Comments on: Streetfilm: The Transformation of Meat Market Plaza http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Fri, 04 Jul 2008 22:23:28 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: roland http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49179 roland Mon, 28 Apr 2008 14:39:06 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49179 Over the weekend the city put down rubber "bathmat" traffic lines on the "Plaza" over the cobble stone. It makes it more car centric than it was before. And the pedestrian areas like islands in the sea. Gansevoort plaza now looks crowded. And what's up with calling it Plaza? We libe in NY and we have Squares...Times, Sheridan, Madison? Hello? Is anything really putting any thought into this? Over the weekend the city put down rubber "bathmat" traffic lines on the "Plaza" over the cobble stone. It makes it more car centric than it was before. And the pedestrian areas like islands in the sea. Gansevoort plaza now looks crowded.

And what's up with calling it Plaza? We libe in NY and we have Squares...Times, Sheridan, Madison? Hello? Is anything really putting any thought into this?

]]> By: Ethan http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49174 Ethan Mon, 28 Apr 2008 13:28:28 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49174 Short and sweet! Nice film, even if all of Manhattan hasn't yet been pedestrianized ;) Short and sweet! Nice film, even if all of Manhattan hasn't yet been pedestrianized ;)

]]> By: Clarence http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49170 Clarence Mon, 28 Apr 2008 05:05:09 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49170 Stacy, I have eaten a lunchtime meal sitting off a curb and once crosslegged on a sidewalk, and I know from my daily travels I am not the only one. So I'd definitely eat just about anywhere I could find a reasonable chair. Also think about many sidewalk cafes aren't that far from speeding traffic. And at least when cars get to Meat Packing Plaza they are going much slower than they used to. Emoticons: wow I guess they must also work on Streetfilms! I should have known that. :) Look at that! Stacy,

I have eaten a lunchtime meal sitting off a curb and once crosslegged on a sidewalk, and I know from my daily travels I am not the only one. So I'd definitely eat just about anywhere I could find a reasonable chair.

Also think about many sidewalk cafes aren't that far from speeding traffic. And at least when cars get to Meat Packing Plaza they are going much slower than they used to.

Emoticons: wow I guess they must also work on Streetfilms! I should have known that. :) Look at that!

]]> By: Stacy http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49169 Stacy Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:07:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49169 I had no idea Streetsblog had emoticons enabled. I'd better watch my use of parentheses and colons! I had no idea Streetsblog had emoticons enabled. I'd better watch my use of parentheses and colons!

]]> By: Stacy http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49168 Stacy Mon, 28 Apr 2008 04:03:24 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49168 Clarence, I've seen what people will do for a seat on the subway. I guess the same applies to any semi-comfortable looking surface in public space :-) Clarence,

I've seen what people will do for a seat on the subway. I guess the same applies to any semi-comfortable looking surface in public space :-)

]]> By: Clarence http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49167 Clarence Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:57:46 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49167 Stacy, Funny, that is what people said before it went in but here it is in full use. I have been by there almost every day the past week, it is difficult to even find a chair! People in NYC love public space, and they need lots more. Stacy,

Funny, that is what people said before it went in but here it is in full use. I have been by there almost every day the past week, it is difficult to even find a chair!

People in NYC love public space, and they need lots more.

]]> By: Stacy http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49166 Stacy Mon, 28 Apr 2008 02:34:31 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49166 As much as it may help calm traffic I can't help but wonder who would ever want to sit out in the middle of all that traffic. As much as it may help calm traffic I can't help but wonder who would ever want to sit out in the middle of all that traffic.

]]> By: so chic darling http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49156 so chic darling Sat, 26 Apr 2008 23:29:52 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49156 It's the PLASTIC flower pots that are driving me crazy,couldn't they have got something a little better? It's the PLASTIC flower pots that are driving me crazy,couldn't they have got something a little better?

]]> By: Drew http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49153 Drew Sat, 26 Apr 2008 19:04:58 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49153 Seconded-- more important than the plaza itself is the change in priorities that it demonstrates. The city will slowly awaken to the possibilities of its public places as they are transformed one by one. Seconded-- more important than the plaza itself is the change in priorities that it demonstrates. The city will slowly awaken to the possibilities of its public places as they are transformed one by one.

]]> By: Lars http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49148 Lars Sat, 26 Apr 2008 06:29:10 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49148 Dave, Geeez, chill out!! Things happen in steps. This is but one first step of many to come... I guess you would rather have it the way it was before? You are wrong, It is a success. Don't worry, give NYC 10 years maybe it will look like some of those other cities, but remember those didn't happen overnight either...incrementalism.... Dave,

Geeez, chill out!! Things happen in steps. This is but one first step of many to come...

I guess you would rather have it the way it was before? You are wrong, It is a success.

Don't worry, give NYC 10 years maybe it will look like some of those other cities, but remember those didn't happen overnight either...incrementalism....

]]> By: Dave http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49144 Dave Sat, 26 Apr 2008 03:51:14 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/streetfilm-the-transformation-of-meat-market-plaza/#comment-49144 We are supposedly the "Capital of the World" and this half-baked measure is the best we can do? Pathetic. Trees that will die soon, overbaked flowers and a few miserable seats inbetween gridlocked traffic? Have we become so beholden to the NIMBY CB's and to the political process in NYC that we hold this up as a success? Look to London, Oslo, Paris and other worldwide capitals that have made major strides to taking back the streets. Have we become so accustomed to the lies of Brodsky and the non-actions of politicians like the pathetic Glick that we have to hail this as a success? We deserve more as citizens of what should be the greatest city on earth, but which is far from it at this point. God save us all. We are supposedly the "Capital of the World" and this half-baked measure is the best we can do? Pathetic. Trees that will die soon, overbaked flowers and a few miserable seats inbetween gridlocked traffic?

Have we become so beholden to the NIMBY CB's and to the political process in NYC that we hold this up as a success? Look to London, Oslo, Paris and other worldwide capitals that have made major strides to taking back the streets.

Have we become so accustomed to the lies of Brodsky and the non-actions of politicians like the pathetic Glick that we have to hail this as a success?

We deserve more as citizens of what should be the greatest city on earth, but which is far from it at this point. God save us all.

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