwi-killers-two-year-sentence/#comment-50601 outrageous. outrageous.

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