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	<title>Comments on: Beam Me Across the Street, Scotty</title>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-51173</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 May 2008 11:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>25. Alfred Louro, Supposedly you can contact designer at http://www.leehanyoung.com/.

You can also check holographic and volumetric displays on Wikipedia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>25. Alfred Louro, Supposedly you can contact designer at <a href="http://www.leehanyoung.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.leehanyoung.com/</a>.</p>
<p>You can also check holographic and volumetric displays on Wikipedia.</p>
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		<title>By: Alfredo Louro</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-51161</link>
		<dc:creator>Alfredo Louro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 23:15:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excuse, but what is a laser plasma beam? And how is it visible from the side?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excuse, but what is a laser plasma beam? And how is it visible from the side?</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-51160</link>
		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yip-aye-aye.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yip-aye-aye.</p>
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		<title>By: SenatorIvy</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-51133</link>
		<dc:creator>SenatorIvy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 May 2008 19:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like Transmetropolitan.</description>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-50837</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 17:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ira,  
Caution, any sufficiently technologically advanced group of people suddenly exposed to a group lacking such advancements may appear as gods.

Regarding the seemingly futuristic red 2D-laser display of people crossing at a crosswalk, it&#039;s pretty easy to say something is impossible if you do not have immediate experience on how a proposed idea might work. 

Your mission – if you should decide to take it -- is to do a little research to determine how this might work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ira,<br />
Caution, any sufficiently technologically advanced group of people suddenly exposed to a group lacking such advancements may appear as gods.</p>
<p>Regarding the seemingly futuristic red 2D-laser display of people crossing at a crosswalk, it's pretty easy to say something is impossible if you do not have immediate experience on how a proposed idea might work. </p>
<p>Your mission – if you should decide to take it -- is to do a little research to determine how this might work.</p>
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		<title>By: Ira</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-50832</link>
		<dc:creator>Ira</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:51:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All fine and dandy, great design, but there&#039;s no physical way of actually making something like that happen, pictures in the middle of the air, by laser or any other means. this is fiction, not a technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All fine and dandy, great design, but there's no physical way of actually making something like that happen, pictures in the middle of the air, by laser or any other means. this is fiction, not a technology.</p>
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		<title>By: epc</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-50060</link>
		<dc:creator>epc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:27:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to the initial topic: I thought of a way to actually get the city interested in this: display advertising on the virtual barriers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to the initial topic: I thought of a way to actually get the city interested in this: display advertising on the virtual barriers.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49999</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 22:43:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A lot of those cars are transporting multiple people while bikes rarely do.&quot;

Sure, that would have to be part of the calculation but unfortunately I don&#039;t think our carpooling rate is high enough to redeem personal cars in a comparison that breaks things out by busses, comercial vehicles, personal cars, and cyclists. Honestly. The emphasis on bad bikers, the endless anecdotes (thanks for providing another!) is a grim joke. Talk to me when the auto-to-ped kill rate is below 100 a year for this city. If we can keep up the decline of the past few years, that isn&#039;t too far off.

p.s. You know I&#039;m not a &quot;you thoughtful biker&quot; ! I&#039;m a thoughtful pedestrian, thank you very much, who doesn&#039;t see much point in a stereotype-inflamed &quot;mode war&quot; among those of us who do very little of the killing and very much of the dying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>"A lot of those cars are transporting multiple people while bikes rarely do."</p>
<p>Sure, that would have to be part of the calculation but unfortunately I don't think our carpooling rate is high enough to redeem personal cars in a comparison that breaks things out by busses, comercial vehicles, personal cars, and cyclists. Honestly. The emphasis on bad bikers, the endless anecdotes (thanks for providing another!) is a grim joke. Talk to me when the auto-to-ped kill rate is below 100 a year for this city. If we can keep up the decline of the past few years, that isn't too far off.</p>
<p>p.s. You know I'm not a "you thoughtful biker" ! I'm a thoughtful pedestrian, thank you very much, who doesn't see much point in a stereotype-inflamed "mode war" among those of us who do very little of the killing and very much of the dying.</p>
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		<title>By: Spud Spudly</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49983</link>
		<dc:creator>Spud Spudly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wonder in person-miles-traveled how the pedestrian death ratio works out between bikes and cars/trucks.  A lot of those cars are transporting multiple people while bikes rarely do.  

A lot of bicyclists -- who require no license, no registration, no insurance and no demonstration of minimum qualifications -- have a lot of room for improvement, and you thoughtful bikers would be well served if they did.  Just yesterday I saw a biker going west on 92nd or 93rd street (some cross street with a clearly marked and unobstructed bike lane) non-chalantly coasting down the center of the street glancing back over his shoulder at a car that was following slowly behind him.  Then the light turned red and the biker went through it and made a right without even slowing down.  The car of course stopped.  I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if that driver thinks twice before yielding to the next bike he comes across.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wonder in person-miles-traveled how the pedestrian death ratio works out between bikes and cars/trucks.  A lot of those cars are transporting multiple people while bikes rarely do.  </p>
<p>A lot of bicyclists -- who require no license, no registration, no insurance and no demonstration of minimum qualifications -- have a lot of room for improvement, and you thoughtful bikers would be well served if they did.  Just yesterday I saw a biker going west on 92nd or 93rd street (some cross street with a clearly marked and unobstructed bike lane) non-chalantly coasting down the center of the street glancing back over his shoulder at a car that was following slowly behind him.  Then the light turned red and the biker went through it and made a right without even slowing down.  The car of course stopped.  I wouldn't be surprised if that driver thinks twice before yielding to the next bike he comes across.</p>
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		<title>By: Doc Barnett</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49982</link>
		<dc:creator>Doc Barnett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 19:09:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You do have bad luck epc, or maybe it&#039;s the neighborhood you live or work in. (I think midtown is where things get really nasty?) I&#039;ve never been hit by a bike, and have been startled (and momentarily pissed off) only twice in seven years here.

As far as attitudes go, they can be bad all around but the fact is that attitudes and carelessness ARE a lot less dangerous on a bicycle or in shoes than in 3,000 lbs of metal. There&#039;s not much reason to look beyond Newtonian physics for an explanation of the disparity in death rates, but if anyone has solid VMT numbers for bikes vs. autos it would be easy to factor that out. (Given the distances delivery people cover on bikes, largely invisibly, I wonder how great the VMT difference would be?) What surprises me is that we do average almost one pedestrian death a year from bicycles. It&#039;s definitely something to look at after dealing with the 150x higher death rate from autos.

Please don&#039;t drive more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You do have bad luck epc, or maybe it's the neighborhood you live or work in. (I think midtown is where things get really nasty?) I've never been hit by a bike, and have been startled (and momentarily pissed off) only twice in seven years here.</p>
<p>As far as attitudes go, they can be bad all around but the fact is that attitudes and carelessness ARE a lot less dangerous on a bicycle or in shoes than in 3,000 lbs of metal. There's not much reason to look beyond Newtonian physics for an explanation of the disparity in death rates, but if anyone has solid VMT numbers for bikes vs. autos it would be easy to factor that out. (Given the distances delivery people cover on bikes, largely invisibly, I wonder how great the VMT difference would be?) What surprises me is that we do average almost one pedestrian death a year from bicycles. It's definitely something to look at after dealing with the 150x higher death rate from autos.</p>
<p>Please don't drive more.</p>
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		<title>By: Cap'n Transit</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49973</link>
		<dc:creator>Cap'n Transit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shifting people from cars to bicycles (or even from transit to bicycles) is not going to make them stop being assholes.  You want to reduce the number of assholes in the world, become a social worker.  This is all about reducing the damage that assholes can do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shifting people from cars to bicycles (or even from transit to bicycles) is not going to make them stop being assholes.  You want to reduce the number of assholes in the world, become a social worker.  This is all about reducing the damage that assholes can do.</p>
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		<title>By: epc</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49971</link>
		<dc:creator>epc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:44:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And yes, that seems to be the same pace I was on last year.

Maybe I should drive more, walk less.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And yes, that seems to be the same pace I was on last year.</p>
<p>Maybe I should drive more, walk less.</p>
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		<title>By: epc</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49969</link>
		<dc:creator>epc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 17:41:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must have extraordinary bad luck with cyclists because I&#039;ve been hit or clipped three times this year (last week: cyclist hits me from behind and knocks my dog over while we&#039;re walking on the sidewalk).

Cycling is only going to increase in the city, I hope.  But as a pedestrian (and ex-cyclist: Bus, Pittsburgh, 1990), I&#039;d ask, beg, plead, warn, scream that the cyclists here need to drop the holier-than-thou attitude and be more mindful of pedestrians, you need them (us) on your side.  Yes, more pedestrians are killed by vehicles in the city than by cyclists.  Could it possibly be related to there being more vehicles than bikes in the city?  

Riding a bike doesn&#039;t make the behavior any less anti-social or more careful than the same behavior in a car, truck or bus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must have extraordinary bad luck with cyclists because I've been hit or clipped three times this year (last week: cyclist hits me from behind and knocks my dog over while we're walking on the sidewalk).</p>
<p>Cycling is only going to increase in the city, I hope.  But as a pedestrian (and ex-cyclist: Bus, Pittsburgh, 1990), I'd ask, beg, plead, warn, scream that the cyclists here need to drop the holier-than-thou attitude and be more mindful of pedestrians, you need them (us) on your side.  Yes, more pedestrians are killed by vehicles in the city than by cyclists.  Could it possibly be related to there being more vehicles than bikes in the city?  </p>
<p>Riding a bike doesn't make the behavior any less anti-social or more careful than the same behavior in a car, truck or bus.</p>
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		<title>By: ddartley</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49946</link>
		<dc:creator>ddartley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dave @9,
Do cyclists who use a car lane instead of a dangerous little bike lane really &quot;block&quot; traffic?  Or do they more often go as fast as or faster than the cars around them?  The latter is certainly my experience.  

Please don&#039;t complain about cyclists spurning crummy little bike lanes.  Respectable bike lanes, maybe, but not those dinky meaningless white lines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dave @9,<br />
Do cyclists who use a car lane instead of a dangerous little bike lane really "block" traffic?  Or do they more often go as fast as or faster than the cars around them?  The latter is certainly my experience.  </p>
<p>Please don't complain about cyclists spurning crummy little bike lanes.  Respectable bike lanes, maybe, but not those dinky meaningless white lines.</p>
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		<title>By: Christopher Crowe</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49945</link>
		<dc:creator>Christopher Crowe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 05:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love the idea in concept but I have two reservations: 1) Aren&#039;t lasers really bad for the eyes? 2) How much does one of these things cost? If those issues can be addressed, I say put these things up tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love the idea in concept but I have two reservations: 1) Aren't lasers really bad for the eyes? 2) How much does one of these things cost? If those issues can be addressed, I say put these things up tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49936</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 20:03:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#9 Dave, There&#039;s no excuse for the bad actions of the cyclists you describe but, safety on the streets is skewed way against pedestrians and cyclists and is totally unfair since the streets are public spaces.  Cyclists have to ride in the streets by law but have the same physical protections as pedestrians which is virtually nothing.

A pedestrian is something like 2.5 times more likely to be killed by a car than someone in a car.  Car and truck accidents kill something like 300 people a year in this city.  The numbers are so low for deaths caused bicycles that they are meaningless but, the last I heard it was about one-third of a person per year or 1 person every three years.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#9 Dave, There's no excuse for the bad actions of the cyclists you describe but, safety on the streets is skewed way against pedestrians and cyclists and is totally unfair since the streets are public spaces.  Cyclists have to ride in the streets by law but have the same physical protections as pedestrians which is virtually nothing.</p>
<p>A pedestrian is something like 2.5 times more likely to be killed by a car than someone in a car.  Car and truck accidents kill something like 300 people a year in this city.  The numbers are so low for deaths caused bicycles that they are meaningless but, the last I heard it was about one-third of a person per year or 1 person every three years.</p>
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		<title>By: gecko</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49934</link>
		<dc:creator>gecko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 19:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be even better if the plasma beams created force fields protecting pedestrians and cyclists.

In any case, urban compatible vehicles should have acceleration and speed governors especially, so that they can&#039;t speed up to make lights.  Adding intelligence to these governors in areas where there are a lot of people could provide even more limiting and even provide awareness-raising alarms to drivers.

Of course, it would be better not to have cars and trucks in these areas at all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be even better if the plasma beams created force fields protecting pedestrians and cyclists.</p>
<p>In any case, urban compatible vehicles should have acceleration and speed governors especially, so that they can't speed up to make lights.  Adding intelligence to these governors in areas where there are a lot of people could provide even more limiting and even provide awareness-raising alarms to drivers.</p>
<p>Of course, it would be better not to have cars and trucks in these areas at all.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 01:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have no problem with a biker going through an empty intersection but in my neighborhood that is never the case and what about:

- the biker who is going the wrong way on a cross-street and yells at me for crossing the street in front of them
- the biker on a bike-laned street not using the bike lane but blocking traffic by using a traffic lane
- the biker racing through a pedestrian corsswalk (against traffic) yelling at the pedestrians to &quot;get the f*** out of my way)

I hate to say that my impression (living on a bike-laned street in the village) is that a higher percentage of bikers break the rules of the road than drivers.

Bikers flame away but a lot of street space is being given to you and you still don&#039;t play by the rules.  Explain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have no problem with a biker going through an empty intersection but in my neighborhood that is never the case and what about:</p>
<p>- the biker who is going the wrong way on a cross-street and yells at me for crossing the street in front of them<br />
- the biker on a bike-laned street not using the bike lane but blocking traffic by using a traffic lane<br />
- the biker racing through a pedestrian corsswalk (against traffic) yelling at the pedestrians to "get the f*** out of my way)</p>
<p>I hate to say that my impression (living on a bike-laned street in the village) is that a higher percentage of bikers break the rules of the road than drivers.</p>
<p>Bikers flame away but a lot of street space is being given to you and you still don't play by the rules.  Explain.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 22:38:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>epc, I&#039;m  New Yorker.  If I&#039;m walking and encounter a red light and no car is coming, I cross the street.  If I&#039;m on my bike and no car is coming &lt;i&gt;and&lt;/i&gt;no pedestrians are crossing, I&#039;ll roll through the light.  I&#039;ve never come close to hitting anyone on my bike, and I don&#039;t plan on ending that streak.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>epc, I'm  New Yorker.  If I'm walking and encounter a red light and no car is coming, I cross the street.  If I'm on my bike and no car is coming <i>and</i>no pedestrians are crossing, I'll roll through the light.  I've never come close to hitting anyone on my bike, and I don't plan on ending that streak.</p>
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		<title>By: vnm</title>
		<link>http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/05/09/beam-me-across-the-street-scotty/comment-page-1/#comment-49917</link>
		<dc:creator>vnm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 21:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love it!!

Cars need to be penned in like that because every time they are stopped at a red light, they unthinkingly creep forward into the crosswalk. 

A slight easing of the break pedal leads to great annoyance for others, but they don&#039;t care.

Build these things!!!</description>
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<p>Cars need to be penned in like that because every time they are stopped at a red light, they unthinkingly creep forward into the crosswalk. </p>
<p>A slight easing of the break pedal leads to great annoyance for others, but they don't care.</p>
<p>Build these things!!!</p>
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