Comments on: COMMUTE’s BRT Plan: A Denser Network and Interborough Lines http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/ Covering the New York City Streets Renaissance Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:05:51 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8 hourly 1 By: harold http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49234 harold Tue, 29 Apr 2008 03:01:04 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49234 This is ok as far as it goes but there are no routes from Brooklyn to Queens or from, say, Bay Ridge to Brooklyn College!! How can this be?? People desperately need transportation within the outer boroughs. This is ok as far as it goes but there are no routes from Brooklyn to Queens or from, say, Bay Ridge to Brooklyn College!! How can this be?? People desperately need transportation within the outer boroughs.

]]> By: uSkyscraper http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49196 uSkyscraper Mon, 28 Apr 2008 17:29:41 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49196 More doors are as critical as the route itself -- make sure to use 3 doors on regular buses and four sets of doors on articulated buses. More doors are as critical as the route itself -- make sure to use 3 doors on regular buses and four sets of doors on articulated buses.

]]> By: Cap'n Transit http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49171 Cap'n Transit Mon, 28 Apr 2008 06:01:38 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49171 This BRT plan is a good effort, but there are some difficulties with it. It took me a while to pin down exactly what those were. I hope they can work them out. http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/04/brt-bait-and-switch-commute-plan.html This BRT plan is a good effort, but there are some difficulties with it. It took me a while to pin down exactly what those were. I hope they can work them out.

http://capntransit.blogspot.com/2008/04/brt-bait-and-switch-commute-plan.html

]]> By: Niccolo Machiavelli http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49132 Niccolo Machiavelli Fri, 25 Apr 2008 23:56:05 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49132 As long as we are drawing lines on the map why not draw the Flatbush Ave. line across the Marine Parkway Bridge into the Rockaways? Or is Kings Plaza close enough? Three lines on the Commute map through Lew Fidler district. Looks like he gets his cake and eats it too. As long as we are drawing lines on the map why not draw the Flatbush Ave. line across the Marine Parkway Bridge into the Rockaways? Or is Kings Plaza close enough?

Three lines on the Commute map through Lew Fidler district. Looks like he gets his cake and eats it too.

]]> By: JK http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49128 JK Fri, 25 Apr 2008 22:47:31 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49128 Wouldn't it be cool to take revenue from bus lane enforcement cameras and use it to subsidize BRT or other bus operations? Total parking tickets are around $580 mil a year. So bus cams would eventually pull at least $50 million annually. Nah, this is New York. That would never work. Wouldn't it be cool to take revenue from bus lane enforcement cameras and use it to subsidize BRT or other bus operations? Total parking tickets are around $580 mil a year. So bus cams would eventually pull at least $50 million annually. Nah, this is New York. That would never work.

]]> By: Josh http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49120 Josh Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:33:38 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49120 I'm starting to think that "Larry Littlefield" isn't actually a human being but rather a computer that's programmed to repeat the same messages in response to recognized keywords. I'm starting to think that "Larry Littlefield" isn't actually a human being but rather a computer that's programmed to repeat the same messages in response to recognized keywords.

]]> By: Glenn http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49118 Glenn Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:19:52 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49118 Taylor - Don't forget that BRT can service the elderly and disabled much better than the elevated lines that are up a lot of stairs. But 31st Steet is probably not the ideal place. How about Crescent St. It is basically a two lane highway with a straight entry onto the bridge. Making the M60 a BRT is a no-brainer. It would make using mass transit to LGA much more feasible. Taylor - Don't forget that BRT can service the elderly and disabled much better than the elevated lines that are up a lot of stairs.

But 31st Steet is probably not the ideal place. How about Crescent St. It is basically a two lane highway with a straight entry onto the bridge.

Making the M60 a BRT is a no-brainer. It would make using mass transit to LGA much more feasible.

]]> By: Larry Littlefield http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49115 Larry Littlefield Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:27:53 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49115 The capital costs may be small, but the operating costs would be huge -- and offset by cuts in transit or fare increases elsewhere. All in all, I prefer bicycles, which are cheaper. That's our public service future -- bicycles, home schooling, folk remedies for illness -- and high taxes. The capital costs may be small, but the operating costs would be huge -- and offset by cuts in transit or fare increases elsewhere.

All in all, I prefer bicycles, which are cheaper. That's our public service future -- bicycles, home schooling, folk remedies for illness -- and high taxes.

]]> By: Josh http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49113 Josh Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:22:43 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49113 Those lines from Marine Park, Flatlands and Sheepshead Bay could be quite a boon to areas that are currently underserved by transit. Those lines from Marine Park, Flatlands and Sheepshead Bay could be quite a boon to areas that are currently underserved by transit.

]]> By: taylor http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49112 taylor Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:20:22 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49112 the line through astoria seems a bit redundant with the NW directly overhead, and it will be more than a bit difficult to dedicate 2 lanes to buses on 2-lane neighborhood like those in astoria. BRT would work on northern or queens blvd, but not so much on 31st street or broadway in astoria. but BRT lanes from the triborough through the astoria blvd station and on to LGA would be wonderful, as the current M60 sitution is pretty much useless. the line through astoria seems a bit redundant with the NW directly overhead, and it will be more than a bit difficult to dedicate 2 lanes to buses on 2-lane neighborhood like those in astoria. BRT would work on northern or queens blvd, but not so much on 31st street or broadway in astoria. but BRT lanes from the triborough through the astoria blvd station and on to LGA would be wonderful, as the current M60 sitution is pretty much useless.

]]> By: taylor http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/comment-page-1/#comment-49108 taylor Fri, 25 Apr 2008 19:15:08 +0000 http://www.streetsblog.org/2008/04/25/commutes-brt-plan-a-denser-network-and-interborough-lines/#comment-49108 the line through astoria seems a bit redundant with the NW directly overhead, and it's pretty hard to dedicated 2 lanes to buses and build loading platforms on 2-lane neighborhood roads. but BRT lanes from the Astoria Blvd station to LGA would be wonderful. the current M60 situation is pretty terrible. the line through astoria seems a bit redundant with the NW directly overhead, and it's pretty hard to dedicated 2 lanes to buses and build loading platforms on 2-lane neighborhood roads. but BRT lanes from the Astoria Blvd station to LGA would be wonderful. the current M60 situation is pretty terrible.

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